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People are scared of their own shadow....
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alanjh595 wrote: Feb 10th, 2022, 8:00 am Lifting restrictions could cause anxiety for many as unknowns persist
Anxiety as restrictions lift
The Canadian Press - Feb 10, 2022 / 7:10 am
As provinces begin lifting COVID-19 pandemic restrictions, psychology experts expect stress and anxiety to run high among those who remain wary of letting their guards down.

It will take time for many to adjust, they say, but the quick approach some provinces are taking could make the transition more jarring.

Alberta ended its vaccine certificate system on Wednesday, days before its mask requirements for students is set to drop, while Saskatchewan plans to do away with its vaccine mandate on Monday. Other provinces, including Ontario, have taken a more gradual approach to dismantling COVID-19 measures.

Steve Joordens, a psychology professor at the University of Toronto, said it's natural for people to feel conflicted as restrictions ease.
https://www.castanet.net/news/Canada/35 ... ist#359632
A lot of things can cause anxiety for people. I don't see why some peoples anxiety needs to be prioritized over other peoples desire to live their life normally (with all of the inherent risks of living), especially when these anxious people have been given every tool and excuse possible to overcome it, yet they demand others do the suffering for them.

No one is entitled to any aspects or sacrifice of my life.

What is left for these frightened individuals? I propose expanding psychiatrics help, soft blankets, kittens, full-face mask, and soft padded walls if the above fail.
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I don't see why some peoples anxiety needs to be prioritized over other peoples desire to live their life normally
I don't see why people can't adapt to the times and conditions that this virus has put upon the world population and refuse to take measures to protect everyone, including themselves.

They are the ones that are showing their anxiety towards change.
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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUMyRTGd ... -g&index=3[/youtube]
^ I thought she would have more to say than that. She got sick recently and now she's cured.

Isn't it funny - not one word from Canada's "vax-big-pharma" authorities about how to get healthy when you get sick.
All those crooks know is force, and big pharma. YOu think Tam knows anything about health? I'm already very close
to throwing up when I hear her speak. It's time for a change.

How do you cure yourself when you get sick? The drug store?
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This is alarming.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... m-ema-says
European Union regulators warned that frequent Covid-19 booster shots could adversely affect the immune response and may not be feasible.

Repeat booster doses every four months could eventually weaken the immune response and tire out people, according to the European Medicines Agency.
I wanted to see if any other sources came to this conclusion.
I found this one, from 2020.

https://deitexercise.wordpress.com/2020 ... ne-system/
Neutralizing Versus Binding Antibodies

Coronaviruses produce not just one but two different types of antibodies:

Neutralizing antibodies,4 also referred to as immoglobulin G (IgG) antibodies, that fight the infection
Binding antibodies5 (also known as nonneutralizing antibodies) that cannot prevent viral infection

Instead of preventing viral infection, binding antibodies trigger an abnormal immune response known as “paradoxical immune enhancement.” Another way to look at this is your immune system is actually backfiring and not functioning to protect you but actually making you worse.

Many of the COVID-19 vaccines currently in the running are using mRNA to instruct your cells to make the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein (S protein). The spike protein, which is what attaches to the ACE2 receptor of the cell, is the first stage of the two-stage process viruses use to gain entry into cells.

The idea is that by creating the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein, your immune system will commence production of antibodies, without making you sick in the process. The key question is, which of the two types of antibodies are being produced through this process?
Without Neutralizing Antibodies, Expect More Severe Illness

The first is a 2017 study7 in PLOS Pathogens, ”Enhanced Inflammation in New Zealand White Rabbits When MERS-CoV Reinfection Occurs in the Absence of Neutralizing Antibody,” which investigated whether getting infected with MERS would protect the subject against reinfection, as is typically the case with many viral illnesses. (Meaning, once you recover from a viral infection, say measles, you’re immune and won’t contract the illness again.)

To determine how MERS affects the immune system, the researchers infected white rabbits with the virus. The rabbits got sick and developed antibodies, but those antibodies were not the neutralizing kind, meaning the kind of antibodies that block infection. As a result, they were not protected from reinfection, and when exposed to MERS for a second time, they became ill again, and more severely so.

“In fact, reinfection resulted in enhanced pulmonary inflammation, without an associated increase in viral RNA titers,” the authors noted. Interestingly, neutralizing antibodies were elicited during this second infection, preventing the animals from being infected a third time. According to the authors:

“Our data from the rabbit model suggests that people exposed to MERS-CoV who fail to develop a neutralizing antibody response, or persons whose neutralizing antibody titers have waned, may be at risk for severe lung disease on re-exposure to MERS-CoV.”

In other words, if the vaccine does not result in a robust response in neutralizing antibodies, you might be at risk for more severe lung disease if you’re infected with the virus.
If I understand that correctly, if I survive Covid then I have both types of antibodies and I should be fine.

