College of Physicians and Surgeons of Ontario suggests unvaxxed be diagnosed with mental illness and put on meds

[ChocolateNecessary91]

Source: https://twitter.com/PaulMitchell_AB/sta ... y_iwA&s=19

[nucksRnum1]

Why not? When women acted emotionally and without sanity in Victorian times - we locked them up and gave them lobotomies. Sounds like this could work....

[Thinktank]

Why not?

And yet 90% of the pro-vaxxers here just old Bonnie Henry to shove the booster shot where the sun doesn't shine - they
suddenly became "vaccine hesitant." And these two dosers that were crazy-fanatical about vaccines a year ago, will not get that booster shot - ever. Not even for free lottery tickets or ice cream.




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[77TA]

Oh geez there's someone here that thinks it's ok to give emotional women a lobotomy. That's a bit disturbing.

[Silverstarqueen]

Why not?

And yet 90% of the pro-vaxxers here just old Bonnie Henry to shove the booster shot where the sun doesn't shine - they
suddenly became "vaccine hesitant." And these two dosers that were crazy-fanatical about vaccines a year ago, will not get that booster shot - ever. Not even for free lottery tickets or ice cream...

But they are not unvaxxed. So this is not about that. People who are vaccinated, are vaccinated. People who were fanatical about vaccines, didn't get one.

[Silverstarqueen]

Here is what the memo actually said (among many other issues related to covid patients)
"
Pandemic-Related Practice Issues
Patients are asking me to write notes supporting a medical exemption from COVID-19 vaccines — what do I need to know?

Patients may ask you to write notes or complete forms exempting them from getting vaccinated. If you are asked by your patient to provide information supporting a medical exemption from receiving a COVID-19 vaccine, your patient must have a legitimate medical condition that would warrant an exemption.

The National Advisory Committee on Immunization (NACI), the Ministry of Health, and some public health units have provided guidance regarding contraindications for COVID-19 vaccines. The Ministry of Health has also provided guidance about medical exemptions in the Medical Exemptions to COVID-19 Vaccination document, and guidance for specific allergy populations in the COVID-19 Vaccination: Allergy Form document.

Generally speaking, there are very few acceptable medical exemptions to the COVID-19 vaccination (examples include an allergist/immunologist-confirmed severe allergy or anaphylactic reaction to a previous dose of a COVID-19 vaccine or to any of its components that cannot be mitigated, or a diagnosed episode of myocarditis/pericarditis after receipt of an mRNA vaccine).

Given the rarity of these exceptions, and in light of the fact that vaccines have been proven to be both safe and effective, any notes written for patients who qualify for a medical exemption need to clearly specify:

the reason they cannot be vaccinated against COVID-19 (i.e., document clear medical information that supports the exemption); and
the effective time period for the medical reason (i.e., permanent or time-limited).
While physicians are generally required to complete third party medical reports for patients when requested, the circumstances of the pandemic support physicians declining to write notes or complete forms when the patient making the request does not have a medical condition that warrants an exemption. If you find yourself in this situation, clearly and sensitively explain to your patient that you cannot provide them with a note or form, along with the reasons why. 

It is also important that physicians work with their patients to manage anxieties related to the vaccine and not enable avoidance behaviour. For example, for extreme fear of needles (trypanophobia) or other cases of serious concern, responsible use of prescription medications and/or referral to psychotherapy may be available options. Overall, physicians have a responsibility to allow their patients to be properly informed about vaccines and not have those anxieties empowered by an exemption."
So medication MAY be an available option for patients who have extreme fear of needles. No where does it state that people who just don't feel like getting vaccination should need a prescription for their anxieties.
What the memo is saying: Doctors do not have to provide an exemption unless the patient meets the criteria.

[77TA]

And yet 90% of the pro-vaxxers here just old Bonnie Henry to shove the booster shot where the sun doesn't shine - they
suddenly became "vaccine hesitant." And these two dosers that were crazy-fanatical about vaccines a year ago, will not get that booster shot - ever. Not even for free lottery tickets or ice cream...

But they are not unvaxxed. So this is not about that. People who are vaccinated, are vaccinated. People who were fanatical about vaccines, didn't get one.

Without booster shots ex vax fanatics aren't vaccinated anymore, they just have useless spike proteins in their brains so no lobotomy needed.

[Silverstarqueen]

Source: https://twitter.com/PaulMitchell_AB/sta ... y_iwA&s=19

It's always preferrable to quote the original source, in context, rather than take the say-so of an anti-vaxxer in a 20 sec sound bite of blatant misinformation.

[Silverstarqueen]

But they are not unvaxxed. So this is not about that. People who are vaccinated, are vaccinated. People who were fanatical about vaccines, didn't get one.

Without booster shots ex vax fanatics aren't vaccinated anymore, they just have useless spike proteins in their brains so no lobotomy needed.

More misinformation. The vaccines are working very well for most people and are clearly long lasting or there would be alot more in hospital than what we have now. Certainly those at higher risk of serious outcomes, such as nursing home residents, and those seniors in the community, or anyone with underlying conditions, immunocompromised, or UNvaccinated should seek a booster when appropriate. Covid deaths are still wayyy down from the peaks, so vaccinations are working GREAT! Unfortunately there is no vaccine for most for RSV, so some children, and even some seniors could end up in hospital with that. Flu vaccines are an option for all ages, see your local pharmacist or doctor or online websites for more information.

