Provinces consider allowing COVID-positive health workers to work
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Exactly lol. Spooker didn't answer the question, just gave out the usual "it's complicated" without addressing why it wouldn't be better to have healthy unvaccinated coming back to work over people even with mild symptoms. We already know the vaccine doesn't stop transmission now, so there is no logic here.SuperMom wrote: ↑Dec 30th, 2021, 12:57 pmBut if someone is infected, even with mild symptoms, there is still a good risk of passing the virus on to others. This is why they've closed gyms, reduced capacity at many venues, told us to limit our contacts and keep our holiday gatherings small. If we're doing these things to reduce transmission, then why do we want positively infected people working, especially in health care?spooker wrote: ↑Dec 30th, 2021, 11:53 am
There is no "blanket" answer given to all who test positive ... if someone needs to be resting at home they would do so ... if someone has such a mild case that it doesn't affect their performance and they are not creating a high risk situation for others then they "might" be allowed to come back to work ...
The logic seems to be missing if you try and generalize it ... it's not simple, they aren't saying it is ...
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^^ yup, there's zero logic to it, yet someone actually tried to explain it with a ?? answer ( Spooker) gotta say I am shocked that so many intelligent people are still defending these bizarre decisions/restrictions...always wonder when they will start saying or thinking what is going on here now ??rustled wrote: ↑Dec 30th, 2021, 12:33 pmI think we'd all appreciate it if someone could explain how it makes sense to allow people who ARE currently infected to work in health care, while refusing to allow people who are NOT currently infected to work in health care "because status".
There is no logic to it. There are, however, people trying to justify their own support of illogical public policy.
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Because government has being lying the entire time. That’s whySuperMom wrote: ↑Dec 30th, 2021, 12:57 pmBut if someone is infected, even with mild symptoms, there is still a good risk of passing the virus on to others. This is why they've closed gyms, reduced capacity at many venues, told us to limit our contacts and keep our holiday gatherings small. If we're doing these things to reduce transmission, then why do we want positively infected people working, especially in health care?spooker wrote: ↑Dec 30th, 2021, 11:53 am
There is no "blanket" answer given to all who test positive ... if someone needs to be resting at home they would do so ... if someone has such a mild case that it doesn't affect their performance and they are not creating a high risk situation for others then they "might" be allowed to come back to work ...
The logic seems to be missing if you try and generalize it ... it's not simple, they aren't saying it is ...
Just ask why they have allowed 10,000s of 10,000s inside costcos and Walmart while they shut down tiny yoga studio.
Just ask why grandma can’t come over for Turkey while Bonnie can ring the bell at a hockey came.
The rules are a farce and so is Covid
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We have been in a perfect storm for over aged population and a very un healthy society. There has been lots of videos for over a decade now. So a strong flu comes along. And the health care system won’t provide any at home solutions for Covid treatment. And Bammm
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Quit backtracking. You claimed that BC wasn’t considering doing this and it’s obvious you were wrong. Nobody’s trying to give a blanket statement they are telling you that it was being considered and you were wrongspooker wrote: ↑Dec 30th, 2021, 11:53 amBased on the OP's linked article BC wasn't considered in there ... this morning I did find coverage of it ...FreeSpirit4Ever wrote: ↑Dec 29th, 2021, 10:22 pm
Actually you are 110% wrong BC is indeed considering this and if you had watched the briefing this afternoon or watched global news or even read the article on Castanet as well that’s where the briefing was on Castanet today you would know that they are considering this in British Columbia. Unless of course you don’t think castanet is a good enough source.
The idea that a group of people breathing heavily in a small exercise room (not all wearing masks) is equatable to a much larger group all masked randomly passing by each other breathing normally is always funny to see someone try and push ... sort of like trying to say the same skill is used when bowling and playing pinball ...samsquench07 wrote: ↑Dec 30th, 2021, 10:57 am It’s about the same logic as Bonnie Henry shutting down a 5-10 person yoga studio while allowing 10,000 people gropping products inside Costco and Walmarts on a daily basis
She makes the rules and she needs them. Not what science says.
