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Re: Sask drops vax passport

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Silverstarqueen wrote: Feb 10th, 2022, 9:39 pm
alanjh595 wrote: Feb 10th, 2022, 8:00 am Lifting restrictions could cause anxiety for many as unknowns persist
Anxiety as restrictions lift
The Canadian Press - Feb 10, 2022 / 7:10 am



https://www.castanet.net/news/Canada/35 ... ist#359632
I see a lot of unvaxxed showing that their anxiety is rising as the restrictions are lifting. No doubt they realize they are going to be exposed more than ever to the virus if masks are dropped, and gatherings grow larger and more frequent. I've lost count of the number of times they keep mentioning their concerns about the vaccinated spreading the virus. They are still turning up at hospitals afraid that their immune systems can't handle the virus as it naturally was intended to do. But we have worked around them and protected them about as long as we can, for two years now, so they are just going to have to face their fears. Even the truckers didn't really start raising hell until the restrictions were on the verge of being eased anyway. This is just one more sign that they are feeling extremely anxious about the upcoming weeks.


^^ so where have you "seen" a lot of unvaxxed people showing their anxiety ?? I have taken you as a person who most likely prefers to be around only fully, triple vaccinated people ( which is perfectly fine) ..and I will agree with you "Everybody" will just have to face their fears when the mandates and restrictions are over..and lucky for all of us there' lots of options out there...don't wanna shop in person, you can go online..don't wanna go to the gym, do it at home..don't wanna go out to eat, make dinner at home etc etc..
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From all the people I know and care about there,
I'd put it at about a 80/20 split on this announcement.

80% think it's long overdue, of that, about 60% were against
any of it. period !

The 20%, likely(?) to live their lives in permanent lock down regardless.

In my view, it all comes down to whether being City, Townie, or rural(on the farm)

Time will tell who chooses to live with.
And those who choose to look for the
boogeyman in every shadow,
"Don't 'p' down my neck then tell me it's raining!"
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Re: Sask drops vax passport

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The good news is that anyone who is anxious can take additional measures to protect themselves, as far as I know at least. I do not see us going from mandates and restrictions to not allowing people to continue with health measures. I can't see anyone being forced into any large group settings, or any setting putting them at additional risk. Anyone who is vulnerable has hopefully already updated their mask to something that will actually help protect them, and if they have not yet then they should probably consider doing so. The more vulnerable people have also had lots of time to get vaccinated, to help protect them from severe disease. Unfortunately there are probably some who cannot be vaccinated, so I hope they have been able to lessen their risk in other ways.
I sure hope people continue to keep their distance in public though, it has been so nice not having people standing awkwardly close these past couple years!!!
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SensibleOne wrote: Feb 11th, 2022, 10:13 am ...
I sure hope people continue to keep their distance in public though, it has been so nice not having people standing awkwardly close these past couple years!!!
I've never liked having people breathe over my shoulder and I really enjoyed having the space as well the last two years. Only once did I have to tell someone to back up though cashiers have in my defence. I really don't want to have to tell someone they are in my personal space.
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W105 wrote: Feb 11th, 2022, 9:49 am
Silverstarqueen wrote: Feb 10th, 2022, 9:39 pm
I see a lot of unvaxxed showing that their anxiety is rising as the restrictions are lifting. No doubt they realize they are going to be exposed more than ever to the virus if masks are dropped, and gatherings grow larger and more frequent. I've lost count of the number of times they keep mentioning their concerns about the vaccinated spreading the virus. They are still turning up at hospitals afraid that their immune systems can't handle the virus as it naturally was intended to do. But we have worked around them and protected them about as long as we can, for two years now, so they are just going to have to face their fears. Even the truckers didn't really start raising hell until the restrictions were on the verge of being eased anyway. This is just one more sign that they are feeling extremely anxious about the upcoming weeks.
^^ so where have you "seen" a lot of unvaxxed people showing their anxiety ?? I have taken you as a person who most likely prefers to be around only fully, triple vaccinated people ( which is perfectly fine) ..and I will agree with you "Everybody" will just have to face their fears when the mandates and restrictions are over..and lucky for all of us there' lots of options out there...don't wanna shop in person, you can go online..don't wanna go to the gym, do it at home..don't wanna go out to eat, make dinner at home etc etc..
I have been around all types, vaccinated and unvaccinated, do my own shopping, go to restaurants, never did go to the gym, exercise outdoors rather than indoors, always have.
The unvaxxed have not been shy about sharing their opinions online, and they often mention their anxieties about vaccinated people "spreading the virus" and "the vaccine doesn't work they are still infectious". so this would not concern them if they weren't afraid of being exposed to the virus by vaccinated people. For a while, I felt I should try to protect them some what, but by now, everyone has had plenty of opportunity to get vaccinated, and we have all worn masks and done the distancing thing for just about long enough now. So I think they will just have to get over it and get used to the fact they very likely are going to be exposed to the virus sooner or later.
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Zedi wrote: Feb 11th, 2022, 9:44 am
Silverstarqueen wrote: Feb 10th, 2022, 11:05 pm LOL, you know I have not heard a single vaccinated person say they thought their immune system was damaged by the vaccine. that notion came entirely from the UNvaxxed way of thinking. Now that we have our shots, we are very ready for restrictions to go. Other than a few ER docs, and they reiterate that it's the unvaxxed they are most concerned about, no one seems to be too concerned about opening up. People are already gathering privately more and more, going to restaurants and shops in large numbers. Planning vacations. There seems to be less concern now that they've either had a mild case of it, or seen friends who did and weren't particularly ill. Really, it seem s people are over it and getting back to normal. Well except for the unfortunate folks who have to deal with those truckers if they happen to be in their vicinity.
If the UNvaxxed are not worried , then why do they keep complaining over and over that the vaccinated are spreading the virus? Really if they had such great confidence in their immune systems they wouldn't be worried about that at all would they?
Why are they turning up in hospital wanting treatment? I think the most recent numbers were about 26% of hospitalized were UNvaccinated, even tho they are a small percent of the population. They wouldn't be there if they thought their immune systems were doing so well.
I do. Its called vaccine induced Thrombocytopenia. One needs to get off the computer a little and talk to Canadians
VIT is rare, and your logic fails because thrombosis is far more likely if one gets covid UNvaccinated. It's one of the things that kills covid patients during hospitalization and can even kill them after.
" 64 503 patients showed that deep vein thrombosis (DVT) had an overall prevalence of 11.2% and pulmonary embolism (PE) of 7.8% in those needing hospitalization."
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I read the fine print:
Reports are not proof of causality.
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How does one talk to all these Canadians that had that particular problem?
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-con ... c-20378293
I’m thinking there are better explanations.
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Silverstarqueen wrote: Feb 11th, 2022, 10:45 am
W105 wrote: Feb 11th, 2022, 9:49 am

