BKR. Vaccine Hesitant

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Most countries have travel restrictions in place in a bid to control the spread of COVID-19.

The latest big changes include:
A new variant 'of huge concern' has been detected. Many European countries are banning non-essential arrivals from Southern African countries.

Full lockdown has been reinforced in Austria, meaning a complete ban on entry for tourists.

There has been a spike in cases in Germany, The Netherlands and Belgium leading to increased restrictions.

Some Christmas market have been cancelled in Germany.

Czech Republic has dropped its self-isolation rules for all travellers, but proof of vaccination is needed to enter restaurants.

Moldova has extended its state of emergency until at least the end of the month, with private events still banned.
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Beerhunter341 wrote: Nov 26th, 2021, 12:01 pm
Nothing to worry about. I mean how could it possibly get into Canada with all the Covid measures we have taken? I mean we should all have faith in our Government to lookout for our best interest right? Only vaccinated can fly so unless they drive here then we are all safe. /sarc
I acknowledge the sarcasm but when delta was starting in India and flights were stopped...well..people just flew elsewhere and THEN flew to Canada. Cheaters gonna cheat. Let's hope the world can keep this new one isolated.
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LovemyBolt wrote: Nov 26th, 2021, 12:08 pm
Beerhunter341 wrote: Nov 26th, 2021, 12:01 pm
Nothing to worry about. I mean how could it possibly get into Canada with all the Covid measures we have taken? I mean we should all have faith in our Government to lookout for our best interest right? Only vaccinated can fly so unless they drive here then we are all safe. /sarc
I acknowledge the sarcasm but when delta was starting in India and flights were stopped...well..people just flew elsewhere and THEN flew to Canada. Cheaters gonna cheat. Let's hope the world can keep this new one isolated.
Yup, no problem getting to the US and then a flight or drive from there. Maybe, that is incorrect. Do they prevent South African's from entering or just the flights? And for that matter, what about business travelers' from Canada?
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Went down early this morning to have both legs from ankle to above the groin ultrasounded.
Not a great feeling having a lot of pressure on my legs.
Better than more blood clots though.
The only weird time when the nurse was working up under my underwear.
All I could think of was cold shower, cold shower over and over.
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Beerhunter341 wrote: Nov 26th, 2021, 12:01 pm
LovemyBolt wrote: Nov 26th, 2021, 11:53 am
And then frickin' SA stumbles across a new variant what with their 40% or whatever vaccination uptake. Crap.
Nothing to worry about. I mean how could it possibly get into Canada with all the Covid measures we have taken? I mean we should all have faith in our Government to lookout for our best interest right? Only vaccinated can fly so unless they drive here then we are all safe. /sarc
Haha yeah, they've done such a good job of keeping the infection out so far right? And since the vaccinated can still carry, and spread these variants, it will no doubt be here soon if its not already. Good thing covid is a f'ing joke and most who are even remotely healthy will experience little more than a sore throat.
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alanjh595 wrote: Nov 26th, 2021, 11:36 am
Nowhere in that article does it state anything remotely close to:
jcdenton wrote: Nov 26th, 2021, 10:09 am fact that YOU ARE TAKEN THERE AGAINST YOUR WILL
or
jcdenton wrote: Nov 26th, 2021, 10:09 am must mask when on your front step, can't even have sharp objects and 25 other rules.
Nor any reference to:
jcdenton wrote: Nov 26th, 2021, 10:09 am Australia has begun abducting covid positive people from their homes to place them in government run concentration camps. The government is using the military to abduct these patients for quarantine. These camps have extremely strict rules, and you are unable to leave on your own accord. Reports indicate the prisoners must also pay for these visits.
The people who actually have been to these camps explain in detail the rules, how they got there, the fact that some are their against their will, and so on.

