Bkr. Is heart disease increasing around the World?

[Silverstarqueen]

Millions of people are taking supplements, extracts, neutraceuticals, you-name-it, to lose weight, gain muscle, treat anxieties, boost energy. Including young-ish healthy people and, not so youngish healthy people. Some people even became ill from their denture glue. Caffeine in various forms is a common one for weight loss or used by students and teens to boost energy, study for exams. Sometimes these products result in unexplained illness or sudden cardiac arrest/death. Thousands of products, unregulated. No trials, no tracking and tracing of adverse events. It's BUSINESS. and it's a HUGE industry. Rarely does anyone lodge a complaint or a lawsuit ((not that they'd win anyway). Suggestion is to ask your doctor, doctors don't know, because these things have not been studied and are not regulated, so your doctor should be saying, "At your own risk".
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/us/white ... 220d590521

https://www.insider.com/woman-hospitali ... ed%20forms.

[BigDaddyIsHere]

Millions of people are taking supplements, extracts, neutraceuticals, you-name-it, to lose weight, gain muscle, treat anxieties, boost energy. Including young-ish healthy people and, not so youngish healthy people. Some people even became ill from their denture glue. Caffeine in various forms is a common one for weight loss or used by students and teens to boost energy, study for exams. Sometimes these products result in unexplained illness or sudden cardiac arrest/death. Thousands of products, unregulated. No trials, no tracking and tracing of adverse events. It's BUSINESS. and it's a HUGE industry. Rarely does anyone lodge a complaint or a lawsuit ((not that they'd win anyway). Suggestion is to ask your doctor, doctors don't know, because these things have not been studied and are not regulated, so your doctor should be saying, "At your own risk".
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/us/white ... 220d590521

https://www.insider.com/woman-hospitali ... ed%20forms.

So are you ruling out that the Covid Vaccine has anything to do with adverse effects?
I understand that there are people that blame the vaccine for every ailment, but I believe that to be linked to the fact that they rushed this vaccine and it still needed 3 and a half years to pass the minimum data collection to be released to the public. ( There is a
We have a picture of some of the side effects and it will take years before we know the full adverse effects of booster shots and over vaccination.

I find it laughable that you say that these products are not studied or regulated when most of the red tape for the Covid vaccine was cut to get it to market, coerce people to take it, lie about it, and be free of any legal damages the Covid vaccine causes.

And you continue to defend the lies and manipulated statistics revolving around the vaccine and blame ailments on caffeine?

[Silverstarqueen]

It's faster to look at actual studies: A study of nearly 3.5 million, with mostly males should be indicative.
"During follow-up, 269 participants developed myocarditis or myopericarditis, of whom 108 (40%) were 12-39 years old and 196 (73%) were male. Of 3 482 295 individuals vaccinated with BNT162b2 (Pfizer-BioNTech), 48 developed myocarditis or myopericarditis within 28 days from the vaccination date compared with unvaccinated individuals (adjusted hazard ratio 1.34 (95% confidence interval 0.90 to 2.00); absolute rate 1.4 per 100 000 vaccinated individuals"
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8683843/

[Silverstarqueen]

Millions of people are taking supplements, extracts, neutraceuticals, you-name-it, to lose weight, gain muscle, treat anxieties, boost energy. Including young-ish healthy people and, not so youngish healthy people. Some people even became ill from their denture glue. Caffeine in various forms is a common one for weight loss or used by students and teens to boost energy, study for exams. Sometimes these products result in unexplained illness or sudden cardiac arrest/death. Thousands of products, unregulated. No trials, no tracking and tracing of adverse events. It's BUSINESS. and it's a HUGE industry. Rarely does anyone lodge a complaint or a lawsuit ((not that they'd win anyway). Suggestion is to ask your doctor, doctors don't know, because these things have not been studied and are not regulated, so your doctor should be saying, "At your own risk".
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/us/white ... 220d590521

https://www.insider.com/woman-hospitali ... ed%20forms.

