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Zedi wrote: Jul 14th, 2022, 11:49 am
Silverstarqueen wrote: Jul 14th, 2022, 9:38 am Getting a child/infant vaccinated does not prevent the immune system from doing what it does.
Vaccination is not an "emotional" decision. Parents are quite capable of weighing their child's risks from covid (not all children are at low risk), there are toddlerrs with risk factors, but the parent need to work and have the child in daycare. Reducing days needed to take off from work with a sick kid would be a perfectly normal reason to have them vaccinated. Some daycares might require it. Some kids need to go to hospitals or doctors offices for treatments or checkups, being vaccinated is one more way to keep them healthy. The suggestion that parents do not take other reasonable health measures for their children is ridiculous. In general, parents who vaccinate their kids are more likely to look after all other health aspects of their children as well.
I know a few little kiddos who have had covid and a few other unknown (possibly covid) coughs and sore throats, so if a vaccine can reduce that even somewhat, why not? Then there's those few cases of MIS-C which if vaccinating prevented even half of those, would be a good thing. I don't think we even know yet, if kids are getting long covid, but I read somewhere that it does occur. Even if not many kids are dying from covid, preventing hospitalizations is a good thing.
Absolutely no need to vaccinate infants. No long term studies on these shots, especially infants.

Kids get illnesses all the time, its how they build an immune system. Vaccinating infants so the parents don't have to miss work is crazy talk. If thats your line of thinking you might as well keep them in isolated so they are never exposed to anything where they might get hurt or sick, all in the name of parents not missing work. OMG
so now you know more about whether a parent should vaccinate their child than the parent and their doctor does?
Do you have a medical degree?
The vaccine does not interfere at all with a child's developing their immune system against covid.
I don't ascribe to isolating children so they don't get hurt or sick, no idea where you got that idea from, maybe just poor reading comprehension.
In March, in Alberta alone: "As of Thursday, 34 of the 1,067 Albertans hospitalized with COVID-19 were under 18, including seven in the ICU."
Do you think the Doctors in our Children's hospitals know whether children should be vaccinated for Covid?
In one six month period, Canada had 142 cases of MIS-C, which usually requires hospitalization.
4400 kids under the age of 12 in Canada have been hospitalized with covid.
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Re: Infant COVID vax approved

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Silverstarqueen wrote: Jul 14th, 2022, 5:32 pm
Zedi wrote: Jul 14th, 2022, 11:49 am

Absolutely no need to vaccinate infants. No long term studies on these shots, especially infants.

Kids get illnesses all the time, its how they build an immune system. Vaccinating infants so the parents don't have to miss work is crazy talk. If thats your line of thinking you might as well keep them in isolated so they are never exposed to anything where they might get hurt or sick, all in the name of parents not missing work. OMG
so now you know more about whether a parent should vaccinate their child than the parent and their doctor does?
Do you have a medical degree?
The vaccine does not interfere at all with a child's developing their immune system against covid.
I don't ascribe to isolating children so they don't get hurt or sick, no idea where you got that idea from, maybe just poor reading comprehension.
How do you know the vaccine doesn't interfere at all with a child's immunity system? Do you have a medical degree or is that what Bonnie Henry said? It's amazing how much trust people have in Bonnie Henry.

I have kids in this age group and I will definitely not be getting them vaccinated. It was right after the 5 to 11 year olds started getting vaccinated that Covid started going around the school. It was right after everyone started getting vaccinated that everyone was getting it. People got it before being vaccinated and were just fine. Vaccine mandates are BS. How can anyone not see that. And don't tell me there aren't mandates. And please don't provide me with a huge long drawn out reply full of inaccurate numbers. There are still mandates out there and this is not over. The variants are coming. And they are starting to talk about vaccines again, like there is nothing else anyone can do to protect themself except get this frickin vaccine.
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Re: Infant COVID vax approved

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Silverstarqueen wrote: Jul 14th, 2022, 5:32 pm
Zedi wrote: Jul 14th, 2022, 11:49 am

Absolutely no need to vaccinate infants. No long term studies on these shots, especially infants.

