10 Reasons Flu Shots More Dangerous Than Flu

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Fancy wrote:You are the one that brought up the topic. Some people can't afford to get the flu.
The take the flu shot and deal with any potential consequences that arrive from injecting foreign substances into your body. It is safer to take care of your body with healthy lifestyle choices and avoid chemical substitutes.
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You have totally missed the point - so many die that don't need to and I'd rather protect the children.
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From Thinktank's link:
But for healthy individuals, the CDC recommends that all health care personnel, students in training for those professions, and other high-risk groups such as employees of assisted living communities be vaccinated against the influenza virus.
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However, women who contracted flu within the first four weeks of giving birth had a more than four-fold increased risk of death during pandemic influenza.
http://life.nationalpost.com/2013/08/27 ... ess-study/
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One thing the experts don't tell us - is how continually injecting new flu vaccines with other
harmful ingredients into people's bloodstream - that were never tested long term - the experts
don't tell us where these thousands of new 'rare diseases' are coming from.

Could all these rare diseases be coming from the needle? (vaccines)

A disease or disorder is defined as rare in Europe when it affects less than 1 in 2000. One rare disease may affect only a handful of patients in the EU, and another touch as many as 245,000.
There are between 6000 and 8000 rare diseases. On the whole, rare diseases may affect 30 million European Union citizens. 80% of rare diseases are of genetic origin, and are often chronic and life-threatening.
WHEN WILL WESTERN WAR PIGS WIND THIS UKRAINIAN GENOCIDE DOWN?????????????

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FDA approves new seasonal influenza vaccine made using novel technology
The U.S. Food and Drug Administration today announced that it has approved Flublok, the first trivalent influenza vaccine made using an insect virus (baculovirus) expression system and recombinant DNA technology. Flublok is approved for the prevention of seasonal influenza in people 18 through 49 years of age.
http://www.fda.gov/NewsEvents/Newsroom/ ... 335891.htm

Eric Chen became the Google Science Fair’s grand-prize winner using computer technology to help find new treatments against influenza. That was just recently too.
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Thinktank wrote:Could all these rare diseases be coming from the needle? (vaccines)
No. The bulk have genetic origins according to your post.

Back to the flu:

http://www.flu.gov/pandemic/research#
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Per article :
The flu is serious," he tells us from his website. "Every year, between 2,000 and 8,000 Canadians die of the flu and its complications."
Did you ever wonder how they know that? The fact is, they don't know that. "This is a scientific guess. This is not the truth," Dr. Michael Gardam, director of the infection prevention and control unit at the University Health Network in Toronto and a longtime flu watcher, told me.
The "2,000 to 8,000" numbers are based on computer models — a statistical guess that comes out of the end of a mathematical formula that makes a range of assumptions about death and flu.
Click on the video at the beginning.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/health/flu-death ... -1.1127442
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Fancy wrote:No. The bulk have genetic origins according to your post.
I'm thinking all these new rare diseases have origins from vaccines.
Of course there's no 'official' link from the 'experts' who earn their money
working for the multi $billion dollar pharmaceutical industry. I just figured
it out by myself.

I hope everyone on catanet knows they can figure things our for themselves?
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Fancy wrote:You have totally missed the point - so many die that don't need to and I'd rather protect the children.
How many children died from the flu ?
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Thinktank wrote:I'm thinking all these new rare diseases have origins from vaccines.
There is zero information to back up that opinion but I wonder how many of those that acquire these rare genetic diseases actually received the flu vaccine.
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SmokeOnTheWater wrote:How many children died from the flu ?
One is one too many.

CDC reported during the 2012-2013 influenza season, there were more than 150 flu-related pediatric deaths.
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Ten reasons to get the flu vaccine By Dr. Upton Allen, Chief, Division of Infectious Diseases

As a health-care worker, I can think of many important reasons why I will get the influenza vaccine, but I cannot think of a single reason why I shouldn’t.

