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Glacier wrote: Nov 3rd, 2021, 8:18 pm
rustled wrote: Nov 2nd, 2021, 3:29 pm It's entirely possible you are right about who infected him. I suppose you might even know for sure whether or not the vaccinated daughter was tested for covid... and the rest of his circle of contacts.

Cuz again: we're told the vaccinated are less likely to be symptomatic, less likely to know they're ill, less likely to be home sick in bed etc. ...
We got Covid from a fully vaccinated person. She was not careful, unlike her unvaccinated co-worker who was in isolation after exposure. The vaccinated person figured it was just a cold since she wasn't very sick, and most importantly, because she had been vaccinated.
And fortunately, since you were vaccinated, you will not likely end up in hospital. Isn't Canada great?
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Kelownamade wrote: Nov 3rd, 2021, 7:48 pm
foenix wrote: Nov 3rd, 2021, 7:42 pm

I'm pretty sure if one got "natural acquired immunity" from the alpha strain and got exposed to the Delta variant, it would be a similar result as the person that was vaxxed with the alpha strain. The body's immune system doesn't work like that but nice WILD guess, tho.........but it's a swing and a miss.
Where is the evidence of that? Can you show where the people who got covid twice are dying? That doesn't seem to be the evidence. Looks like a swing and a Grand Slammmm! There are scientists working on a solution for the damage the vaccines caused, they are trying to make a vaccine that will make the vaccinated return back to a normal unvaccinated person. This is going to cost us billions and add that to the cost of the lockdowns and vaccine programs. Wow, it's too bad we didn't just tell these people to go back to their islands and never return.
Vaccinated, fewer deaths than unvaccinated.
https://medicalxpress.com/news/2021-10- ... tions.html


Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine recipients had a mortality rate of 4.2 deaths per 1,000 vaccinated people per year after first dose, and 3.5 deaths after second dose.
The unvaccinated comparison group had a mortality rate of 11.1 deaths per 1,000 people per year.
Moderna COVID-19 vaccine recipients had 3.7 deaths per 1,000 people per year after the first dose, and 3.4 deaths after the second dose.
The unvaccinated comparison group had a mortality rate of 11.1 deaths per 1,000 people per year.
Johnson & Johnson COVID-19 vaccine recipients had 8.4 deaths per 1,000 people per year.
The unvaccinated comparison group had a mortality rate of 14.7 deaths per 1,000 people per year.
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Silverstarqueen wrote: Nov 3rd, 2021, 10:44 pm
Glacier wrote: Nov 3rd, 2021, 8:18 pm

