Bkr. Is heart disease increasing around the World?

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Sudden cardiac death, largely avoidable:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35726434/
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Silverstarqueen wrote: Oct 15th, 2022, 10:36 am Sudden cardiac death, largely avoidable:
Relevant antiarrhythmic mechanisms include modification of cell membrane structure by n-3 polyunsaturated fatty acids, their direct effect on calcium channels and cardiomyocytes and their important role in eicosanoid metabolism, enhancing myocyte electric stability,....
look at the kind of :cuss: big pharma produces. Just speak English.

Avoidable how - by telling the government to shove their "precious" vaxine ?


1354 Athlete Cardiac Arrests
https://goodsciencing.com/covid/athlete ... ovid-shot/
with a link to every one of the unPfortunate Pfake Pfizer victims.

#1 - Francesco Casagrand - does it look like he eats a fat diet? He's dead now like 1354 other healthy people
who got vaxxed.
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Thinktank wrote: Oct 15th, 2022, 12:00 pm
Silverstarqueen wrote: Oct 15th, 2022, 10:36 am Sudden cardiac death, largely avoidable:
look at the kind of :cuss: big pharma produces. Just speak English.

Avoidable how - by telling the government to shove their "precious" vaxine ?


1354 Athlete Cardiac Arrests
https://goodsciencing.com/covid/athlete ... ovid-shot/
with a link to every one of the unPfortunate Pfake Pfizer victims.

#1 - Francesco Casagrand - does it look like he eats a fat diet? He's dead now like 1354 other healthy people
who got vaxxed.
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And what does that list have to do with the vaccine? Last time we were presented with a list like that I started randomly checking out the actual stories, from the families, from medical examiners, from coaches, and a lot of them had nothing to do with the vaccine. Some weren't vaccinated, some died from an injury, at least one in a car accident. They had nothing to do with the vaccine.

There are nutrients which have been associated with lower rate of sudden cardiac deaths or arrythmias, examply magneisum sufficient vs, magnesium deficient diets. So maybe some of the sudden deaths are just taxing the body to the max, while they happen to be deficient in magnesium (or some other nutrient)? The fat content of the diet could be irrelevant. There are also skinny people on low fat diets, there are skinny people on high fat diets.
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Silverstarqueen wrote: Oct 15th, 2022, 12:39 pm
Thinktank wrote: Oct 15th, 2022, 12:00 pm
look at the kind of :cuss: big pharma produces. Just speak English.

Avoidable how - by telling the government to shove their "precious" vaxine ?


1354 Athlete Cardiac Arrests
https://goodsciencing.com/covid/athlete ... ovid-shot/
with a link to every one of the unPfortunate Pfake Pfizer victims.

#1 - Francesco Casagrand - does it look like he eats a fat diet? He's dead now like 1354 other healthy people
who got vaxxed.
Image

sigh.gif
And what does that list have to do with the vaccine? Last time we were presented with a list like that I started randomly checking out the actual stories, from the families, from medical examiners, from coaches, and a lot of them had nothing to do with the vaccine. Some weren't vaccinated, some died from an injury, at least one in a car accident. They had nothing to do with the vaccine.

There are nutrients which have been associated with lower rate of sudden cardiac deaths or arrythmias, examply magneisum sufficient vs, magnesium deficient diets. So maybe some of the sudden deaths are just taxing the body to the max, while they happen to be deficient in magnesium (or some other nutrient)? The fat content of the diet could be irrelevant. There are also skinny people on low fat diets, there are skinny people on high fat diets.
You have no idea if it was from the vax or not. None of us truly do, but circumstantial evidence points to the only major culprit, the shots. It’s the only reasonable explanation. Especially when pharma, cdc, fda has already been caught trying to cover up the safety data from the cardiac related harms from these shots
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Zedi wrote: Oct 15th, 2022, 1:56 pm
Silverstarqueen wrote: Oct 15th, 2022, 12:39 pm
And what does that list have to do with the vaccine? Last time we were presented with a list like that I started randomly checking out the actual stories, from the families, from medical examiners, from coaches, and a lot of them had nothing to do with the vaccine. Some weren't vaccinated, some died from an injury, at least one in a car accident. They had nothing to do with the vaccine.