Kids get illnesses all the time, its how they build an immune system. Vaccinating infants so the parents don't have to miss work is crazy talk. If thats your line of thinking you might as well keep them in isolated so they are never exposed to anything where they might get hurt or sick, all in the name of parents not missing work. OMG
so now you know more about whether a parent should vaccinate their child than the parent and their doctor does?
Do you have a medical degree?
The vaccine does not interfere at all with a child's developing their immune system against covid.
I don't ascribe to isolating children so they don't get hurt or sick, no idea where you got that idea from, maybe just poor reading comprehension.
In March, in Alberta alone: "As of Thursday, 34 of the 1,067 Albertans hospitalized with COVID-19 were under 18, including seven in the ICU."
Do you think the Doctors in our Children's hospitals know whether children should be vaccinated for Covid?
In one six month period, Canada had 142 cases of MIS-C, which usually requires hospitalization.
I think the doctors in our children's hospital follow protocol, and if Bonnie Henry says children should get vaccinated then that's what they are supposed to say. Anyone that says otherwise is judged.
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marbles1979 wrote: Jul 14th, 2022, 5:51 pm
Silverstarqueen wrote: Jul 14th, 2022, 5:32 pm

so now you know more about whether a parent should vaccinate their child than the parent and their doctor does?
Do you have a medical degree?
The vaccine does not interfere at all with a child's developing their immune system against covid.
I don't ascribe to isolating children so they don't get hurt or sick, no idea where you got that idea from, maybe just poor reading comprehension.
How do you know the vaccine doesn't interfere at all with a child's immunity system? Do you have a medical degree or is that what Bonnie Henry said? It's amazing how much trust people have in Bonnie Henry.

I have kids in this age group and I will definitely not be getting them vaccinated. It was right after the 5 to 11 year olds started getting vaccinated that Covid started going around the school. It was right after everyone started getting vaccinated that everyone was getting it. People got it before being vaccinated and were just fine. Vaccine mandates are BS. How can anyone not see that. And don't tell me there aren't mandates. And please don't provide me with a huge long drawn out reply full of inaccurate numbers. There are still mandates out there and this is not over. The variants are coming. And they are starting to talk about vaccines again, like there is nothing else anyone can do to protect themself except get this frickin vaccine.
As I have said, you should be able to make that decision for your children, so I am not sure why you have a problem with my comment. Don't you think other parents should also be able to decide what's right for their child/family?
Kids were getting covid at school and daycare long before the vaccines were available.
When the vaccine was in trial with young kids, tests are done to see how their antibodies are responding. I don't need a medical degree, but the people who conduct the trials do. I think they know far more about this than you or I.
If you don't want the vaccine for your kids, don't get it. Simple eh?
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marbles1979 wrote: Jul 14th, 2022, 5:54 pm
Silverstarqueen wrote: Jul 14th, 2022, 5:32 pm

so now you know more about whether a parent should vaccinate their child than the parent and their doctor does?
Do you have a medical degree?
The vaccine does not interfere at all with a child's developing their immune system against covid.
I don't ascribe to isolating children so they don't get hurt or sick, no idea where you got that idea from, maybe just poor reading comprehension.
In March, in Alberta alone: "As of Thursday, 34 of the 1,067 Albertans hospitalized with COVID-19 were under 18, including seven in the ICU."
Do you think the Doctors in our Children's hospitals know whether children should be vaccinated for Covid?
In one six month period, Canada had 142 cases of MIS-C, which usually requires hospitalization.
I think the doctors in our children's hospital follow protocol, and if Bonnie Henry says children should get vaccinated then that's what they are supposed to say. Anyone that says otherwise is judged.
No they aren't. There was a doctor on TV this evening that basically said, each child's case is different, some kids have risk factors where a parent might want them to be vaccinated. Surely even you can understand that.
4400 Canadian kids under age 12 hospitalized due to covid, is not nothing. Some parents have been waiting a long time for this vaccine to protect their youngest children. I can't imagine why you would care if they do.
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It's gone too far ..

It's too soon ...

All the other kiddie jabs have been tried , tested and approved over DECADES . Not this one ..

Enough..
4400 Canadian kids under age 12 hospitalized due to covid, is not nothing. Some parents have been waiting a long time for this vaccine to protect their youngest children. I can't imagine why you would care if they do
How many died vs. how many will get a natural immunity ?

