BKR. Vaccine Hesitant

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LordEd wrote: Nov 25th, 2021, 12:25 pm
AtlantisKelowna wrote: Nov 25th, 2021, 12:20 pm

So your assumption that they are unemployed is based on what? You're assuming that I only associate with those who share my beliefs?

The fact that you are humoured by people losing their careers just goes to show what kind of person you truly are. If you cant have a civil conversation then, please stop responding.
I don't have civil conversations with those who support attacking veterans on remembrance day.

A doctor who doesn't believe in medicine has as much place in the field as a janitor who doesn't believe in cleaning supplies.
Coming from a family of veterans you should mind your tongue pal! I do not support the handful of people who disgraced that day so go *bleep* yourself you little scum bag!
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AtlantisKelowna wrote: Nov 25th, 2021, 1:24 pm Coming from a family of veterans you should mind your tongue pal! I do not support the handful of people who disgraced that day so go *bleep* yourself you little scum bag!
You seem to have no problem supporting their cause or blindly following their teachings.

You can find that 'handful' at the park every weekend. Go cheer them on.
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LordEd wrote: Nov 25th, 2021, 1:33 pm
AtlantisKelowna wrote: Nov 25th, 2021, 1:24 pm Coming from a family of veterans you should mind your tongue pal! I do not support the handful of people who disgraced that day so go *bleep* yourself you little scum bag!
You seem to have no problem supporting their cause or blindly following their teachings.

You can find that 'handful' at the park every weekend. Go cheer them on.
You know absolutely nothing about my beliefs or what I support. All your accusations are unfounded and unsupported based strictly on assumptions. Go ahead and say what you will, you are just a troll hiding behind a keyboard. Go find someone else to play your childish games with.
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AtlantisKelowna wrote: Nov 25th, 2021, 2:16 pm
LordEd wrote: Nov 25th, 2021, 1:33 pm You seem to have no problem supporting their cause or blindly following their teachings.

You can find that 'handful' at the park every weekend. Go cheer them on.
You know absolutely nothing about my beliefs or what I support. All your accusations are unfounded and unsupported based strictly on assumptions. Go ahead and say what you will, you are just a troll hiding behind a keyboard. Go find someone else to play your childish games with.
Don't waste your time with Ed the loser. He does nothing except attack anyone who doesn't follow his beliefs. He likes to call everyone on this board a racist without justification.

He's a keyboard tough guy. Wouldn't say a thing to anyones face. We know the type!
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AtlantisKelowna wrote: Nov 25th, 2021, 2:16 pm You know absolutely nothing about my beliefs or what I support.
You assume anybody accepting a pro-vax position is a mindless sheep following a narrative. You have posts with the word narrative in it 41 times in fact.

So how is that any different that me assume that you're a brainwashed conspiracy racist? Enough of them are around to make a clear link between conspiracy and racism.
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Zedi wrote: Nov 25th, 2021, 2:20 pm
AtlantisKelowna wrote: Nov 25th, 2021, 2:16 pm

You know absolutely nothing about my beliefs or what I support. All your accusations are unfounded and unsupported based strictly on assumptions. Go ahead and say what you will, you are just a troll hiding behind a keyboard. Go find someone else to play your childish games with.
Don't waste your time with Ed the loser. He does nothing except attack anyone who doesn't follow his beliefs. He likes to call everyone on this board a racist without justification.

He's a keyboard tough guy. Wouldn't say a thing to anyones face. We know the type!
I've had many debates here with various posters and have yet to add anyone to my foe list. This putz is the first and hopefully the last that will end up there.

Generally, I take everything with a grain of salt but his finding humour in people losing lively hoods and accusations of support in those who disgraced the Remembrance Day ceremonies was enough to put me over the edge. My family fought and died so even pieces of :cuss: like him could enjoy the freedom he disgraces.

Im starting to think ED isn't his name and is a condition that makes him so angry.
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LordEd wrote: Nov 25th, 2021, 2:28 pm
AtlantisKelowna wrote: Nov 25th, 2021, 2:16 pm You know absolutely nothing about my beliefs or what I support.
You assume anybody accepting a pro-vax position is a mindless sheep following a narrative. You have posts with the word narrative in it 41 times in fact.