So are you ruling out that the Covid Vaccine has anything to do with adverse effects?
I understand that there are people that blame the vaccine for every ailment, but I believe that to be linked to the fact that they rushed this vaccine and it still needed 3 and a half years to pass the minimum data collection to be released to the public.
We have a picture of some of the side effects and it will take years before we know the full adverse effects of booster shots and over vaccination.

I find it laughable that you say that these products are not studied or regulated when most of the red tape for the Covid vaccine was cut to get it to market, coerce people to take it, lie about it, and be free of any legal damages the Covid vaccine causes.

the vaccines were tested on some 44,000 in the trials (more I think if you count moderna). And we have seen the results from Billions of doses. This is far far far more than any testing that is done on food supplements.
People being coerced to take the vaccine does not concern me, many employers have all kinds of requirements on their employees, who have to take it or leave it.

[BigDaddyIsHere]

It's faster to look at actual studies: A study of nearly 3.5 million, with mostly males should be indicative.
"During follow-up, 269 participants developed myocarditis or myopericarditis, of whom 108 (40%) were 12-39 years old and 196 (73%) were male. Of 3 482 295 individuals vaccinated with BNT162b2 (Pfizer-BioNTech), 48 developed myocarditis or myopericarditis within 28 days from the vaccination date compared with unvaccinated individuals (adjusted hazard ratio 1.34 (95% confidence interval 0.90 to 2.00); absolute rate 1.4 per 100 000 vaccinated individuals"
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8683843/

Your article/study comes from a university where it biggest donor by far is a massive pharmaceutical company.

https://uniavisen.dk/en/top-10-they-don ... openhagen/

You think they are going to sewer an industry where their biggest amount of funds come from?

[BigDaddyIsHere]

So are you ruling out that the Covid Vaccine has anything to do with adverse effects?
I understand that there are people that blame the vaccine for every ailment, but I believe that to be linked to the fact that they rushed this vaccine and it still needed 3 and a half years to pass the minimum data collection to be released to the public.
We have a picture of some of the side effects and it will take years before we know the full adverse effects of booster shots and over vaccination.

I find it laughable that you say that these products are not studied or regulated when most of the red tape for the Covid vaccine was cut to get it to market, coerce people to take it, lie about it, and be free of any legal damages the Covid vaccine causes.

the vaccines were tested on some 44,000 in the trials (more I think if you count moderna). And we have seen the results from Billions of doses. This is far far far more than any testing that is done on food supplements.
People being coerced to take the vaccine does not concern me, many employers have all kinds of requirements on their employees, who have to take it or leave it.

It was not tested in the normal parameter SQ. Admit it. We still don’t know the short term consequences of Covid vaccine (5 years) and we definitely do not know potential adverse effects of repeated booster shots every 3-9 months.
They rushed it. Everyone know the red tape was cut
President Trump called it “Operation Warpspeed” nothing like this has ever been done.
You can’t rush science, billions of doses were coerced for one of the biggest human trials we will ever have and the fact you don’t care just goes to show how much of a narcissist you are.

“People being coerced to take the vaccine does not concern me”
~SIlverstarQueen 2022

[Silverstarqueen]

the vaccines were tested on some 44,000 in the trials (more I think if you count moderna). And we have seen the results from Billions of doses. This is far far far more than any testing that is done on food supplements.
People being coerced to take the vaccine does not concern me, many employers have all kinds of requirements on their employees, who have to take it or leave it.

It was not tested in the normal parameter SQ. Admit it. We still don’t know the short term consequences of Covid vaccine (5 years) and we definitely do not know potential adverse effects of repeated booster shots every 3-9 months.
They rushed it. Everyone know the red tape was cut
President Trump called it “I Operation Warpspeed” nothing like this has ever been done.
You can’t rush science, billions of doses were coerced for one of the biggest human trials we will ever have and the fact you don’t care just goes to show how much of a narcissist you are.

