B.C. Election 2013

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^And a stunning number of people have been brainwashed into the fearmongering and the dire predictions that some people bring forth re: the NDP, i.e., "Oh, they will tax you to death." "The unions RUN the NDP." "Back in the 1990s people had to eat roof rats and grub for nut and berries." BLAH, BLAH, BLAH....
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I agree with Steven. Not the best but much better than what we have or are likely to have. At least they have to show up for work and discuss things. That would be a shock for the current Liberals.
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LoneWolf_53 wrote:There's far more blatant criminal activities that stem from the NDP camp than the Liberal one.

NAB wrote: I think therein is a fundamental point of contention, ...

I know – what’s worse:

- Back-dating a memo or using $6 million in taxpayers hard earned (and easily spent) money to pay off convicted felons to prevent testimony by key party members and obstruct Supreme Court process?

- Forget paying for a Skytrain ticket or forget it is illegal to drive drunk, even in Hawaii?

- And on and on it can go ...
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Smurf wrote: At least they have to show up for work and discuss things.

What a concept. It'd almost be like working for a living.
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there is ONE good thing coming from this election, well maybe two....

the obvious one is the liberals wont be in power (dictatorship) to do the bidding of their corporate masters at the expense of the voters

the MSM will rekindle their journalistic integrity they lost for the past 12 years and hold the government accountable!
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LoneWolf_53 wrote:There's far more blatant criminal activities that stem from the NDP camp than the Liberal one.


NAB wrote: I think therein is a fundamental point of contention, ...


steven lloyd wrote:I know – what’s worse:

- Back-dating a memo or using $6 million in taxpayers hard earned (and easily spent) money to pay off convicted felons to prevent testimony by key party members and obstruct Supreme Court process?

- Forget paying for a Skytrain ticket or forget it is illegal to drive drunk, even in Hawaii?

- And on and on it can go ...


So you choose to respond in third terms that even the 2 option statement doesn't contemplate : - (

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NAB wrote: So you choose to respond in third terms that even the 2 option statement doesn't contemplate

Can you ask that question in plain speak ?
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What question was that ?

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LoneWolf_53 wrote: There's far more blatant criminal activities that stem from the NDP camp than the Liberal one.

NAB wrote: I think therein is a fundamental point of contention, although in reading that statement it obviously can be taken one of two ways. The reader of course is left struggling with which way to take it, thus which of the two possible allegations to respond to. Nab

NAB wrote: So you choose to respond in third terms that even the 2 option statement doesn't contemplate

What are you talking about ???


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LoneWolf_53 wrote: There's far more blatant criminal activities that stem from the NDP camp than the Liberal one.


NAB wrote: I think therein is a fundamental point of contention, although in reading that statement it obviously can be taken one of two ways. The reader of course is left struggling with which way to take it, thus which of the two possible allegations to respond to. Nab


NAB wrote: So you choose to respond in third terms that even the 2 option statement doesn't contemplate


steven lloyd wrote:What are you talking about ???


That's what I am trying to figure out obviously.

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flamingfingers wrote:I think we have only seen the very tip of the iceberg with regard to Campbell/Clark/Liberal malfeasance and breach of trust these past 12+ years.



That's just the hate talkin'. You want it to be true. Yet, it's baseless.

Wanting and wishing some ill on the Liberals does nothing to erase Dix's record of criminal transgressions, unfortunately.
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Since the campaign started, has anything of significance uttered or proposed by Christy Clark actually been based on actual facts?

Christy Clark continues her “say anything” campaign

April 29, 2013
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How does she do it?

That’s what I think every time I see a clip of B.C. Liberal leader Christy Clark on TV. After 20 years working in politics and around politicians, having heard and doled out my share of spin, even I am amazed by her ability to continue to spout the same half-truths day after day with a straight face.

The media has tried to correct her and the B.C. Liberal campaign’s constant propensity to mislead people. In reality check after reality check, news organizations including CBC News, CKNW and Canadian Press have found the party’s facts to be lacking.

Voters were served another round of the “say anything” campaign when Clark appeared on the CKNW radio debate.

Clark said she has spending “under control,” when we know that her government has been racking up the debt faster than any government in B.C. history. She claimed her government is about “lowering taxes,” while they raised both income and corporate taxes in their 2013 budget. She repeatedly claimed that her B.C. Jobs Plan is working, when Statistics Canada says B.C. has the second-worst job growth rate in Canada.

After the debate, she went toe-to-toe with journalists in a scrum, arguing that bond agencies have said that “the Liberal budget is balanced,” when she knows full well that the Dominion Bond Rating Service said they expect the B.C. Liberal budget to have a $1.7 billion deficit.

The saddest part of all of this, of course, is that this kind of calculated spin is the kind of thing that turns people off from the political process. In an age when we are trying to keep voter turn out from dropping below 50 per cent, we should expect better from our politicians.

The B.C. Liberals are, of course, continuing to make false claims because, after 12 years in power, they seem to be out of ideas. These misleading campaign missives will no doubt just reinforce the feeling many people have that the Clark administration “say anything” approach is more about campaigning than about governing. The voters will have the last say as to whether or not their strategy is working on May 14.


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^^ You've never found one thing positive to say about Christy Clark . . . ever . . . so for you the answer to your question is NO. To those of us who have truly listened to what's been said during the campaign the answer is YES. You told us she would be demolished by Dix in the debate(s) and that did not happen. Quite the opposite and she has acquitted herself exceedingly well during this campaign. Even many who plan to vote NDP would acknowledge that she has won the campaign hands down over Dix. His campaign has truly been one of the worst campaigns I've ever seen. If the NDP does come out on top come Tuesday it will be by a much smaller margin than it would have been if Dix had run a good campaign and Clark a poor one. Kudos to her.
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Since the campaign started, has anything of significance uttered or proposed by Christy Clark actually been based on actual facts?
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Thanks for quoting David Schreck of the NDP to "prove" your point. Which only proves my point of course. As I say, Christy Clark has run a terrific campaign and only the rabid NDP partisans would be so lacking in grace as to not even acknowledge that.

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