So how is that any different that me assume that you're a brainwashed conspiracy racist? Enough of them are around to make a clear link between conspiracy and racism.
No, actually I do not. I know many people who are vaccinated and guess what? I don't give a :cuss: *bleep* if they are or not unless they start pushing their beliefs on me.

The narrative is a word that best describes a connected event such as covid, restrictions and mandates all in one. That does not mean I assume anything. That's you once again making assumptions.

Race and conspiracy may go together in some cases but in regard to the pandemic, you are out to lunch. Please prove your link between them or are you just about unfounded claims and not proving your accusations?

I better tell my indigenous wife that I'm a racist tonight, hopefully, my half-indigenous children will understand. I guess the 1/8 indigenous blood in my body didn't recognize it either. Shameful
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AtlantisKelowna wrote: Nov 25th, 2021, 2:53 pm Race and conspiracy may go together in some cases but in regard to the pandemic, you are out to lunch. Please prove your link between them or are you just about unfounded claims and not proving your accusations?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Sky
Christopher Saccoccia, also identified by the pseudonym Chris Sky, is a Canadian conspiracy theorist known for his involvement in the anti-mask, anti-lockdown, COVID-19 denial and anti-vaccine movements during the COVID-19 pandemic.[1] Saccoccia faces a number of legal issues and criminal charges including for allegations of uttering death threats against Ontario Premier Doug Ford and other public figures and for assault of a police officer, among others.[2]
According to screenshots posted in a piece on Saccoccia by the Canadian Anti-Hate Network, he has engaged online in rhetoric regarding holocaust denial and anti-semitism, anti-black racism, Islamophobia, homophobia and transphobia.[40]
https://www.pentictonherald.ca/news/art ... 4253b.html
Penticton's top anti-masker has ties to white supremacy
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion ... threat-to/
The principal actors of the anti-lockdown movement have either been or rubbed elbows with some significant haters on the scene. Vancouver neo-Nazi Brian Ruhe, who at one point organized a mock book burning, was involved in its earliest iteration. Quebec’s far-right conspiracy streamer Alexis Cossette-Trudel, a big name among France’s QAnon following, is an important mouthpiece of the francophone anti-lockdown movement. Neo-Nazi Paul Fromm is a fixture at rallies in both Ontario and in Kelowna, B.C. Antimask activist Chris Saccoccia’s social-media feeds feature Holocaust denial and racist posts.
Perhaps one of Canada’s most persistent agitators is Kevin Johnston, who made national headlines in 2017 when he was charged with the willful promotion of hatred against Muslims. In 2019, he lost a $2.5-million judgment for his role in racially motivated defamation against Toronto philanthropist Mohamad Fakih in which he repeatedly accused him of being a terrorist; the judge called his comments about Mr. Fakih “hate speech at its worst.” Now, Mr. Johnston is running for mayor of Calgary and has shifted gears by portraying himself as an anti-lockdown and antimask influencer.
https://*bleep*.ca/newsitem/the-politic ... ts/it84431
When a COVID-19 conspiracy theorist protester began hurling racist remarks at a Sikh security guard this week, many people across the country were shocked, but it shouldn't have been much of a surprise.

Kelowna has long held anti-mask rallies led by David Lindsay, who has ties to a white supremacist Paul Fromm. At least one prominent speaker at the rallies has rapped about being a Proud Boy, an organization on Canada's list of terrorist organizations. Across the country, in Saskatoon, anti-maskers flew a flag bearing Odin's cross, a Nazi and white supremacist symbol, according to CBC.
https://www.kelownacapnews.com/news/inv ... st-tirade/
In the video, Singh can be heard telling Orydzuk that he is in Canada on a work permit and that he is not going back.

Orydzuk’s comments and behaviour was heavily condemned by local and provincial officials, from Kelowna city councillor Mohini Singh to Premier John Horgan.