We got Covid from a fully vaccinated person. She was not careful, unlike her unvaccinated co-worker who was in isolation after exposure. The vaccinated person figured it was just a cold since she wasn't very sick, and most importantly, because she had been vaccinated.
And fortunately, since you were vaccinated, you will not likely end up in hospital. Isn't Canada great?
A vaccinated person gets covid from a vaccinated person and is fortunate to not end up in the hospital, yet the point that the unvaccinated person followed proper protocol (isolation, at home, not in hospital) respectfully to all others goes unacknowledged? Classic mindset that is causing the greatest division in this great country.
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zookeeper wrote: Nov 3rd, 2021, 11:21 pm Classic mindset that is causing the greatest division in this great country.
You're pointing the fingers at the wrong people. The pandummies that fight every measure we take to save lives are the cause of the division.
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OKkayak wrote: Nov 3rd, 2021, 11:27 pm
zookeeper wrote: Nov 3rd, 2021, 11:21 pm Classic mindset that is causing the greatest division in this great country.
You're pointing the fingers at the wrong people. The pandummies that fight every measure we take to save lives are the cause of the division.
No we aren't. We know history and what evil powerful people are capable of. I mean we just saw Jeffrey Epstein get "suicided" in prison. A guy who blackmailed powerful people with child rape on his island. You guys are naive and endangering our lives and future. It's as if you guys think our criminal prime minister is a good guy....He was charged with rape or something in vancouver, he has been caught in many scandals, SNC Lavalin for one. "The great reset" Risky vaccines based upon fraudulent data. Throwing pastors in prison. This is such an obvious criminal event and punishing good doctors for speaking their minds, what is wrong with discussion? Why shouldn't there be open debate when we are talking about risking our lives with an unproven experimental vaccine. Jeez people. Time to wake up.
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zookeeper wrote: Nov 3rd, 2021, 11:21 pm
Silverstarqueen wrote: Nov 3rd, 2021, 10:44 pm
And fortunately, since you were vaccinated, you will not likely end up in hospital. Isn't Canada great?
A vaccinated person gets covid from a vaccinated person and is fortunate to not end up in the hospital, yet the point that the unvaccinated person followed proper protocol (isolation, at home, not in hospital) respectfully to all others goes unacknowledged? Classic mindset that is causing the greatest division in this great country.
It's normal, expected that an infected person would follow proper protocol.
And I know of examples where vaccinated or unvaccinated persons got covid from an unvaccinated person, just par for the course, in our work world these days. The fact remains that, due to the vaccine, far fewer people will end up with a serious case. Why would this cause division? Is there division? There certainly are people who insist on claiming that Canadians are divided, but I thought we were all against Covid, no?
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OKkayak wrote: Nov 3rd, 2021, 11:27 pm
zookeeper wrote: Nov 3rd, 2021, 11:21 pm Classic mindset that is causing the greatest division in this great country.
You're pointing the fingers at the wrong people. The pandummies that fight every measure we take to save lives are the cause of the division.
Amen. I don't know anyone that wants restrictions prolonged, increased, or more boosters to be needed, or another school shut down, or anyone else to end up in hospital. but not everyone is making their best effort to keep cases, and serious cases to a minimum. When we need masks, they say NO Masks, when we need social distancing, they say No way!. When we need vaccinations, it's NO Vaccinations! How about if they stop being so childish and just get with the program like 90% of the rest of us? Then surgeries have to be cancelled, it's the government's fault, they are trying to control us! And the piece de resistance, more people are dying from the vaccine than from Covid!
Give me a break.
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Silverstarqueen wrote: Nov 4th, 2021, 2:25 am
OKkayak wrote: Nov 3rd, 2021, 11:27 pm
You're pointing the fingers at the wrong people. The pandummies that fight every measure we take to save lives are the cause of the division.
Amen. I don't know anyone that wants restrictions prolonged, increased, or more boosters to be needed, or another school shut down, or anyone else to end up in hospital. but not everyone is making their best effort to keep cases, and serious cases to a minimum. When we need masks, they say NO Masks, when we need social distancing, they say No way!. When we need vaccinations, it's NO Vaccinations! How about if they stop being so childish and just get with the program like 90% of the rest of us? Then surgeries have to be cancelled, it's the government's fault, they are trying to control us! And the piece de resistance, more people are dying from the vaccine than from Covid!
Give me a break.
Incorrect. We want science based in truth, not political BS. Why are so many mayor and govenors/congress etc people getting caught not following the protocols? They have been caught pulling up masks just when the camera starts rolling. It's a joke. They are seeing how dumb we are. Lockdowns do not work and only destroy society. The WHO said this. Some people will never admit they were wrong and especially during this time. It's an emotional situation. People have taken an experimental injection and if they admit they took a poison, it will cause major mental distress.
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domain wrote: Nov 2nd, 2021, 4:36 pm
PoplarSoul wrote: Nov 2nd, 2021, 4:25 pm

Are you seriously comparing yourself to the 1930's European Jews?
Yes.

I can't fly, or take a passenger train.

I can't work, and I can't get EI if I get laid off.

I can't participate in the following:


Indoor ticketed sporting events with more than 50 people

Indoor concerts, theatre, dance and symphony events with more than 50 people

Licensed restaurants and cafes and restaurants and cafes that offer table service (indoor and patio dining)
Includes liquor tasting rooms in wineries, breweries or distilleries

Pubs, bars and lounges (indoor and patio dining)

Nightclubs, casinos and movie theatres

Gyms, exercise and dance facilities or studios, Includes these activities happening in recreation facilities
Businesses offering indoor exercise/fitness

Indoor adult group and team sports for people 22 years old or older

Indoor skating rinks

Indoor organized events with more than 50 people, such as weddings, funeral receptions (outside of a funeral home), organized parties, conferences, trade fairs and workshops

Indoor organized group recreational classes and activities with more than 50 people, such as pottery studios, art classes or choir rehearsals

Post-secondary student housing

Spectators at indoor youth sporting events

Unpaid supervisors, coaches and assistants of sports and group activities for people 21 years or younger


If you took a moment to search, you would see that life as an unvaccinated person in Canada has more in common with Jews in early 30's Eastern Europe than a modern day western nation.
ALL of those activities are not on my list of things that I do anyways. Haven't done them in many years, don't miss doing any of them ever.
I am fully vaccinated, I have my pass if I should ever need it, (haven't yet).

I am NOT living in the 1930's, and I am not Jewish. I don't feel short changed or discriminated, or even a minority visible or otherwise.

I know that I can do whatever I want, when I want with whomever I want. I will never be refused service or admittance to anywhere.

