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Well to get back to topic - how about this little eye opener:
“2020 is not a ‘normal’ year to compare with,” Garrett said.
https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-818000433358
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Fancy wrote: Oct 12th, 2021, 10:36 am Well to get back to topic - how about this little eye opener:
“2020 is not a ‘normal’ year to compare with,” Garrett said.
https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-818000433358
YES in deed, that is an interesting article that debunks some of faction.
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Fancy wrote: Oct 12th, 2021, 10:36 am Well to get back to topic - how about this little eye opener:
“2020 is not a ‘normal’ year to compare with,” Garrett said.
https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-818000433358
What about the data that shows 7 out of 10 covid deaths in the UK are fully vaccinated? This is relevant data and after the 3rd booster wears off in Israel, I am betting things will get even worse. After every dose, things get worse. My opinion is that they want 100% vaccinated so they can cover up the vaccine damage by saying that a New strain is so much stronger and that's why everyone is dying. trying to cover up their crimes. Just my opinion and it also makes sense. But I guess since my opinion has been accurate, this is not a good thing. Being correct during this is a bad thing. Nothing to celebrate and I just wish I had the power to stop the crimes on children. I really hope a miracle happens. Pfizer knows the damage is worse with children.... Why can't they leave the kids alone..
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Kelownamade wrote: Oct 12th, 2021, 7:57 pm
Fancy wrote: Oct 12th, 2021, 10:36 am Well to get back to topic - how about this little eye opener:
https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-818000433358
What about the data that shows 7 out of 10 covid deaths in the UK are fully vaccinated? This is relevant data and after the 3rd booster wears off in Israel, I am betting things will get even worse. After every dose, things get worse. My opinion is that they want 100% vaccinated so they can cover up the vaccine damage by saying that a New strain is so much stronger and that's why everyone is dying. trying to cover up their crimes. Just my opinion and it also makes sense. But I guess since my opinion has been accurate, this is not a good thing. Being correct during this is a bad thing. Nothing to celebrate and I just wish I had the power to stop the crimes on children. I really hope a miracle happens. Pfizer knows the damage is worse with children.... Why can't they leave the kids alone..
What about those teen deaths, which, btw had nothing to do with the vaccine?
"However, multiple experts confirmed to The Associated Press that there have been no deaths associated with this side effect, nor with the COVID-19 vaccines in general, among teenagers in the U.K.

“There are no deaths in U.K. teenagers known to be caused by the COVID-19 vaccines,” said Dr. Michael Head, senior research fellow at the University of Southampton. “The risks of serious adverse events, such as myocarditis, are known to be very low after vaccination but far more common and more serious after a COVID-19 infection.”

As for the 60% of covid deaths in u.k. fully vaccinated, sorry to burst your bubble.
https://www.reuters.com/article/factche ... SL1N2P31UK

Children can die of covid too, more are hospitalized but generally survive.
https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/her-10 ... 32846.html

Children in hospital in ketucky, UNvaccinated.
https://www.wave3.com/2021/10/11/doctor ... tType=apps
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Kelownamade wrote: Oct 12th, 2021, 7:57 pm What about the data that shows 7 out of 10 covid deaths in the UK are fully vaccinated? ...
What data?
Out of more than 51,000 Covid deaths in England between January and July 2021, only 256 occurred after two doses.

They were mostly people at very high risk from illness from Covid-19.
BBC
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Fancy wrote: Oct 13th, 2021, 5:46 am
Kelownamade wrote: Oct 12th, 2021, 7:57 pm What about the data that shows 7 out of 10 covid deaths in the UK are fully vaccinated? ...
What data?
Out of more than 51,000 Covid deaths in England between January and July 2021, only 256 occurred after two doses.

They were mostly people at very high risk from illness from Covid-19.
BBC
So half of one percent of the covid deaths were fully vaccinated. That looks like the vaccines were not perfect.
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CLAIM: The rate of teenager deaths in the U.K. increased significantly from 2020 to 2021, coinciding with the timeline of when teenagers in the country began receiving COVID-19 vaccines.

AP’S ASSESSMENT: Missing context.
This claim is based on a flawed analysis of health data. It wrongly implies the COVID-19 vaccines caused teenagers to die when there is no evidence to support that. Experts said no known deaths among teenagers in the U.K. have been linked to COVID-19 vaccines.