There are nutrients which have been associated with lower rate of sudden cardiac deaths or arrythmias, examply magneisum sufficient vs, magnesium deficient diets. So maybe some of the sudden deaths are just taxing the body to the max, while they happen to be deficient in magnesium (or some other nutrient)? The fat content of the diet could be irrelevant. There are also skinny people on low fat diets, there are skinny people on high fat diets.
You have no idea if it was from the vax or not. None of us truly do, but circumstantial evidence points to the only major culprit, the shots. It’s the only reasonable explanation. Especially when pharma, cdc, fda has already been caught trying to cover up the safety data from the cardiac related harms from these shots
Circumstantial evidence is a legal term. Vaccines are not the only reasonable explanation. Unless someone can show that uvaccinated compared to vaccinated (all other factors being equal) have less/more sudden cardiac deaths, there is no evidence. Having a group before a covid surge and then during a covid surge and saying that the only change was the vaccination is not "all other things being equal". As you say, we have no idea if it was from the vaccine or not. So that's not evidence of anything.
Sudden death in Athletes; Maybe it's magnesium
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/1295572/
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Silverstarqueen wrote: Oct 15th, 2022, 2:50 pm
Zedi wrote: Oct 15th, 2022, 1:56 pm

You have no idea if it was from the vax or not. None of us truly do, but circumstantial evidence points to the only major culprit, the shots. It’s the only reasonable explanation. Especially when pharma, cdc, fda has already been caught trying to cover up the safety data from the cardiac related harms from these shots
Circumstantial evidence is a legal term. Vaccines are not the only reasonable explanation. Unless someone can show that uvaccinated compared to vaccinated (all other factors being equal) have less/more sudden cardiac deaths, there is no evidence. Having a group before a covid surge and then during a covid surge and saying that the only change was the vaccination is not "all other things being equal". As you say, we have no idea if it was from the vaccine or not. So that's not evidence of anything.
Sudden death in Athletes; Maybe it's magnesium
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/1295572/
Cancer increasing just like heart disease. What could possibly causing an increase in cancer especially among the younger demographic? There’s no way it could be the shots. Most likely magnesium. Because pharma is trustworthy and honest!! Their products don’t harm people.

https://palexander.substack.com/p/covid ... and-cancer
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Zedi wrote: Oct 16th, 2022, 9:13 am
Silverstarqueen wrote: Oct 15th, 2022, 2:50 pm
Circumstantial evidence is a legal term. Vaccines are not the only reasonable explanation. Unless someone can show that uvaccinated compared to vaccinated (all other factors being equal) have less/more sudden cardiac deaths, there is no evidence. Having a group before a covid surge and then during a covid surge and saying that the only change was the vaccination is not "all other things being equal". As you say, we have no idea if it was from the vaccine or not. So that's not evidence of anything.
Sudden death in Athletes; Maybe it's magnesium
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/1295572/
Cancer increasing just like heart disease. What could possibly causing an increase in cancer especially among the younger demographic? There’s no way it could be the shots. Most likely magnesium. Because pharma is trustworthy and honest!! Their products don’t harm people.

https://palexander.substack.com/p/covid ... and-cancer
I can't see their data for some reason.
Anyone can post anything. And now we know they will. Anti-vaxxers are getting desperate, while everyone else is moving on and booking their vacations, lol.
Note: cancer deaths for 2020, 2021. I doubt they have collated 2022 yet.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/125 ... ber-daily/
No skyrocketting deaths due heart disease!
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Silverstarqueen wrote: Oct 16th, 2022, 10:43 am
Zedi wrote: Oct 16th, 2022, 9:13 am

Cancer increasing just like heart disease. What could possibly causing an increase in cancer especially among the younger demographic? There’s no way it could be the shots. Most likely magnesium. Because pharma is trustworthy and honest!! Their products don’t harm people.

https://palexander.substack.com/p/covid ... and-cancer
I can't see their data for some reason.
Anyone can post anything. And now we know they will. Anti-vaxxers are getting desperate, while everyone else is moving on and booking their vacations, lol.
Desperate for what? To highlight another medical scam brought to you by Pfizer and their cronies at the FDA and CDC.
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Zedi wrote: Oct 16th, 2022, 10:56 am
Silverstarqueen wrote: Oct 16th, 2022, 10:43 am