“This is vile, racist behaviour. If this is how you treat people, you are the problem,” Horgan wrote on Twitter. “Racism is a scourge and we must stand together against it to build a better province.”
That's just locally.
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LordEd wrote: Nov 25th, 2021, 3:23 pm
AtlantisKelowna wrote: Nov 25th, 2021, 2:53 pm Race and conspiracy may go together in some cases but in regard to the pandemic, you are out to lunch. Please prove your link between them or are you just about unfounded claims and not proving your accusations?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Sky
Christopher Saccoccia, also identified by the pseudonym Chris Sky, is a Canadian conspiracy theorist known for his involvement in the anti-mask, anti-lockdown, COVID-19 denial and anti-vaccine movements during the COVID-19 pandemic.[1] Saccoccia faces a number of legal issues and criminal charges including for allegations of uttering death threats against Ontario Premier Doug Ford and other public figures and for assault of a police officer, among others.[2]
According to screenshots posted in a piece on Saccoccia by the Canadian Anti-Hate Network, he has engaged online in rhetoric regarding holocaust denial and anti-semitism, anti-black racism, Islamophobia, homophobia and transphobia.[40]
https://www.pentictonherald.ca/news/art ... 4253b.html
Penticton's top anti-masker has ties to white supremacy
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion ... threat-to/
The principal actors of the anti-lockdown movement have either been or rubbed elbows with some significant haters on the scene. Vancouver neo-Nazi Brian Ruhe, who at one point organized a mock book burning, was involved in its earliest iteration. Quebec’s far-right conspiracy streamer Alexis Cossette-Trudel, a big name among France’s QAnon following, is an important mouthpiece of the francophone anti-lockdown movement. Neo-Nazi Paul Fromm is a fixture at rallies in both Ontario and in Kelowna, B.C. Antimask activist Chris Saccoccia’s social-media feeds feature Holocaust denial and racist posts.
Perhaps one of Canada’s most persistent agitators is Kevin Johnston, who made national headlines in 2017 when he was charged with the willful promotion of hatred against Muslims. In 2019, he lost a $2.5-million judgment for his role in racially motivated defamation against Toronto philanthropist Mohamad Fakih in which he repeatedly accused him of being a terrorist; the judge called his comments about Mr. Fakih “hate speech at its worst.” Now, Mr. Johnston is running for mayor of Calgary and has shifted gears by portraying himself as an anti-lockdown and antimask influencer.
https://*bleep*.ca/newsitem/the-political-links-between-racism-and-covid-19-vaccination-protests/it84431
When a COVID-19 conspiracy theorist protester began hurling racist remarks at a Sikh security guard this week, many people across the country were shocked, but it shouldn't have been much of a surprise.

Kelowna has long held anti-mask rallies led by David Lindsay, who has ties to a white supremacist Paul Fromm. At least one prominent speaker at the rallies has rapped about being a Proud Boy, an organization on Canada's list of terrorist organizations. Across the country, in Saskatoon, anti-maskers flew a flag bearing Odin's cross, a Nazi and white supremacist symbol, according to CBC.
https://www.kelownacapnews.com/news/inv ... st-tirade/
In the video, Singh can be heard telling Orydzuk that he is in Canada on a work permit and that he is not going back.

Orydzuk’s comments and behaviour was heavily condemned by local and provincial officials, from Kelowna city councillor Mohini Singh to Premier John Horgan.

“This is vile, racist behaviour. If this is how you treat people, you are the problem,” Horgan wrote on Twitter. “Racism is a scourge and we must stand together against it to build a better province.”
That's just locally.
And are all unfounded opinion pieces. Find some real proof goof
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Articles with screenshots and video are opinion pieces? Charges and $2.5m judgements are opinion pieces? What more do you want for proof?

I get it, you have to deny because these people being anything but pure holy crusaders against an oppressive government wouldn't match your narrative.
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This says it all.....

Why people are vaccine-hesitant in a nutshell.