“People being coerced to take the vaccine does not concern me”
~SIlverstarQueen 2022

How many neutraceuticals have a follow up adverse event reporting system. There probably is one, but virually no one is using anything like it. No physician oversight, no nothing.
There is nothing wrong with the way the vaccine trials were done. They only provide short term results, which is why the follow up adverse event reporting is important. And it did signal some possible concerns which were/are being studied and followed up on. There's hundreds of studies being done and even many already published. Anyone can read the results. There are very few medications and practically no common supplements that are being studied as closely. I would be not even aspirin and ibuprofen or tylenol have undergone as much study as the covid vaccines are generating. We are two years into it and already upgrades to the original vaccine with tons of data. Unprecedented. The smallpox vaccine, which has been around a lot longer doesn't have this much study. Pertussis vaccines, which were not 100% effective, took years and years before they were updated. I am not sure they are 100% effective yet. Still we give them, we require them in many cases. Pertussis is still with us, probably always will be. No one expects the vaccine to eliminate pertussis or all cases of pertussis. We just hope that it means fewer babies and toddlers in hospital or dying. The first version of the shingles vaccine were not terribly effective either, but it's so common and so miserable of a condition, that the makers then thought it was worthwhile to design a better one. Given that the Covid manufacturers had limited window to work in, their vaccine was pretty good (not perfect), and they will work on future improvements. If they would have said, Sure, we will come up with a covid vaccine, but we won't release it till it's been tested for five years, No country would have been interested. Countries wanted a vaccine sooner rather than later, and that's what they got.

Of course I care about the safety and effectiveness of the vaccines, and other covid treatments. Not many laypeople have read as many studies as I have. If that makes me a narcissist (in your expert opinion), then fine, call me whatever names you like. Because one thing I don't care about, is stupid people calling me stupid names.

[hozzle]

^^^ None of the vaxx examples posted above have had an increase in myocarditis and pericarditis, so please stop the garbage analogy overflow. None of the of the vaxx examples posted above have been forced onto such a large age group in history, but ironically only to the wealthier countries.
Pfizer and the FDA took less time to study & approve the vaxx then they are willing to print out court ordered document, which I am sure the document are guarded because of the one clause in the emergency use act: Pfizer and Moderna have total immunity from legal liability under the PREP Act if something unintentionally goes wrong...

PS: Lexology & Idioms 101: Stupid is as stupid does; Beat around the bush; I've got your number; Read between the lines...

[BigDaddyIsHere]

It was not tested in the normal parameter SQ. Admit it. We still don’t know the short term consequences of Covid vaccine (5 years) and we definitely do not know potential adverse effects of repeated booster shots every 3-9 months.
They rushed it. Everyone know the red tape was cut
President Trump called it “I Operation Warpspeed” nothing like this has ever been done.
You can’t rush science, billions of doses were coerced for one of the biggest human trials we will ever have and the fact you don’t care just goes to show how much of a narcissist you are.

“People being coerced to take the vaccine does not concern me”
~SIlverstarQueen 2022

How many neutraceuticals have a follow up adverse event reporting system. There probably is one, but virually no one is using anything like it. No physician oversight, no nothing.
There is nothing wrong with the way the vaccine trials were done. They only provide short term results, which is why the follow up adverse event reporting is important. And it did signal some possible concerns which were/are being studied and followed up on. There's hundreds of studies being done and even many already published. Anyone can read the results. There are very few medications and practically no common supplements that are being studied as closely. I would be not even aspirin and ibuprofen or tylenol have undergone as much study as the covid vaccines are generating. We are two years into it and already upgrades to the original vaccine with tons of data. Unprecedented. The smallpox vaccine, which has been around a lot longer doesn't have this much study. Pertussis vaccines, which were not 100% effective, took years and years before they were updated. I am not sure they are 100% effective yet. Still we give them, we require them in many cases. Pertussis is still with us, probably always will be. No one expects the vaccine to eliminate pertussis or all cases of pertussis. We just hope that it means fewer babies and toddlers in hospital or dying. The first version of the shingles vaccine were not terribly effective either, but it's so common and so miserable of a condition, that the makers then thought it was worthwhile to design a better one. Given that the Covid manufacturers had limited window to work in, their vaccine was pretty good (not perfect), and they will work on future improvements. If they would have said, Sure, we will come up with a covid vaccine, but we won't release it till it's been tested for five years, No country would have been interested. Countries wanted a vaccine sooner rather than later, and that's what they got.

