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normaM wrote: Oct 18th, 2021, 12:00 pm I don't disagree with the letter to Castanet. They should have probably gotten someone a bit more sympathic when they were interviewing for the story
W150 - they are "losing their career" by their own choosing
give them the option of a daily covid test and use the same protocols as before..proper cleanliness and PPE..we need them !! we are already short staffed..things were really bad before, this is only going to make it worse..this is going to become a very sad fact very soon, unless of course it gets ignored or censored by the media..
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W105 wrote: Oct 18th, 2021, 11:52 am ^^ did you feel the same when this pandemic first started ?? or were you just happy that there were front line workers who were just there bravely facing the unknown virus doing jobs that most people can't easily do ??

since you think that they should be "culled" ( what a nasty word to describe someone losing their career ) because they have only one option to keep their job is ok, then obviously you never had any respect for them in the first place..
Well, jeeez.
They ONLY had one option to get the job in the 1st place, and that was to get the education.

In order for them to get the education, they had to pay for it, and many have had to get student loans to do that.

Most employers would have faith in that employee to make rational and informed decisions based upon their training, NOT on their personal feelings. (after all, could a Catholic nurse work in a hospital that performed abortions?)

What dates are being referred to "when it first started?"
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And you armchair cynics ( sorry to the band) think you know stuff ..
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This latest letter is another " EPLLER " thing ...
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MAPearce wrote: Oct 18th, 2021, 6:29 pm And you armchair cynics ( sorry to the band) think you know stuff ..
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This latest letter is another " EPLLER " thing ...
What letter about Dr. Eppler?
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speaking of knowing stuff :/
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Are the health care workers being fired or are they quitting?
Are the care workers saying " I'm not getting a vaccine so I can't go to work" ??
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seewood wrote: Oct 19th, 2021, 7:55 am Are the health care workers being fired or are they quitting?
Are the care workers saying " I'm not getting a vaccine so I can't go to work" ??
They're being told if they don't put this untested vaccine in THEIR body regardless of whatever reason they have for not doing it they will lose their job that's completely unethical in every way.
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Boosted632 wrote: Oct 19th, 2021, 8:18 am They're being told if they don't put this untested vaccine in THEIR body regardless of whatever reason they have for not doing it they will lose their job that's completely unethical in every way.
But then why have the majority of health care workers have had the shots and continuing to go to work? What do they know that the unvaccinated don't?
This mandate to be vaccinated when in the health care business I think is a good one. I'd be thinking most would as well.

the ones that will eventually be laid off because of some reason not to get the vaccine I suspect can get an equivalent job where vaccines are not required. Oh wait...

Do you believe the unvaccinated have every right to go work in Emergency or the OR without being vaccinated regardless of the PPV worn? That thought just screams of idiocy.

Pretty sure it has been tested. I've received two Pfizer and am just fine thank you. Brother had Astra and did have a reaction for 3 days but is fine after the second shot being Pfizer.
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Why just this vaccine? Should they not have ALL their shots up to date? Why is just the Covid vaccine a mandate if it is for health reasons?
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Beerhunter341 wrote: Oct 19th, 2021, 10:32 am Why just this vaccine? Should they not have ALL their shots up to date? Why is just the Covid vaccine a mandate if it is for health reasons?
They do have to have all their shots up to date.
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seewood wrote: Oct 19th, 2021, 10:12 am
Boosted632 wrote: Oct 19th, 2021, 8:18 am They're being told if they don't put this untested vaccine in THEIR body regardless of whatever reason they have for not doing it they will lose their job that's completely unethical in every way.
But then why have the majority of health care workers have had the shots and continuing to go to work? What do they know that the unvaccinated don't?
This mandate to be vaccinated when in the health care business I think is a good one. I'd be thinking most would as well.

the ones that will eventually be laid off because of some reason not to get the vaccine I suspect can get an equivalent job where vaccines are not required. Oh wait...

Do you believe the unvaccinated have every right to go work in Emergency or the OR without being vaccinated regardless of the PPV worn? That thought just screams of idiocy.

Pretty sure it has been tested. I've received two Pfizer and am just fine thank you. Brother had Astra and did have a reaction for 3 days but is fine after the second shot being Pfizer.


^^ well I believe that they have every right to work with the same precautions that were in place when the virus ( and every other infectious disease that they can encounter everyday) first came out and they bravely faced it without knowing if it could kill them or their families..

and I will respect that you think it's idiocy that other human beings might disagree with how you view the vaccine...but don't you think firing Health Care Workers ( when there has always been a shortage of) during a "deadly" pandemic when there's nobody to replace them instantly is just as stupid ??..making a weaker system more weaker screams idiocy to me..
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Lore wrote: Oct 19th, 2021, 10:53 am
Beerhunter341 wrote: Oct 19th, 2021, 10:32 am Why just this vaccine? Should they not have ALL their shots up to date? Why is just the Covid vaccine a mandate if it is for health reasons?
They do have to have all their shots up to date.
They do? How do you know?

The reason I ask is if they have all of their shots up to date then there must really be something wrong with the Covid vax if they have singled out this one to take a stand
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I really don’t think that many will get fired because I think most will just get the shot.
We will see shortly what will happen.
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Beerhunter341 wrote: Oct 19th, 2021, 10:56 am
Lore wrote: Oct 19th, 2021, 10:53 am

They do have to have all their shots up to date.
They do? How do you know?

The reason I ask is if they have all of their shots up to date then there must really be something wrong with the Covid vax if they have singled out this one to take a stand
I work in Health care.
Nothing wrong with the covid vax but something potentially deadly
with covid.
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W105 wrote: Oct 19th, 2021, 10:54 am

^^ well I believe that they have every right to work with the same precautions that were in place when the virus ( and every other infectious disease that they can encounter everyday) first came out and they bravely faced it without knowing if it could kill them
A vaccine was unavailable at the beginning of the novel coronavirus. So no, there is no logic to saying that they have some sort of god given right to ignore the existence of a useful vaccine that has been developed since then.

They should "bravely" get vaccinated instead of being petulant little children.
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