There is no "blanket" answer given to all who test positive ... if someone needs to be resting at home they would do so ... if someone has such a mild case that it doesn't affect their performance and they are not creating a high risk situation for others then they "might" be allowed to come back to work ...Sparki55 wrote: ↑Dec 30th, 2021, 10:10 am Why does it make more sense to have an infected healthcare worker who should be resting at home coming to work in a hospital before a healthy healthcare worker who tests negative without a vaccine?
I'm either a idiot who doesn't understand logic or we both find this illogical yet you're still following it. I'm open to the idea of learning something here if explained with reasons that reduce infection from hospitals.
The logic seems to be missing if you try and generalize it ... it's not simple, they aren't saying it is ...
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Okay then w/o naming specific names, how come none of the resident copy/paste experts from the pro-side have not voiced their opinions on the thread topic?? Just curious....
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^^ probably because they are tired of trying the defend something that's starting to not make sense ??
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LOL I have wondered the same thing. Those four OP seem to have disappeared. Hmmmmm. We knew the tables would turn, we just didn’t know exactly how long that was going to take. The tables have turned. Bon bon took it too far even for them. The lies are being exposed at alarming rates now. And it’s about time.
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BC Considers allowing COVID-positive health care staff to work
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british- ... -1.6300332
So lets get this straight: The government says it okay for vaccinated but infected healthcare staff to work. But its not okay for an uninfected unvaccinated staff member to work. That is some real *bleep* logic right there. And you wonder why people distrust the government
So lets get this straight: The government says it okay for vaccinated but infected healthcare staff to work. But its not okay for an uninfected unvaccinated staff member to work. That is some real *bleep* logic right there. And you wonder why people distrust the government
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Ontario is doing it already. The stupidity of our leaders these days is astounding.bonnie_henry72 wrote: ↑Dec 31st, 2021, 9:45 am as.PNG
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british- ... -1.6300332
So lets get this straight: The government says it okay for vaccinated but infected healthcare staff to work. But its not okay for an uninfected unvaccinated staff member to work. That is some real *bleep* logic right there. And you wonder why people distrust the government
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As far as the unvaxxed healthcare workers being fired.... if one of the reason for employment is to be vaccinated and they don't, at least they know why they are out on the street. It's similar to showing one's vaccine record to go to a university, if you don't provided, no uni.....see how that works? As far as Quebec bring back Covid positive healthcare workers on a case by case....sure looks logical to me, ESPECIALLY, when we are finding that the Omicron isn't as deadly........treat the Omicron like a common flu like all the unvaxxed have been saying....
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal ... -1.6299204Quebec's health minister announced on Tuesday that some health-care workers in the province who have tested positive for COVID-19 or come in close contact with a confirmed case may remain on the job to protect hospital capacity.
The province plans on extending the policy to all essential workers in the coming days and weeks. Health Minister Christian Dubé said the decision was made as a form of "risk management" as the health-care system experiences thousands of COVID-related absences.
Quebec's public health director, Dr. Horacio Arruda, who accompanied Dubé at the news conference, said the Health Ministry has devised an "order of priority" to guide managers in deciding who can stay at work and who should isolate.
As an example, Arruda said a worker with few or no symptoms could be assigned to an area where there are patients who are also COVID-positive. Another example would be a worker whose family member has tested positive but who has not yet received a positive result themselves.
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Some folk will continue defending the indefensible.
There's no logic to allowing covid-positive health care workers to work while still banning people who do not have covid "because status".
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It's called condition of employment.....and choices. They made their choice to be out on the street....now that is defending the indefensible.
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So is the Omicron as deadly as the Delta? Haven't the unvaxxed been saying treat it like the common cold?.....now it seems the health authorities are doing just that.....so now the whining is about the health authorities agreeing with the unvaxxed logic?Nedroj wrote: ↑Dec 31st, 2021, 9:56 amOntario is doing it already. The stupidity of our leaders these days is astounding.bonnie_henry72 wrote: ↑Dec 31st, 2021, 9:45 am as.PNG
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british- ... -1.6300332
So lets get this straight: The government says it okay for vaccinated but infected healthcare staff to work. But its not okay for an uninfected unvaccinated staff member to work. That is some real *bleep* logic right there. And you wonder why people distrust the government