I enjoy the greatest freedom of any man, in any situation, in any country in the entire world. I will never have to justify my personal choices and/or decisions. My current biggest concerns are where, when, and what to eat and who to choose as my dinner companion.
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Silverstarqueen wrote: Nov 4th, 2021, 2:19 am
zookeeper wrote: Nov 3rd, 2021, 11:21 pm

A vaccinated person gets covid from a vaccinated person and is fortunate to not end up in the hospital, yet the point that the unvaccinated person followed proper protocol (isolation, at home, not in hospital) respectfully to all others goes unacknowledged? Classic mindset that is causing the greatest division in this great country.
It's normal, expected that an infected person would follow proper protocol.
And I know of examples where vaccinated or unvaccinated persons got covid from an unvaccinated person, just par for the course, in our work world these days. The fact remains that, due to the vaccine, far fewer people will end up with a serious case. Why would this cause division? Is there division? There certainly are people who insist on claiming that Canadians are divided, but I thought we were all against Covid, no?
Indeed, but many vaccinated think they are above that.
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Silverstarqueen wrote: Nov 3rd, 2021, 10:44 pm
Glacier wrote: Nov 3rd, 2021, 8:18 pm

We got Covid from a fully vaccinated person. She was not careful, unlike her unvaccinated co-worker who was in isolation after exposure. The vaccinated person figured it was just a cold since she wasn't very sick, and most importantly, because she had been vaccinated.
And fortunately, since you were vaccinated, you will not likely end up in hospital. Isn't Canada great?
Not great.

Vaccinated people can and do end up in hospital when they catch covid from a vaccinated person who is infectious. The vaccine status of the person who infected the people in hospital isn't recorded in the stats.

Continuing to downplay this does not make it go away. This vaccinated person was clearly a greater risk to those around her than her unvaccinated co-worker.
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zookeeper wrote: Nov 4th, 2021, 7:13 am
Silverstarqueen wrote: Nov 4th, 2021, 2:19 am
It's normal, expected that an infected person would follow proper protocol.
And I know of examples where vaccinated or unvaccinated persons got covid from an unvaccinated person, just par for the course, in our work world these days. The fact remains that, due to the vaccine, far fewer people will end up with a serious case. Why would this cause division? Is there division? There certainly are people who insist on claiming that Canadians are divided, but I thought we were all against Covid, no?
Indeed, but many vaccinated think they are above that.
And the bottom like is that in this case "proper protocol" did NOT prevent the vaccinated person with the infection from infecting others. We're likely to see more of this as people over-rely on vaccination and make similar assumptions about whether or not the vaccinated are infectious.

It seems to me with a lot of people indifferent to the risks of covid getting the vaccine strictly so they could continue to work, we'll see more people at work who aren't adequately concerned about whether or not their minor symptoms are from covid - going to work anyway.

Folk supporting the mandate seem to have lost interest in "stop the spread" - they obviously not interested in considering how the vaccinated are spreading it.

Being "against covid" has morphed into treating unvaccinated people like lepers regardless of whether or not they're infected, while turning a blind eye to the likelihood the vaccinated are spreading the infection. This is classic scapegoating, and IMO those engaging in it may find the hubris of their certainty at this time doesn't age well.
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Kelownamade wrote: Nov 3rd, 2021, 9:28 pm
OKkayak wrote: Nov 3rd, 2021, 8:44 pm
And why would we do that?

On no! A booster shot! Never had one of those before. :panic:
Not 6 months after 2 prior injections.
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Kelownamade wrote: Nov 3rd, 2021, 7:48 pm
foenix wrote: Nov 3rd, 2021, 7:42 pm

I'm pretty sure if one got "natural acquired immunity" from the alpha strain and got exposed to the Delta variant, it would be a similar result as the person that was vaxxed with the alpha strain. The body's immune system doesn't work like that but nice WILD guess, tho.........but it's a swing and a miss.
Where is the evidence of that? Can you show where the people who got covid twice are dying? That doesn't seem to be the evidence. Looks like a swing and a Grand Slammmm! There are scientists working on a solution for the damage the vaccines caused, they are trying to make a vaccine that will make the vaccinated return back to a normal unvaccinated person. This is going to cost us billions and add that to the cost of the lockdowns and vaccine programs. Wow, it's too bad we didn't just tell these people to go back to their islands and never return.
What are you writing about? Try researching how an immune response is triggered and the antibodies that are produced from it. That's just basic physiology.....and this.....another wild swing and a miss......
There are scientists working on a solution for the damage the vaccines caused, they are trying to make a vaccine that will make the vaccinated return back to a normal unvaccinated person
Sounds like another Qanon fable. Why in the world would scientists being doing that?.....that makes no sense at all. Remember, you guys keep telling us the effects from the vaccine wane over time anyway so if someone is interested in going back to "normal"....just wait it out. You're not going to need another vaccine to go back to "normal".
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They are just freely makin' stuff up now. Impossible to have a debate with flat out liars, no basis in reality at all. This is how desperate they have become.

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