Vatican conclave - to elect a new pope

[Nebula]

http://www.vatican.va/various/cappelle/sistina_vr/index.html

Amazing is right. No graffiti!

[grammafreddy]

Yay smoke ,Its a pope! now who could it be .Ill bet whoever it is they will allow priests to get married , expose all the pedophiles and let gay people marry.Praise jebus and thanks be to god!

So you're not a Christian? I don't know why I thought you were.

Do all Christians believe in the pope?

[grammafreddy]

http://www.vatican.va/various/cappelle/sistina_vr/index.html

Amazing is right. No graffiti!

It truly is beautiful. And far more than "amazing". I was there when I was about 11 years old and even at that age it was unbelievable. I don't recall all the drapes, though, but can't remember what was there instead. More painting, perhaps? I think the Sistine Chapel was what left a lasting impression on me and influenced my interest in creating "art".

[Hmmm]

Do all Christians believe in the pope?

I don't believe any real Christian believes in the pope, however they also don't refer to Jesus in a mock term, which is what I was referring to.

[Nebula]

I don't believe any real Christian believes in the pope...

The 'my brand of Christianity is better than your brand' argument.

[Hmmm]

The 'my brand of Christianity is better than your brand' argument.

Its more of me, slamming the rc church whenever I can kinda thing. They truly disgust me.

[Poindexter]

Want to see something awesome?

http://www.vatican.va/various/cappelle/ ... index.html

Sistine Chapel 360 degree photo. Breathtakingly amazing.

That is amazing, being able to zoom in on everything allows you to take in each painting individually or even the mosiac patterns in floor for that matter. Could take a while to go through it all.. Very cool Captain..

Regarding the Vatican, it's the only multinational corporation that has it's own country, which can come in handy when laws are broken.

[gordon_as]

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The 'my brand of Christianity is better than your brand' argument.[/quote]

And therein lies the reason why I rejected Christianity when my wife's family tried to convert me.

Strangely enough I had a much higher opinion of Religion BEFORE they attempted to school me in it.

I had gone to nondenominational summer camps as a kid , and thought that god loved EVERYONE , not just certain folks.

[kibbs]

So you're not a Christian? I don't know why I thought you were.

I'm Anglican ,we reformed a long time ago ,about 400 years now.
i asked the Christ if it was ok to call him jebus .He didn't say no.

[Hmmm]

"Kibbs" it sounds more like you really don't believe in Jesus (as presented in the Bible) or you would rather join those who mock rather then be among the ones being mocked. Lets face it, the ones who belittle the Bible, God, Jesus and Christianity as a whole are the ones who refer to Jesus the way you did. Who's side are you one? Sounds like your against rather then for.

You have free will, just as the rest of us do, but at least man up about it. One cannot mock the one whom he believes died for him and claims to follow him (which is what a Christian is, a follower of him). Well, for or against? Me I'm for, mockers or not, I don't care what about you Kibbs?

[kibbs]

"Kibbs" it sounds more like you really don't believe in Jesus

I dont believe in the historical Jesus ,i do believe in the idea of Jesus and what he believed .If you watch the pagen christ you will know where i'm at.
'The road to enlightenment is lightening up' -Buddhist monk leonard cohen

your opinions are welcome in my reading
viewtopic.php?f=16&t=49274

[Poindexter]

" One cannot mock the one whom he believes died for him and claims to follow him (which is what a Christian is, a follower of him). Well, for or against? Me I'm for, mockers or not, I don't care what about you Kibbs?

Oh I don't know, Jesus probably had a pretty good sense of humor.

Luke 19:26-27

But I say to you, that to every one that hath shall be given, and he shall abound: and from him that hath not, even that which he hath, shall be taken from him. But as for those my enemies, who would not have me reign over them, bring them hither, and kill them before me. — Jesus

Matthew 10:34-37

Do not think that I came to send peace upon earth: I came not to send peace, but the sword. For I came to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. And as a man’s enemies shall be they of his own household. He that loveth father or mother more than me, is not worthy of me; and he that loveth son or daughter more than me, is not worthy of me. — Jesus

Or not.

[bigchef]

Judging from what I've seen from my experiences of attending a church
for several years, the election of a new pope in the Vatican will have ZERO

ZERO

ZERO

ZERO to do with God, and EVERYTHING to do with money.

What do you think?


discuss

Religion rarely does have anything to do with God.

[Hmmm]

Oh I don't know, Jesus probably had a pretty good sense of humor.

I'm sure he does. A joke is far different then mocking. Suppose you had a meeting with Harper or Obama, would you change their names and call them by it, in front of them? I would imagine most people would say Mr Prime Minister or Mr. President.

But as Kibbles mentioned, he's not really a Christian but more of a religious mutt. I didn't say you can't mock some people, maybe not the the King of Kings, but others just open the door wide. And besides, when you mix several breeds what do you call it?

[kibbs]

And besides, when you mix several breeds what do you call it?

not inbred,heinz 57.strong gene pooled pup.

he's not really a Christian but more of a religious mutt.

Only by birth and the church i attend.I consider my self an all faith and don't exclude the wisdom of any spiritual teaching.
come to my reading if you want to go off topic.

This is about the new pope and hes Argentinean .He has chosen the name Francis .Francis was cool and looked out for the poor,
"you can not serve God and mammon "'Lighten up Francis"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OnpkDWbeJs