If I get the vaccine, my immune system will not prevent me from reinfection and will actually make me more susceptible to harm , making me dependent on the boosters - only apparently they have found a limit to boosters your immune system can take?
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These vaccine mandates need to stop. They are crossing the line by forcing these on people in order to work. It is unreal to me that some people can't see how wrong these mandates are. They are ruining people's lives.
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If someone doesn't want to get vaccinated, they shouldn't have to. This is craziness. Please people, WAKE UP! This is soooooooo wrong.
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Vaccine Hesitancy began with fear of something so new. Then watching people having to take time off work due to feeling so lousy after receiving the vaccine. Speaking with people who had severe medical issues arise after receiving the vaccine, which may or may not be directly linked to the vaccine. Plus various other observations that made me question the legitimacy of what we are being told.
All while knowing that my age and health place me in a very low risk category. Seeing the push for everyone to receive the vaccine and the division this was creating. The push is still happening and still claiming protection for those around you, yet they also talk about this short window in which you are less likely to catch and spread covid.
Then to catch covid, have symptoms for only 24 hours, never burdening our healthcare system and not infecting anyone; family, friends, coworkers. Speaking to others who have had covid, vaccinated and unvaccinated, and hearing that there is still a wide range of severity regardless of vaccination status. And we still don't even know how many times we will be asked to get another shot.
I think that it is great that we have a vaccine and those who are vulnerable have something that may help them, when I become a part of the vulnerable group I will very likely get vaccinated for covid and the flu.
I sure hope we are concentrating more on our vulnerable than we are on our general population getting vaccinated and boosted, because if BC is following their updated testing guidelines we still have a concerning number of vulnerable, vaccinated people catching covid.
As long as we continue to push this on otherwise healthy people, it will continue to create hesitancy for some.
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alanjh595 wrote: Feb 10th, 2022, 8:16 am
I don't see why some peoples anxiety needs to be prioritized over other peoples desire to live their life normally
I don't see why people can't adapt to the times and conditions that this virus has put upon the world population and refuse to take measures to protect everyone, including themselves.

They are the ones that are showing their anxiety towards change.
The change is happening. It is great to see smiling faces again at the grocery store, hardware store, work places. People are ditching their masks, ignoring the arbitrary distancing stickers on the floor, socializing in large groups, etc. Go to any store in the City and you will see many smiling faces of those no longer buying in. It's over! The narrative that public health officials have been peddling has begun to crumble.
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domain wrote: Feb 10th, 2022, 8:11 am
alanjh595 wrote: Feb 10th, 2022, 8:00 am Lifting restrictions could cause anxiety for many as unknowns persist
Anxiety as restrictions lift
The Canadian Press - Feb 10, 2022 / 7:10 am



https://www.castanet.net/news/Canada/35 ... ist#359632
A lot of things can cause anxiety for people. I don't see why some peoples anxiety needs to be prioritized over other peoples desire to live their life normally (with all of the inherent risks of living), especially when these anxious people have been given every tool and excuse possible to overcome it, yet they demand others do the suffering for them.

No one is entitled to any aspects or sacrifice of my life.

What is left for these frightened individuals? I propose expanding psychiatrics help, soft blankets, kittens, full-face mask, and soft padded walls if the above fail.
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marbles1979 wrote: Feb 10th, 2022, 9:38 am If someone doesn't want to get vaccinated, they shouldn't have to. This is craziness. Please people, WAKE UP! This is soooooooo wrong.
No one is being "forced" ... regulations are being set for some activities that are non-essential or activities that could increase risk for community, until the pandemic has gotten to endemic status ... all these "our freedoms are being taken away" reminds me of the "the sky is falling" trope that someone kept saying over and over again ...
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spooker wrote: Feb 10th, 2022, 10:20 am
marbles1979 wrote: Feb 10th, 2022, 9:38 am If someone doesn't want to get vaccinated, they shouldn't have to. This is craziness. Please people, WAKE UP! This is soooooooo wrong.
No one is being "forced" ... regulations are being set for some activities that are non-essential or activities that could increase risk for community, until the pandemic has gotten to endemic status ... all these "our freedoms are being taken away" reminds me of the "the sky is falling" trope that someone kept saying over and over again ...
Yes, they are being forced. If they want to continue working in their profession, they HAVE to get vaccinated.
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firsttimecaller wrote: Feb 10th, 2022, 9:59 am
alanjh595 wrote: Feb 10th, 2022, 8:16 am

I don't see why people can't adapt to the times and conditions that this virus has put upon the world population and refuse to take measures to protect everyone, including themselves.

