Steven Fry
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Oh yes, the science crowd.....I should have known? The "invisible friend".....LOLmy5cents wrote: It amazes me in this modern day and age with our advances in science and exploration how such a large number of people in countries with educated masses believe in an "invisible friend" of some form or another. It astounds me.
Ecclesiastes 10:2 A wise man's heart is at his right hand; but a fool's heart at his left.
Thor Heyerdahl Says: “Our lack of knowledge about our own past is appalling.
Thor Heyerdahl Says: “Our lack of knowledge about our own past is appalling.
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Oh yes...it's all about money crowd. LOLPoindexter wrote:I'll self edit and remove my response.
To average joe.
Look, I get it, you've invested a lot into your religion and you want it to pay off some day. I also realize that you've had a wonderful relationship with an imaginary father figure for a long time. He's been there for you through think and thin and is a part of you now. Logic and reason doesn't stand a chance against that kind of bond.
Science has found many Biblical archeological sites....
Ecclesiastes 10:2 A wise man's heart is at his right hand; but a fool's heart at his left.
Thor Heyerdahl Says: “Our lack of knowledge about our own past is appalling.
Thor Heyerdahl Says: “Our lack of knowledge about our own past is appalling.
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...and this just in. The world is NOT flat.averagejoe wrote:Oh yes, the science crowd.....I should have known? The "invisible friend".....LOL
"The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who haven't got it"
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Ecclesiastes 10:2 A wise man's heart is at his right hand; but a fool's heart at his left.
Thor Heyerdahl Says: “Our lack of knowledge about our own past is appalling.
Thor Heyerdahl Says: “Our lack of knowledge about our own past is appalling.
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Money? Isn't eternal life enough, you want money from god too? It must be exhausting to be the god of such a needy flock.averagejoe wrote:Oh yes...it's all about money crowd....
Remember: Humans are 99% chimp.
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averagejoe wrote:
Without the notion of unicorns there would be no one who didn't believe they existed either. So what's your point?
Remember: Humans are 99% chimp.
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I said nothing of the sort.averagejoe wrote: Farmmaa was trying to paint atheists as the only upstanding people on two feet.....A lot of Christian people probably don't even know of Judgement day?
No one is exempt.....
I said simply that one does not need religion or the bible to have morals and be an upstanding citizen.
Every Christian who has actually read the bible or been to church knows about Judgement day.
Everyone is exempt...because it's imaginary.
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Substitute god with religion.averagejoe wrote:
"Every dollar you spend is a vote for what you believe in."
"My country is the world, and my religion is to do good."
"My country is the world, and my religion is to do good."
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I guess we could go on and on about that one. "Is being an atheist a belief, or a lack of belief", like pondering infinity, I don't even like to try to get my head around it.averagejoe wrote:"If there was no God there would be no reason to be an atheist"
Personally I don't care if someone believes in a greater power or not. I do care if people force their beliefs or the off shoots of their beliefs on me. In our local Canadian/North American society, most of the religious restrictions inflicted on citizens have been eliminated. The "Lord's Day Act" etc, is just a memory. We can now shop on Sundays, go to sporting events, movies etc.
I go one step further. I know all those who are religious with children, and all religious organizations will disagree with me.
I am opposed to "teaching" (brain washing ?) young children religion from a young age. We restrict children from access to all sorts of influences and activities until they are mature enough to deal with them. Religion should be another. Let them decide if religion is for them once they have the tools to make informed decisions.
Churches would be vehemently opposed to this, as I'm sure they'd be worried that it would result in a phenomenal drop in recruitment. Why, if they have such a good argument for believing, wouldn't their facts win adults over ?
"The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who haven't got it"
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It actually is pretty straight forward. Atheism is a lack of belief. We are born atheists, religion and faith is taught.my5cents wrote: I guess we could go on and on about that one. "Is being an atheist a belief, or a lack of belief", like pondering infinity, I don't even like to try to get my head around it.
"Every dollar you spend is a vote for what you believe in."
"My country is the world, and my religion is to do good."
"My country is the world, and my religion is to do good."
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From Dictionary.com
"Atheist, agnostic, infidel, skeptic refer to persons not inclined toward religious belief or a particular form of religious belief. An atheist is one who denies the existence of a deity or of divine beings. An agnostic is one who believes it impossible to know anything about God or about the creation of the universe and refrains from commitment to any religious doctrine. Infidel means an unbeliever, especially a nonbeliever in Islam or Christianity. A skeptic doubts and is critical of all accepted doctrines and creeds. "
So I would say that I am a Skeptical, Agnostic, Athiest, Infidel!
"Atheist, agnostic, infidel, skeptic refer to persons not inclined toward religious belief or a particular form of religious belief. An atheist is one who denies the existence of a deity or of divine beings. An agnostic is one who believes it impossible to know anything about God or about the creation of the universe and refrains from commitment to any religious doctrine. Infidel means an unbeliever, especially a nonbeliever in Islam or Christianity. A skeptic doubts and is critical of all accepted doctrines and creeds. "
So I would say that I am a Skeptical, Agnostic, Athiest, Infidel!
If the Earth was really flat all the cats would have pushed everything off the edge by now!
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I am a dyslexic agnostic suffering from insomnia.
I was up all night last night wondering if there could be a Dog.
I was up all night last night wondering if there could be a Dog.
When capitalism starts to fail fascism comes to the rescue.
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Gotta admit.
Makes a hell of a lot more sense to believe in the Greek gods. Fits better with how the world really is.
Makes a hell of a lot more sense to believe in the Greek gods. Fits better with how the world really is.
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I prefer Norse mythology, but yeah Greek is interesting too.
A little late to the thread but Fry nailed it.
Also every time joe says judgement day I can't help but think of...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASzBAOzRaBw
A little late to the thread but Fry nailed it.
Also every time joe says judgement day I can't help but think of...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASzBAOzRaBw
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There are a lot of similarities between Norse, Greek and Hindu gods as they all came from the same source, the migrations of the Aryan race 6000 years ago.
The old testament of the bible was written while the Jews were in Babylon and was borrowed heavily from the Sumerians, Babylonians, Assyrians and Egyptians. The New Testament was written by the Romans and borrowed the Jesus myth from Egypt (Horus), Buddhist and Zoroastrian (Mithra) traditions. The Buddhist influence can be found in Jesus' teachings. All of it was written by men who had political agendas. None of it was inspired by any god whatsoever.
All of the major religions were spawned by so called civilizations because they had become separated from their connection to the Earth, more specifically, the biosphere which is the source of life on this planet. Living in cities will do that to you. People who still had a connection to the Earth were called pagans and looked down on. The invention of gods was a product of that disconnect from the source of our existence.
The old testament of the bible was written while the Jews were in Babylon and was borrowed heavily from the Sumerians, Babylonians, Assyrians and Egyptians. The New Testament was written by the Romans and borrowed the Jesus myth from Egypt (Horus), Buddhist and Zoroastrian (Mithra) traditions. The Buddhist influence can be found in Jesus' teachings. All of it was written by men who had political agendas. None of it was inspired by any god whatsoever.
All of the major religions were spawned by so called civilizations because they had become separated from their connection to the Earth, more specifically, the biosphere which is the source of life on this planet. Living in cities will do that to you. People who still had a connection to the Earth were called pagans and looked down on. The invention of gods was a product of that disconnect from the source of our existence.
Trying to get spiritual nourishment from a two thousand year old book is like trying to suck milk from the breast of a woman who has been dead that long.