THE FACTS: A website that has repeatedly spread COVID-19 misinformation in recent months is advancing a new misleading claim this week, this time about vaccines and teenagers.
https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-818000433358
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Kelownamade wrote: Oct 3rd, 2021, 7:04 pm https://dailysceptic.org/2021/10/01/dea ... out-began/

What excuse are you going to use for this? Covid... yes it is the Certificate Of Vaccination Identification that is causing the problems. Coercion is illegal.
See, the thing is we don't need excuses, we have facts. Delta has been hitting younger people since it first arrived. It just since Delta arrived that the rate has gone up.
On top of that, another fact stands in the way . Although the author tells us the number of deaths have gone up and the vaccination rate has tic'd up but not a lot, the fact they leave out is how many more teens are getting covid now that Delta is the number one cause of Covid. As I said above, it is well known that Delta is hitting younger people much harder.
Not once in that article doe the author mention the one factor that would explain it. The number of covid cases.
Here is a little snippet of a graph showing the rise in cases from early June.
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See how real facts destroy that argument? The number of cases went up exponentially and stayed up from exactly the time frame that the author of your article mentioned but of course left out pertinent facts. Then at the top of the graph you can see where the rise in cases leveled off thanks to the vaccine and other measures.

The above graph came from worldmeters.com under UK.
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butcher99 wrote: Oct 14th, 2021, 1:24 pm
Kelownamade wrote: Oct 3rd, 2021, 7:04 pm https://dailysceptic.org/2021/10/01/dea ... out-began/

What excuse are you going to use for this? Covid... yes it is the Certificate Of Vaccination Identification that is causing the problems. Coercion is illegal.
See, the thing is we don't need excuses, we have facts. Delta has been hitting younger people since it first arrived. It just since Delta arrived that the rate has gone up.
On top of that, another fact stands in the way . Although the author tells us the number of deaths have gone up and the vaccination rate has tic'd up but not a lot, the fact they leave out is how many more teens are getting covid now that Delta is the number one cause of Covid. As I said above, it is well known that Delta is hitting younger people much harder.
Not once in that article doe the author mention the one factor that would explain it. The number of covid cases.
Here is a little snippet of a graph showing the rise in cases from early June.

infected.jpg

See how real facts destroy that argument? The number of cases went up exponentially and stayed up from exactly the time frame that the author of your article mentioned but of course left out pertinent facts. Then at the top of the graph you can see where the rise in cases leveled off thanks to the vaccine and other measures.

The above graph came from worldmeters.com under UK.
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This guy nails it. Especially the last few minutes. And it’s not just vaccines for kids.


https://www.rebelnews.com/interview_ep ... s_for_kids
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Kelownamade wrote: Oct 12th, 2021, 7:57 pm
Fancy wrote: Oct 12th, 2021, 10:36 am Well to get back to topic - how about this little eye opener:



https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-818000433358
What about the data that shows 7 out of 10 covid deaths in the UK are fully vaccinated? This is relevant data and after the 3rd booster wears off in Israel, I am betting things will get even worse. After every dose, things get worse. My opinion is that they want 100% vaccinated so they can cover up the vaccine damage by saying that a New strain is so much stronger and that's why everyone is dying. trying to cover up their crimes. Just my opinion and it also makes sense. But I guess since my opinion has been accurate, this is not a good thing. Being correct during this is a bad thing. Nothing to celebrate and I just wish I had the power to stop the crimes on children. I really hope a miracle happens. Pfizer knows the damage is worse with children.... Why can't they leave the kids alone..


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What data?
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binky11 wrote: Oct 14th, 2021, 4:11 pm This guy nails it. Especially the last few minutes. And it’s not just vaccines for kids.


https://www.rebelnews.com/interview_ep ... s_for_kids
What is "it" what exactly does he nail? Just more right wing propaganda. Why are all these anti-vax sites all right wing?
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binky11 wrote: Oct 14th, 2021, 4:11 pm This guy nails it. ....
He nailed something:
In his email, Alexander directed the FDA’s attention to a paragraph which appeared to suggest a reduction in mean symptom duration in patients taking hydroxychloroquine, but the finding is described as “low certainty” and the paragraph ends by saying “there was no other benefit and there was apparent risk of adverse events.”
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