^^ so where have you "seen" a lot of unvaxxed people showing their anxiety ?? I have taken you as a person who most likely prefers to be around only fully, triple vaccinated people ( which is perfectly fine) ..and I will agree with you "Everybody" will just have to face their fears when the mandates and restrictions are over..and lucky for all of us there' lots of options out there...don't wanna shop in person, you can go online..don't wanna go to the gym, do it at home..don't wanna go out to eat, make dinner at home etc etc..
I have been around all types, vaccinated and unvaccinated, do my own shopping, go to restaurants, never did go to the gym, exercise outdoors rather than indoors, always have.
The unvaxxed have not been shy about sharing their opinions online, and they often mention their anxieties about vaccinated people "spreading the virus" and "the vaccine doesn't work they are still infectious". so this would not concern them if they weren't afraid of being exposed to the virus by vaccinated people. For a while, I felt I should try to protect them some what, but by now, everyone has had plenty of opportunity to get vaccinated, and we have all worn masks and done the distancing thing for just about long enough now. So I think they will just have to get over it and get used to the fact they very likely are going to be exposed to the virus sooner or later.
Not a snowballs chance in hell that an unvaccinated person EVER expected you to do a thing to "protect" them. You do you, let them do them. Why do people like you love this divisiveness so much? Just get out there and live. Who cares who is vaccinated and who is not at this point?
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tigerox wrote: Feb 11th, 2022, 11:07 am FE134910-B7-FB-48-B5-817-C-178-A80708420.jpg
What were they hospitalized for?
And, how many hospitalizations were there for UNvaccinated people over the same time period?
Unless we can compare a vaccinated group of people, to a similar unvaccinated group, there's no way to tell if any of these mean anything.
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People DO care. Big point.
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That’s not even the VAERS website is it?
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Fancy wrote: Feb 11th, 2022, 11:44 am That’s not even the VAERS website is it?
Of course not because then the truth won't fit the narrative.
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Silverstarqueen wrote: Feb 11th, 2022, 10:45 am
W105 wrote: Feb 11th, 2022, 9:49 am

^^ so where have you "seen" a lot of unvaxxed people showing their anxiety ?? I have taken you as a person who most likely prefers to be around only fully, triple vaccinated people ( which is perfectly fine) ..and I will agree with you "Everybody" will just have to face their fears when the mandates and restrictions are over..and lucky for all of us there' lots of options out there...don't wanna shop in person, you can go online..don't wanna go to the gym, do it at home..don't wanna go out to eat, make dinner at home etc etc..
I have been around all types, vaccinated and unvaccinated, do my own shopping, go to restaurants, never did go to the gym, exercise outdoors rather than indoors, always have.
The unvaxxed have not been shy about sharing their opinions online, and they often mention their anxieties about vaccinated people "spreading the virus" and "the vaccine doesn't work they are still infectious". so this would not concern them if they weren't afraid of being exposed to the virus by vaccinated people.
Sounds like you leapt right over their anxieties about being scapegoated to come to your preferred conclusion they were afraid of being exposed to the virus. Illogical, IMO.
Silverstarqueen wrote:For a while, I felt I should try to protect them some what,
How kind of you, to single the unvaxxed out for special protection! Seems to me we were all supposed to be trying to protect each other, regardless of vax status. What special considerations were you making for the unvaxxed?
Silverstarqueen wrote:but by now, everyone has had plenty of opportunity to get vaccinated, and we have all worn masks and done the distancing thing for just about long enough now. So I think they will just have to get over it and get used to the fact they very likely are going to be exposed to the virus sooner or later.
Seems to me the unvaxxed weren't actually waiting to hear whether or not you thought they would have to get over it and get used to the fact they very likely are going to be exposed to the virus sooner or later. Seems to me most of the unvaxxed have been saying for quite some time that we'd all have to get over it and get used to the fact they very likely are going to be exposed to the virus sooner or later.

It'll be interesting to see what happens in Saskatchewan, now that the people of that province are all going to have to do what you think they just have to do.
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