NZ's prime minister opened up a post to understand the 'hesitant' among us re side-effects of the experimental mRNA spike protein vaccine.. here's a potent reply by Jo Wright;
"Of all the vaccines I have taken in my life like Tetanus shots, measles, mumps, polio, meningitis, TB shots, etc...
Never have I heard so many lies and deceptions over a vaccine that says I have to wear a mask and socially distance even when fully vaccinated, and that I could still contract or spread the virus even after being fully vaccinated.
Never had to get tested when I was perfectly healthy without any symptoms whatsoever.
Never been bribed by the establishments to take the vaccine in order to win a holiday and/or cash prizes or earn frequent flyer points.
I never had to worry about cardiac issues, neurological disorders, blood clots and sadly more! Didn't even have to worry about death.
Never was I ever THREATENED by the use of FORCE by the Government, Employers, Police force, and Military for a vaccine as seen overseas.
I was never judged by my friends or relatives if I didn't take it. I was never discriminated against for travel or other regular services to a point where I could not buy or sell without it.
The vaccines I have listed above never told me I was a bad person for not taking them or for even taking them for that matter.
I have never seen a vaccine that threatened the relationship between my family members and/or close friends to a point of destroying my relationships with them ever.
Never have I seen it used for political gain.
Never seen a vaccine needing 24/7 mass media advertising and promotion on every media outlet known to man.
Then there’s mixing and matching different vaccine brands and being told it's okay to do it one day and then told the next day to not do it (overseas).
I have never seen a vaccine threaten someone's livelihood, as well as wipe out their jobs.
I have never seen a vaccine that allows a 12-year-old child's consent to supersede their parent's consent (that one alone blows me away).
Finally, after all the vaccines (jab, shots) I listed above, I have never seen a vaccine like this one that discriminates, divides, and judges a society. So much information is censored, deleted, and removed from the internet and mainstream media!
So many doctors, health care professionals, police and scientists are censored and forbidden to speak out or ask legitimate questions when what is being allowed or not allowed does not make sense! Particularly when it comes from mainstream media. I have never known a vaccine that has made all the Pharmaceutical companies that manufacture it exempt from liability if it kills everyone to a point where no life insurance will cover it!
This is one powerful vaccine guys! It does all these things above that I have mentioned and yet? It does NOT do the one thing it is supposed to do which is?
FIGHT OFF THIS PANDEMIC so why on earth would I get it.”
Today, I have not seen any commercials on TV or in the media about healthy food, food and living water, lifestyle change, positive thinking, exercise (any type of physical activity) and well-being in general.
Gymnasiums are closed, we are forced to breathe in a mask, we are locked in houses in the media there is only talk about illness and death ... the exact opposite of what a healthy body needs to stay healthy and live in harmony.opied:
Why people are vaccine-hesitant in a nutshell.
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Zedi wrote: Nov 25th, 2021, 8:53 pm Never was I ever THREATENED by the use of FORCE by the Government, Employers, Police force, and Military for a vaccine as seen overseas.
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It really does say it all. He's vaccine hesitant because he's based his decision on lies. Death by misinformation.

The one here posted plenty of that his information as well
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New variant announced

I was just watching the morning news and there has been a new variant announced from Africa. The 1st case outside that continent has also made it to Europe. This variant is even more virulent than the Delta variant.

They are now calling Covid "The unvaccinated Decease".

AND the stock markets are ALL crashing today based upon this news.
https://ca.finance.yahoo.com/
Especially the crypto markets.
Trading volumes were low due to the Thanksgiving holiday in the U.S., which could be could contributing to the volatility. However, major benchmarks fell sharply at the opening bell, indicating Wall Street was in for a rough abbreviated post-Thanksgiving session. The Dow (^DJI) plunged 900 points, or 2.5%, while S&P 500 (^GSPC) and Nasdaq (^IXIC) also fell sharply.

A new coronavirus variant has been discovered in South Africa, leading to an emergency session of the World Health Organization. Scientists say the new B.1.1.529 strain a concern, because it harbors a large number of mutations found in other variants — including the fast-spreading Delta variant that exploded over much of the summer — and it seems to be rapidly spreading.
https://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/stock ... 43465.html
(CNN)South Africa's health minister announced Thursday the discovery of a new coronavirus variant that appears to be spreading rapidly in parts of the country.

"Initially it looked like some cluster outbreaks, but from yesterday, the indication came from our scientists from the Network of Genomic Surveillance that they were observing a new variant," Minister of Health Joe Phaahla said, stressing that it is currently unclear where the variant -- currently dubbed B.1.1.529 -- first emerged.
It has so far been detected in South Africa, Botswana and in a traveler to Hong Kong from South Africa, Phaahla added.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/25/world/co ... index.html
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