They are the ones that are showing their anxiety towards change.
The change is happening. It is great to see smiling faces again at the grocery store, hardware store, work places. People are ditching their masks, ignoring the arbitrary distancing stickers on the floor, socializing in large groups, etc. Go to any store in the City and you will see many smiling faces of those no longer buying in. It's over! The narrative that public health officials have been peddling has begun to crumble.
I sure hope so :up:
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the words "vaccine hesitant" are a lie. There is no one that is vaccine hesitant, now that we
are seeing four doses in Israel do absolutely nothing, and nearly all NHL and NBA players who are vaxxed
on many of the teams got covid.

Every doctor on earth knows a certain percentage of people can go thirty or forty years
without getting sick, and if they do get the cold, it's gone in a few hours.

Vaccine hesitancy, is the word pro-vax lunatics who earn $hundreds of thousands of dollars to promote
vaccines, use to degrade the people who believe in freedom of choice. If you're hesitant, you're timid and don't know what you're doing.

Even the truckers who got the vaccine, would love the VAX-tyrants to shut the **** up and leave them alone from now on.



^ that is the kind of :cuss: that promotes vaccines for $$$$$$$$$



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Lady tehMa wrote: Feb 10th, 2022, 9:02 am This is alarming.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... m-ema-says
European Union regulators warned that frequent Covid-19 booster shots could adversely affect the immune response and may not be feasible.

Repeat booster doses every four months could eventually weaken the immune response and tire out people, according to the European Medicines Agency.
I wanted to see if any other sources came to this conclusion.
I found this one, from 2020.

https://deitexercise.wordpress.com/2020 ... ne-system/
Neutralizing Versus Binding Antibodies

Coronaviruses produce not just one but two different types of antibodies:

Neutralizing antibodies,4 also referred to as immoglobulin G (IgG) antibodies, that fight the infection
Binding antibodies5 (also known as nonneutralizing antibodies) that cannot prevent viral infection

Instead of preventing viral infection, binding antibodies trigger an abnormal immune response known as “paradoxical immune enhancement.” Another way to look at this is your immune system is actually backfiring and not functioning to protect you but actually making you worse.

Many of the COVID-19 vaccines currently in the running are using mRNA to instruct your cells to make the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein (S protein). The spike protein, which is what attaches to the ACE2 receptor of the cell, is the first stage of the two-stage process viruses use to gain entry into cells.

The idea is that by creating the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein, your immune system will commence production of antibodies, without making you sick in the process. The key question is, which of the two types of antibodies are being produced through this process?
Without Neutralizing Antibodies, Expect More Severe Illness

The first is a 2017 study7 in PLOS Pathogens, ”Enhanced Inflammation in New Zealand White Rabbits When MERS-CoV Reinfection Occurs in the Absence of Neutralizing Antibody,” which investigated whether getting infected with MERS would protect the subject against reinfection, as is typically the case with many viral illnesses. (Meaning, once you recover from a viral infection, say measles, you’re immune and won’t contract the illness again.)

To determine how MERS affects the immune system, the researchers infected white rabbits with the virus. The rabbits got sick and developed antibodies, but those antibodies were not the neutralizing kind, meaning the kind of antibodies that block infection. As a result, they were not protected from reinfection, and when exposed to MERS for a second time, they became ill again, and more severely so.

“In fact, reinfection resulted in enhanced pulmonary inflammation, without an associated increase in viral RNA titers,” the authors noted. Interestingly, neutralizing antibodies were elicited during this second infection, preventing the animals from being infected a third time. According to the authors:

“Our data from the rabbit model suggests that people exposed to MERS-CoV who fail to develop a neutralizing antibody response, or persons whose neutralizing antibody titers have waned, may be at risk for severe lung disease on re-exposure to MERS-CoV.”

In other words, if the vaccine does not result in a robust response in neutralizing antibodies, you might be at risk for more severe lung disease if you’re infected with the virus.
If I understand that correctly, if I survive Covid then I have both types of antibodies and I should be fine.

If I get the vaccine, my immune system will not prevent me from reinfection and will actually make me more susceptible to harm , making me dependent on the boosters - only apparently they have found a limit to boosters your immune system can take?
This was mentioned in one of Merry's posts, a while back, and this question is one of the reasons my mum and I decided not to get the booster.

It's also one of the reasons Dr. Henry should be expected to properly explain why she is imposing yet another mandate, forcing people to get vaccinated.

Yesterday she was complaining about physicians who are not towing the party line - she made the accusation they're spreading misinformation. I think we're all tired of being told by our government authorities which scientists and health care professionals we must trust (the ones who say what she wants them to) - and which ones we must ignore.

If our government authorities want us to follow their advice going forward, they must make an effort to explain why the science that does NOT support the mandates isn't being included in their decisions when they are imposing their mandates.
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