Inconsistent COVID Rules

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Zedi
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Re: Inconsistent COVID Rules

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two wrote: Oct 25th, 2021, 10:29 pm
put-for-dough wrote: Oct 25th, 2021, 9:32 pm Interior Health has the highest un-vaccination rates among health care workers as well as managers of these facilities. There fore they are not big on enforcing the policies because they are anti-vaxxers. Death rates climb as well as hospitalization rates and ICU, and the people who have been vaccinated months ago are being brutalized because of others who are not vaccinated and this includes managers who are in charge of all IH facilities in the Central Okanagan.
Here a little picture show to explain your dilema:

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its really a shame you just proved Alex Jones of all people right.
This picture pretty much sums it up.
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Re: Inconsistent COVID Rules

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Zedi wrote: Oct 26th, 2021, 1:26 pm
Silverstarqueen wrote: Oct 25th, 2021, 6:40 pm
Why did I mention children? nothing to do with "scaring" people into anything. Nothing to do with how many children might be in hospital. Nothing to do with how many died. Nothinig to do with fear mongering. Just another example of the hysterical over-the-top reaction from people ove a conspiracy mind-set. What on earth does children having the flu have to do with this discussion?

We have been told all along that the number of cases in schools are a reflection of the numbers of cases in the community (not a reflection of hospitalizations or ICU). So I have noted that recently there are a lot of cases in schools, these kids aren't living in a bubble, it means the virus is circulating freely among families, which means it's turning up in all kinds of people who are not vaccinated, and even will turn up in some who ARE vaccinated. So we wonder why LTC homes are having more deaths. Why are there so many cases in schools? Should they be using more precautions as they did previously? Should we be vaccinating more kids to put a damper on this surge in schools? Are there teachers or administrators at risk who should work on a higher vaccination rate? Are there parents, teens, at home who are not vaccinated, who could be vaccinated, that is driving this spread? We think it's just old people getting serious cases of covid, but we are going to have more 40,50 year olds with covid, if kids are bringing it home and spreading it at school. Maybe it's an indication that restrictions need to stay on, until there are just fewer transmissions going on in general.
Kids are a non factor and the shot doesn't prevent transmission. Not a conspiracy, leave the kids alone. Injecting them will not save grandma who has been double vaxed. That argument makes zero sense, you are watching way to much mainstream with this type of regurgitation.
They are?......then how come we see stuff like this.....
Seventy young patients ended up in treatment at CHNO during the 30 days ending Aug. 23. Prior to this summer, the hospital had never had to care for more than seven COVID-19 patients at a time, and usually fewer than that; on any given day in August, that number has been at least in the mid-teens, enough that the facility had to call in a medical strike team from Rhode Island to help manage the surge.

CHNO isn’t alone. The extra-transmissible Delta variant has ushered in a new chapter of the pandemic. For the first time, pediatric hospitals are struggling to treat the number of young patients developing severe cases of COVID-19. A record high of more than 1,900 children were hospitalized nationwide on Aug. 14—and unlike during previous spikes, infections have so far been clustered largely in states with low vaccine coverage, meaning hospitals in undervaccinated states like Louisiana, Florida, Tennessee, Alabama and Texas are drowning. “Our hospital system across Alabama is beyond capacity. Last week we had net negative ICU beds, and that’s pediatric and adult together,” says Dr. David Kimberlin, co-director of the division of pediatric infectious diseases at Children’s of Alabama. “Doctors are doing CPR in the back of pickup trucks.”
https://time.com/6092446/pediatric-covid-19-surge/
two_shoes1mit
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Re: Inconsistent COVID Rules

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Silverstarqueen wrote: Oct 25th, 2021, 6:40 pm
Zedi wrote: Oct 25th, 2021, 2:44 pm

Why even mention children? They are pretty much a non issue with covid. how many children in the hospital? How many have died in the interior. Children fare worse from the flu than with covid. You are fear mongering like the media when you bring children into the conversation.
Why did I mention children? nothing to do with "scaring" people into anything. Nothing to do with how many children might be in hospital. Nothing to do with how many died. Nothinig to do with fear mongering. Just another example of the hysterical over-the-top reaction from people ove a conspiracy mind-set. What on earth does children having the flu have to do with this discussion?

We have been told all along that the number of cases in schools are a reflection of the numbers of cases in the community (not a reflection of hospitalizations or ICU). So I have noted that recently there are a lot of cases in schools, these kids aren't living in a bubble, it means the virus is circulating freely among families, which means it's turning up in all kinds of people who are not vaccinated, and even will turn up in some who ARE vaccinated. So we wonder why LTC homes are having more deaths. Why are there so many cases in schools? Should they be using more precautions as they did previously? Should we be vaccinating more kids to put a damper on this surge in schools? Are there teachers or administrators at risk who should work on a higher vaccination rate? Are there parents, teens, at home who are not vaccinated, who could be vaccinated, that is driving this spread? We think it's just old people getting serious cases of covid, but we are going to have more 40,50 year olds with covid, if kids are bringing it home and spreading it at school. Maybe it's an indication that restrictions need to stay on, until there are just fewer transmissions going on in general.
Remember back in the fall of 2019 and 2020................school children were used as the guinea pigs, so to speak. What was the speak of the day...................they young have strong immune systems, lets wait and see.

Fast forward to the fall of 2021............the teachers say they do not feel safe, not enough is being done to sanitize the facility, need more money.

For the past two years, I have observed that kids in middle school and sec. school, must wear masks, social distance, they are not assigned lockers - so they have to lug winter coats, boots and backpacks from class to class. Interesting note, when I picked up my child from school.............upon dismissal, hundreds of kids exit the school, converge on the steps, masks off, shoulder to shoulder, no distancing, no masks and there are anywhere from 75 - 100 milling around.
If it presents an issue of transmission, connect the dots.

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