1.Anyone can get seriously ill from influenza (the flu).
2.The flu can lead to hospitalization and sometimes even death.
3.Even people with strong immune systems can have severe outcomes from the flu.
4.You can get the flu from anyone, including patients and co-workers.
5.If you get the flu, you can spread it to others even if you don’t feel sick.
6.By getting vaccinated, you are helping to protect yourself, your family, and your patients from the flu.
7.If you transmit the flu to patients, some of them will have severe outcomes because of underlying medical conditions.
8.Some vulnerable patients and young infants cannot mount an adequate immune response to the flu vaccine. In order to protect them, we have to vaccinate those around them – the so called “cocoon strategy.”
9.The most common side-effects from the vaccine are usually mild and transient.
10.Preventing severe influenza is always much better than trying to cure influenza illness.
Considering these reasons, getting the flu vaccine is simply the right thing for health-care workers to do.

Each year across North America, several healthy individuals become seriously ill from the flu, sometimes with devastating outcomes. It is well recognized that the flu can be a serious illness that can lead to hospitalization and sometimes even death among people with normal immune systems. Each year the virus changes and one cannot predict how the immune system will react to the circulating strain of the virus. The annual influenza vaccine is the best way to ensure that our immune systems are best prepared to fight the flu. Vaccination also lessens the chances that health-care workers will spread the influenza virus to others, including patients, family members and friends. Health-care workers can get the flu from anyone, including patients and co-workers who are sick with the flu. Indeed, some people can spread the flu even if they do not feel sick.

Patients in children’s hospitals are particularly vulnerable due to their age and underlying health. Some of these patients cannot be vaccinated because they are too young to get the vaccine. Others are not able to benefit from the vaccine due to weakened immune systems. Unvaccinated health-care workers who work in these hospitals are more likely to transmit infection to these vulnerable infants and children than their vaccinated colleagues.

There are two types of flu vaccines. One is given as a nasal spray and contains live attenuated (weakened) strains of influenza viruses. The other, which is being used at SickKids, is an inactivated vaccine. It is given as an injection and only contains killed, non-infectious viruses, and therefore one cannot get the flu from this vaccine. The most common symptoms associated with the vaccine are transient soreness at the injection site and a mild fever. The complications that could result from influenza illness are of much greater concern.

While the flu vaccine is the single best way to prevent the flu, protection is not 100 per cent and some people can still get the flu after being vaccinated. In these situations, illness is often mild because of some protection provided by the vaccine. How well the flu vaccine prevents influenza illness depends on who is being vaccinated. In general, young healthy adults and older children have the best response to the flu vaccine. It takes about two weeks after vaccination for antibodies to develop in the body and provide protection against influenza virus infection. In the meantime, you are still at risk for getting the flu. This means that it’s better to get vaccinated early in the fall, before the flu season gets under way.

I strongly recommend the flu vaccine for my fellow health-care workers. I sincerely believe that it is by far the best way for us to protect ourselves, our patients and our family from the flu.
http://www.sickkids.ca/AboutSickKids/Ne ... ccine.html
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Fancy why so fearful ?
Do you drive ? Do you walk ?
You have more chance of dying in a car accident or getting hit by a car while crossing the street than dying from the flu.
My parents are both in their 90's and never once got a flu shot.
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SmokeOnTheWater wrote:Fancy why so fearful ?
Do you drive ? Do you walk ?
You have more chance of dying in a car accident or getting hit by a car while crossing the street than dying from the flu.
My parents are both in their 90's and never once got a flu shot.
Fear but fear itself.
LOL - how in the world are you getting that I am fearful? Not at all and this isn't about me now is it. Though I do wonder why you are bringing up dying. Posting facts and information is fearful? I would think it's the other way around. And I do think that saying is silly (fear but fear itself). Really, get informed.

The vaccines are meant to protect people - especially those with other health issues.
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