Got those numbers yet ??

Nope .
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MAPearce wrote: Jul 14th, 2022, 11:20 pm It's gone too far ..

It's too soon ...

All the other kiddie jabs have been tried , tested and approved over DECADES . Not this one ..

Enough..
4400 Canadian kids under age 12 hospitalized due to covid, is not nothing. Some parents have been waiting a long time for this vaccine to protect their youngest children. I can't imagine why you would care if they do
How many died vs. how many will get a natural immunity ?

Got those numbers yet ??

Nope .
Where do you get the evidence that supports your false and misinformation. Your word is worthless and nobody believes you.

Either put up the evidence to support your claims or shut up.
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marbles1979 wrote: Jul 14th, 2022, 5:51 pm How do you know the vaccine doesn't interfere at all with a child's immunity system?
Known amount of viral spike bad. Self repricating virus creating larger amount of proteins perfectly fine.

Why is your immune system so poor you're terrified of a small quantity? The virus will give you a much bigger dose and send your immune system running back to mommy.
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Wayyyy back in the pandemic it was noted that some frontline doctors who were intubating covid patients got much sicker than other workers with a slight or passing exposure. So the idea of the vaccine is to introduce a tiny bit of mRNA to get an immune response from the person's OWN normal immune system, to ready it for the possible exposure to the real virus in the real world. What an elegant plan! With young children and infants it's an even tinier dose, but similar idea.
Since it IS the natural immune system which is being gently primed and prodded to prepare with the vaccine, how can this be worse than a full on exposure by friend or family in huge repeated doses?
Antivaxxers want to pretend that the natural immune system is not involved in vaccinated immunity. AND that any bad effects from it will last for years, but the Good effects disappear in weeks. All this defied logic and is NOT based on fact.
The immune system still will fight the virus if exposed, and kids WILL be exposed. But being prepared ahead of time with the vaccine just helps kids avoid the worst outcomes (like hospitalization, MIS-C, death). Millions and millions of young kids have had the vaccine by now. If there were terrible things happening, I'm sure everyone of those parents would go running to the media (as they should), and would tell the world. Where are all these actual parents? I don't mean biased doctors like What's his name her in B.c. who claimed that a dozen miscarriages happened in Vancouver (they did not). Or that other doctor who claimed he had all kinds of problems with the vaccine(but no patients to prove it). How come all the other doctors aren't seeing these problems, just one or two select and very biased individuals? Anti-vaxxers have yet to explain why, after BILLIONS of doses, MILLIONS of pediatric doses, there seem to be very rare, if any serious side effects for little kids?
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alanjh595 wrote: Jul 15th, 2022, 5:02 am
MAPearce wrote: Jul 14th, 2022, 11:20 pm It's gone too far ..

It's too soon ...

All the other kiddie jabs have been tried , tested and approved over DECADES . Not this one ..

Enough..



How many died vs. how many will get a natural immunity ?

Got those numbers yet ??

Nope .
Where do you get the evidence that supports your false and misinformation. Your word is worthless and nobody believes you.

Either put up the evidence to support your claims or shut up.
Where do you get your evidence that there will be no long term devastating consequences to jabbing infants ? .At this juncture you can't plain and simple.

So ,It's NOT misinformation. Jab an infant today and wait is all the information anyone has at this point
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MAPearce wrote: Jul 15th, 2022, 9:12 am
alanjh595 wrote: Jul 15th, 2022, 5:02 am

Where do you get the evidence that supports your false and misinformation. Your word is worthless and nobody believes you.

Either put up the evidence to support your claims or shut up.
Where do you get your evidence that there will be no long term devastating consequences to jabbing infants ? .At this juncture you can't plain and simple.

So ,It's NOT misinformation. Jab an infant today and wait is all the information anyone has at this point
The tech has been studied for decades. Your constant lying is getting old.
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MAPearce wrote: Jul 15th, 2022, 9:12 am
alanjh595 wrote: Jul 15th, 2022, 5:02 am
Where do you get the evidence that supports your false and misinformation. Your word is worthless and nobody believes you.

Either put up the evidence to support your claims or shut up.
Where do you get your evidence that there will be no long term devastating consequences to jabbing infants ? .At this juncture you can't plain and simple.