[Silverstarqueen]

Why not?

And yet 90% of the pro-vaxxers here just old Bonnie Henry to shove the booster shot where the sun doesn't shine - they
suddenly became "vaccine hesitant." And these two dosers that were crazy-fanatical about vaccines a year ago, will not get that booster shot - ever. Not even for free lottery tickets or ice cream..

Oh please, where can I get free lottery tickets? I would definitely get more boosters for that!

[skydawg]

Without booster shots ex vax fanatics aren't vaccinated anymore, they just have useless spike proteins in their brains so no lobotomy needed.

More misinformation. The vaccines are working very well for most people and are clearly long lasting or there would be alot more in hospital than what we have now. Certainly those at higher risk of serious outcomes, such as nursing home residents, and those seniors in the community, or anyone with underlying conditions, immunocompromised, or UNvaccinated should seek a booster when appropriate. Covid deaths are still wayyy down from the peaks, so vaccinations are working GREAT! Unfortunately there is no vaccine for most for RSV, so some children, and even some seniors could end up in hospital with that. Flu vaccines are an option for all ages, see your local pharmacist or doctor or online websites for more information.

But you have zero proof that covid deaths are way down due to vax. It could just be that the covid virus just became much weaker over time as many experts in the filed predicted

[rustled]

Without booster shots ex vax fanatics aren't vaccinated anymore, they just have useless spike proteins in their brains so no lobotomy needed.

More misinformation. The vaccines are working very well for most people and are clearly long lasting or there would be alot more in hospital than what we have now.

Different punctuation would make that statement accurate, i.e.

• More misinformation: The vaccines are working very well for most people and are clearly long lasting or there would be alot more in hospital than what we have now.

As it stands in the quote itself, though, it's relying on correlation to prove causation.

Two of the factors we'd have to completely ignore to accept the premise as written in the quoted post:

1. The virus has mutated, as all viruses do, to increasingly a less dangerous strains.
2. With more people in the community already having had one iteration of the virus, there's greater community immunity.

I doubt any current research would show the vaccines we were given during the initial roll-out are still "working very well" for most people.

[Silverstarqueen]

More misinformation. The vaccines are working very well for most people and are clearly long lasting or there would be alot more in hospital than what we have now. Certainly those at higher risk of serious outcomes, such as nursing home residents, and those seniors in the community, or anyone with underlying conditions, immunocompromised, or UNvaccinated should seek a booster when appropriate. Covid deaths are still wayyy down from the peaks, so vaccinations are working GREAT! Unfortunately there is no vaccine for most for RSV, so some children, and even some seniors could end up in hospital with that. Flu vaccines are an option for all ages, see your local pharmacist or doctor or online websites for more information.

But you have zero proof that covid deaths are way down due to vax. It could just be that the covid virus just became much weaker over time as many experts in the filed predicted

"
Of the 2171 Victorians who have died from, or with, coronavirus to June 28 this year, 72 per cent had not had their third dose.

Only 3 per cent of those who died had been immunised with their fourth dose, while 37 per cent of deaths were among people who were not vaccinated at all, despite them representing less than four per cent of all Victorians aged over 12, data from the state’s health department shows.

Almost 70 percent, or 1514 coronavirus related deaths, from January 1 to June 28, were in Victorians aged over 80. The median age of those who died was 85.

Leading geriatrician Associate Professor Michael Murray said COVID-related deaths in aged care homes had now overtaken those in hospital intensive care units.

“We’re seeing more COVID-related deaths than the ICUs and disproportionately in culturally and linguistically diverse groups, particularly the Greek community, where the vaccination rate remains depressingly low,” Murray said.

Some of those who have died were partially unvaccinated due to their personal beliefs about COVID immunisation, but others had been advised by their adult children not to get vaccinated, Murray said."

The virus is less dangerous, for people who were vaccinated.

[captkirkcanada]

Sounds good to moi

[Silverstarqueen]

More misinformation. The vaccines are working very well for most people and are clearly long lasting or there would be alot more in hospital than what we have now.

Different punctuation would make that statement accurate, i.e.

• More misinformation: The vaccines are working very well for most people and are clearly long lasting or there would be alot more in hospital than what we have now.

As it stands in the quote itself, though, it's relying on correlation to prove causation.

Two of the factors we'd have to completely ignore to accept the premise as written in the quoted post:

1. The virus has mutated, as all viruses do, to increasingly a less dangerous strains.
2. With more people in the community already having had one iteration of the virus, there's greater community immunity.

I doubt any current research would show the vaccines we were given during the initial roll-out are still "working very well" for most people.

So you are saying, "there's more and more with community immunity", but not for those who were vaccinated? LOL
That's not even logical. Vaccination protected many many thousands from severe illness and death, so they could survive long enough to get "Natural immunity" in addition.
Killing off a certain percentage by failing to vaccinate, means those thousands of covid cases failing to acheive "natural immunity".