Of course I care about the safety and effectiveness of the vaccines, and other covid treatments. Not many laypeople have read as many studies as I have. If that makes me a narcissist (in your expert opinion), then fine, call me whatever names you like. Because one thing I don't care about, is stupid people calling me stupid names.

^^^ how’s the view from the pedestal you are standing on?
Best example of narcissism I have seen in a while.

[Zedi]

So are you ruling out that the Covid Vaccine has anything to do with adverse effects?
I understand that there are people that blame the vaccine for every ailment, but I believe that to be linked to the fact that they rushed this vaccine and it still needed 3 and a half years to pass the minimum data collection to be released to the public.
We have a picture of some of the side effects and it will take years before we know the full adverse effects of booster shots and over vaccination.

I find it laughable that you say that these products are not studied or regulated when most of the red tape for the Covid vaccine was cut to get it to market, coerce people to take it, lie about it, and be free of any legal damages the Covid vaccine causes.

the vaccines were tested on some 44,000 in the trials (more I think if you count moderna). And we have seen the results from Billions of doses. This is far far far more than any testing that is done on food supplements.
People being coerced to take the vaccine does not concern me, many employers have all kinds of requirements on their employees, who have to take it or leave it.

All you need to know about this poster. “People being coerced doesn’t concern me”.
That is exactly the thinking of an authoritarian!

Authoritarianism trumps truth and facts. Take this shot as I say!

[Silverstarqueen]

The majority took the vax for whatever reasons. A small percentage decided not to take the vax for any reason. There would never be total agreement on something like a vaccine. Some of those who chose not to get it, now are unhappy with their choice. There aren't many employers that allow their employees to do exactly as they please and still stay with the job. So that paycheck is a way of "coercing" employees to do whatever their employers want. This is just a fact of life. In this case it just happened to involve a vaccine, that's all. Life is full of choices, not always fun choices. If you can't or will not meet the requirements of a job, it's time to find another job, OR MAKE YOUR OWN! Always an option, lots of people prefer that. I quit my job once, so I get it. After a time I realized it actually wanted that job, but it was too late. So I didn't mope about it, I got another job , and it was the best thing ever! I think some people discovered this during the pandemic, many have shifted their priorities, found new ways to live and work. It's good to reassess priorities as different points in life.

[BigDaddyIsHere]

the vaccines were tested on some 44,000 in the trials (more I think if you count moderna). And we have seen the results from Billions of doses. This is far far far more than any testing that is done on food supplements.
People being coerced to take the vaccine does not concern me, many employers have all kinds of requirements on their employees, who have to take it or leave it.

All you need to know about this poster. “People being coerced doesn’t concern me”.
That is exactly the thinking of an authoritarian!

Authoritarianism trumps truth and facts. Take this shot as I say!

Exactly. People like this should be sent to the bottom of the ocean

[Thinktank]

People being coerced to take the vaccine does not concern me..

The President of Costa Rica said "We are NOT ANIMALS - and will never again force people to get the vaccine."

Chrystia Freeload - acting as if Canadians are animals - said federal workers WILL BE VAXXED, or fired.
Trudeau, Alghabra and Joly and freeland's staff - all vaxxed, all covid infested.

And that's how we know who is an animal and who is a human - Chrystia Freeland is an animal. President
of Costa Rica is a human.

[Silverstarqueen]

Exactly. People like this should be sent to the bottom of the ocean

All you need to know about this poster.
And you thought I was authoritarian.

[Silverstarqueen]

Long term Cardiovascular outcomes after Covid-19 (even among those who were not hospitalized).
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8938267/

Thinking the UNvaccinated are free and clear?
https://www.tctmd.com/news/after-covid- ... plications