I can't see their data for some reason.
Anyone can post anything. And now we know they will. Anti-vaxxers are getting desperate, while everyone else is moving on and booking their vacations, lol.
Desperate for what? To highlight another medical scam brought to you by Pfizer and their cronies at the FDA and CDC.
No increase in cancer deaths or cardiac deaths. Oh dear, there goes another conspiracy theory down the drain.
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Silverstarqueen wrote: Oct 16th, 2022, 11:37 am No increase in cancer deaths or cardiac deaths. Oh dear, there goes another conspiracy theory down the drain.
Who labeled it a conspiracy?
... an unknown individual with no expertise on a forum? :135:
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Now we know: If a video game can trigger it, what else? intense exercise?
https://videogamelaw.allard.ubc.ca/2022 ... onditions/
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Don't fall off the stool when you reach that far :D
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Pointing to very RARE side effects (like deaths) of a vaccine as if it was causing a major increase in deaths, during a PANDEMIC, is feeding a conspiracy theory. Unless the excess deaths, in largish numbers can actually be linked to vaccinated vs. unvaccinated, there is no logical reason to connect those deaths to the vaccine.
Guess who's a favorite for this ploy, yes Nurse Sharpie! who had to be so careful, because the authorities are stalking him now! If that's not a conspiracy theory, I don't know what would be.
Anti-vaxxers and Covid deniers want to claim, at the same time, Covid is not serious, just a cold, AND all these excess deaths are not due to Covid. Show us the data: Higher rate of deaths for vaccinated vs. UNvaccinated (all other things being equal such as age, comorbidities). Heart disease is not increasing, it always has been one of the leading causes of death in developed countries (where people live long enough to develop it).

...697,000 americans died of heart disease in 2020, one in five deaths.About 20.1 million adults age 20 and older have CAD (about 7.2%).2
In 2020, about 2 in 10 deaths from CAD happen in adults less than 65 years old.

https://wholistic.substack.com/p/dr-joh ... ess-deaths
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Silverstarqueen wrote: Oct 17th, 2022, 7:02 am Pointing to very RARE side effects (like deaths) of a vaccine as if it was causing a major increase in deaths, during a PANDEMIC, is feeding a conspiracy theory. Unless the excess deaths, in largish numbers can actually be linked to vaccinated vs. unvaccinated, there is no logical reason to connect those deaths to the vaccine.
Guess who's a favorite for this ploy, yes Nurse Sharpie! who had to be so careful, because the authorities are stalking him now! If that's not a conspiracy theory, I don't know what would be.
Anti-vaxxers and Covid deniers want to claim, at the same time, Covid is not serious, just a cold, AND all these excess deaths are not due to Covid. Show us the data: Higher rate of deaths for vaccinated vs. UNvaccinated (all other things being equal such as age, comorbidities).

https://wholistic.substack.com/p/dr-joh ... ess-deaths
How can people sit here and blame Covid for “the excess death” and not even consider that it could be long term consequences from the vaccine? Calling everything that they don’t believe in a conspiracy theory…
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BigDaddyIsHere wrote: Oct 17th, 2022, 7:15 am
Silverstarqueen wrote: Oct 17th, 2022, 7:02 am Pointing to very RARE side effects (like deaths) of a vaccine as if it was causing a major increase in deaths, during a PANDEMIC, is feeding a conspiracy theory. Unless the excess deaths, in largish numbers can actually be linked to vaccinated vs. unvaccinated, there is no logical reason to connect those deaths to the vaccine.
Guess who's a favorite for this ploy, yes Nurse Sharpie! who had to be so careful, because the authorities are stalking him now! If that's not a conspiracy theory, I don't know what would be.
Anti-vaxxers and Covid deniers want to claim, at the same time, Covid is not serious, just a cold, AND all these excess deaths are not due to Covid. Show us the data: Higher rate of deaths for vaccinated vs. UNvaccinated (all other things being equal such as age, comorbidities).

https://wholistic.substack.com/p/dr-joh ... ess-deaths
How can people sit here and blame Covid for “the excess death” and not even consider that it could be long term consequences from the vaccine? Calling everything that they don’t believe in a conspiracy theory…
We don't have long term consequences, excess deaths or otherwise attributable to the vaccine.
Until someone does long term studies, if there are excess deaths, the cause has not been attributed to the vaccine.
You are playing a guessing game. If someone just "thinks" it must be the vaccine, without evidence, that's not science. So what can we call it then?
There were hundreds, thousands, of deaths due to covid, before the vaccine came out, so in UNvaccinated people. Do you think then that all that stopped immediately, and suddenly thousands of deaths were due to a vaccine?

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