It even states the rules on the government website:
https://coronavirus.nt.gov.au/travel/qu ... quarantine
A person in quarantine must:

-stay in the person’s allocated room, including on any veranda space allocated to the room, unless permitted by an authorised officer; and
-when not in their room, or on their veranda, residents must take all reasonable measures to stay at least 1.5 metres away from any other person in the quarantine facility, except for the person’s spouse, de facto partner, child or parent; and
-wear a face mask when outside their room unless an authorised officer permits the person to remove the face mask; and
-comply with any directions given by an authorised officer to avoid people congregating in a quarantine zone; and
-must not leave the quarantine zone in which the person’s allocated room is located unless the person is escorted by an authorised officer, except in an emergency.
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PoplarSoul wrote: Nov 26th, 2021, 11:33 am
jcdenton wrote: Nov 24th, 2021, 7:06 pm https://www.theguardian.com/australia-n ... -to-worsen

In a recent but small outbreak, Australia has begun abducting covid positive people from their homes to place them in government run concentration camps. The government is using the military to abduct these patients for quarantine. These camps have extremely strict rules, and you are unable to leave on your own accord. Reports indicate the prisoners must also pay for these visits.

bUt ItS jUsT a cOnSpiRacY rIgHt gUys? .....GuYs?
This is not a concentration camp.
Howard Springs quarantine facility

Residents have access to after-hours activities like swimming, cycling, beach volleyball and indoor cricket to improve and maintain their health and fitness.

The result is a stylish, innovative and sustainable accommodation village – the first of its kind in a major Australian city – and an award-winning design the Ichthys LNG Project can be proud of.

About 850 people are currently able to quarantine at the former Howard Springs mining camp on Darwin’s outskirts.
https://aecom.com/projects/manigurr-ma-village/
You can sugar coat it. I'm calling it what it is. Quarantine Camp, Concentration camp. And no, residents absolutely do not have access to those amenities. Those are for use when its not being used as a covid camp.
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Fancy wrote: Nov 26th, 2021, 11:51 am Here's someone that was intubated and lived:
Morgan arrived home on Nov. 15, after spending three weeks in the hospital.

For much of his stay he was intubated and on a ventilator, requiring what his wife Cindy described as ‘lots of monitors and math’ to keep him alive.

“They almost lost him a couple of times,” Cindy said, wiping away some tears.
https://www.wltribune.com/community/it- ... -survivor/
Interesting how some nurses are blowing the whistle about some of the things that really goes on in some of the hospitals:
"A lot of nurses and doctors, half of them looked away because the pay checks were good, and the other half were scared to say anything.
"And if you did say anything, you ended up in my situation. I was fired for advocating for my patients.
"A lot of it, though, was straight-up malpractice. I saw patients test negative for COVID-19, only to be shuttled off to an all-COVID floor where they were sure to contract the illness."

https://www.the-sun.com/news/1357963/ne ... -hospital/

Another nurse claims the city was "murdering" covid patients
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... ators.html
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jcdenton wrote: Nov 26th, 2021, 12:54 pm You can sugar coat it. I'm calling it what it is. Quarantine Camp, Concentration camp. And no, residents absolutely do not have access to those amenities. Those are for use when its not being used as a covid camp.
Facts are not sugar coating.
"Calling it what it is" is just your opinion.
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jcdenton wrote: Nov 26th, 2021, 12:58 pm Interesting how some nurses are blowing the whistle about some of the things that really goes on in some of the hospitals:
Had zero to do with the Williams Lake patient and what he went through but as far as the nurse is concerned in your first link here's a rebuttal from the same link:
“While it is true that some patients tested negative, those patients all had horrendously deranged inflammatory markers (with distributive shock on pressure) and chest x-rays clearly demonstrating lung injury.

"In this case the responsible thing to do is to assume COVID positive and give the available treatment.”
Truths can be backed up by facts - do you have any?
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jcdenton wrote: Nov 26th, 2021, 12:51 pm The people who actually have been to these camps explain in detail the rules, ...
The quarantine camp is being discussed here:
viewtopic.php?f=52&p=2924816#p2924816
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jcdenton wrote: Nov 26th, 2021, 12:51 pm
alanjh595 wrote: Nov 26th, 2021, 11:36 am
Nowhere in that article does it state anything remotely close to:


or



Nor any reference to:
The people who actually have been to these camps explain in detail the rules, how they got there, the fact that some are their against their will, and so on.