So ,It's NOT misinformation. Jab an infant today and wait is all the information anyone has at this point
Let us know then, when 4400 kids get hospitalized from the vaccine. Until then, the evidence is millions and millions of children vaccinated with out harm.
650 kids in ICU. Let us know.
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Reported COVID-19 cases among children spiked dramatically in 2022 during the Omicron variant winter surge, peaking at 1,150,000 cases reported in one week. For the week ending July 7th, nearly 68,000 child COVID-19 cases were reported, a decrease from the reported cases added the prior week. Reported new child cases have decreased substantially since the Omicron peak, at the same time, child cases are far higher than one year ago, July 8, 2021, when 19,500 child cases were reported.
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Silverstarqueen wrote: Jul 15th, 2022, 8:32 am Wayyyy back in the pandemic it was noted that some frontline doctors who were intubating covid patients got much sicker than other workers with a slight or passing exposure. So the idea of the vaccine is to introduce a tiny bit of mRNA to get an immune response from the person's OWN normal immune system, to ready it for the possible exposure to the real virus in the real world. What an elegant plan! With young children and infants it's an even tinier dose, but similar idea.
Since it IS the natural immune system which is being gently primed and prodded to prepare with the vaccine, how can this be worse than a full on exposure by friend or family in huge repeated doses?
Antivaxxers want to pretend that the natural immune system is not involved in vaccinated immunity. AND that any bad effects from it will last for years, but the Good effects disappear in weeks. All this defied logic and is NOT based on fact.
The immune system still will fight the virus if exposed, and kids WILL be exposed. But being prepared ahead of time with the vaccine just helps kids avoid the worst outcomes (like hospitalization, MIS-C, death). Millions and millions of young kids have had the vaccine by now. If there were terrible things happening, I'm sure everyone of those parents would go running to the media (as they should), and would tell the world. Where are all these actual parents? I don't mean biased doctors like What's his name her in B.c. who claimed that a dozen miscarriages happened in Vancouver (they did not). Or that other doctor who claimed he had all kinds of problems with the vaccine(but no patients to prove it). How come all the other doctors aren't seeing these problems, just one or two select and very biased individuals? Anti-vaxxers have yet to explain why, after BILLIONS of doses, MILLIONS of pediatric doses, there seem to be very rare, if any serious side effects for little kids?
You do realize that the majority of all severe covid were with individuals with uncompromised immunity systems?
The term you state, "normal immune system" is the obvious, proven benchmark as to who is vulnerable to covid.
So yes, all those that have a "normally" vulnerable and weak immune system should take as many vaccine's as possible.
Also the understanding of your own dangerous situation due to your own immune system should be taken far more seriously. Not just telling people they are in a secure and better position because of the vaccine. They could, as proven, still be far more dangerous to themselves and the rest of us than someone with a healthy immunity system and not even vaccinated.
Also, there is a big difference of supporting ones own belief that this vaccine is totally safe if its based on a personal need to have to have it. Of course you'll see it as OK.
Most drugs take years to actually understand its true safety. The data around Pfizer's drugs still hasn't been released to the scientist to study. Some do not eat potatoe chips because they see them as unhealthy in the very long run. Why is that so hard to allow others their own decision. Many people are addressing all the known medical conditions that actually make you vulnerable, instead of doing nothing and talking about the vaccine on the behalf of others. It at no time means they are ignoring the best healthy protection from severe covid. In fact, people relying on only the vaccine and eliminating any other discussion of how we can help save our family members through proven health are actually the ones in the wrong.
One very important finding has come out over the last 2 years. Our societies poor health conditions due to the very same covid related conditions, have done only one thing,
Increased.
We have failed to address and take account of the exact reasons you are vulnerable to covid. We ignored them, refused them and now are still sitting here listening to many that see nothing of health but a manufactured vaccine as your future.
Good luck, I'll put being serious to my and my families future well being in the hands of understand a healthy lifestyle verses pfizer and a sync. drug only needed if you ignore your own "normal immune system".
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This is key to Pfizers Q3/Q4 sales targets. I wish people would take this more seriously, profits are at stake!!

If we actually gave a rats *bleep* about kidz then we would upgrade ventilation systems in schools and all the other NPIs vs. Jab jab jab.

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