It even states the rules on the government website:
https://coronavirus.nt.gov.au/travel/qu ... quarantine
A person in quarantine must:

-stay in the person’s allocated room, including on any veranda space allocated to the room, unless permitted by an authorised officer; and
-when not in their room, or on their veranda, residents must take all reasonable measures to stay at least 1.5 metres away from any other person in the quarantine facility, except for the person’s spouse, de facto partner, child or parent; and
-wear a face mask when outside their room unless an authorised officer permits the person to remove the face mask; and
-comply with any directions given by an authorised officer to avoid people congregating in a quarantine zone; and
-must not leave the quarantine zone in which the person’s allocated room is located unless the person is escorted by an authorised officer, except in an emergency.
That directive is dated 1 year ago.
Chief Health Officer Directions
On 18 March 2020 the Minister for Health declared a public health emergency under section 48 of the Public and Environmental Health Act 2011 (the Act) in relation to COVID-19.
We had similar rules at the same time.
Which were revoked in Australia:
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For a complete list of all rules and their subsequent revocations please see the following.
https://coronavirus.nt.gov.au/__data/as ... 3-2021.pdf

Your story is made up and unsubstantiated.
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alanjh595 wrote: Nov 26th, 2021, 1:48 pm
jcdenton wrote: Nov 26th, 2021, 12:51 pm

The people who actually have been to these camps explain in detail the rules, how they got there, the fact that some are their against their will, and so on.

It even states the rules on the government website:
https://coronavirus.nt.gov.au/travel/qu ... quarantine
A person in quarantine must:

-stay in the person’s allocated room, including on any veranda space allocated to the room, unless permitted by an authorised officer; and
-when not in their room, or on their veranda, residents must take all reasonable measures to stay at least 1.5 metres away from any other person in the quarantine facility, except for the person’s spouse, de facto partner, child or parent; and
-wear a face mask when outside their room unless an authorised officer permits the person to remove the face mask; and
-comply with any directions given by an authorised officer to avoid people congregating in a quarantine zone; and
-must not leave the quarantine zone in which the person’s allocated room is located unless the person is escorted by an authorised officer, except in an emergency.
That directive is dated 1 year ago.
Chief Health Officer Directions
On 18 March 2020 the Minister for Health declared a public health emergency under section 48 of the Public and Environmental Health Act 2011 (the Act) in relation to COVID-19.
We had similar rules at the same time.
Which were revoked in Australia:

Capture 3.JPG

For a complete list of all rules and their subsequent revocations please see the following.
https://coronavirus.nt.gov.au/__data/as ... 3-2021.pdf

Your story is made up and unsubstantiated.
Oh my god please tell me you are smarter than this. Please tell me I am not debating with a 12 year old....

That order rescinding you posted, is for the Northern Territory at large. It has nothing to do with the policies at Howard Springs camp

https://coronavirus.nt.gov.au/__data/as ... f-2021.pdf
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Amnesty UK accused of ‘spreading false information’ about Northern Territory Covid outbreak
Fri 26 Nov 2021 00.13 GMT
“There are ridiculous, untrue rumours about the ADF’s involvement. As we all know, they aren’t carrying weapons – they are carrying fresh food for people. 99.99% of the BS that is flying around on the internet about the territory is coming from flogs outside the territory – mostly America, Canada and the UK, people who have nothing better to do than makeup lies about us because their own lives are so small and so sad.”
The traditional owners of Binjari and Rockhole said they were “very hurt by the untrue comments being made in the media and social media” about their situation.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-n ... d-outbreak

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Found this interesting ..

The new/active cases include:

100 new cases in Fraser Health – Total active cases: 1,071
65 new cases in Vancouver Coastal Health — Total active cases: 536
77 new cases in Interior Health — Total active cases: 593
31 new cases in Northern Health — Total active cases: 381
68 new cases in Island Health — Total active cases: 448
From Nov. 18-24, people not fully vaccinated accounted for 59.2% of cases and from Nov. 11-24, they accounted for 68.4% of hospitalizations.

It seems that the vax isn't working .. So why does the gov't force it ??
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