Catholics & Gays

[A1-humor]

You chose an appropriate username

Congrats for bein' da foist to point that out.
'Twas chosen before deciding to get into the Spirituality sub-forum.

[OREZ]

You chose an appropriate username

Congrats for bein' da foist to point that out.
'Twas chosen before deciding to get into the Spirituality sub-forum.

Oh, trust me. It's even more appropriate for this sub-forum.

[Hmmm]

Why not ??? You obviously have.

You're the one who stated, that homesexuals have no choice. I simply responded to what you wrote. Lets just agree, that everyone has a choice to act on, or not act any sexual interests they may have, and call it a day. This could be a first for CN. Agreement. Unless you think people can't choose their own actions.

[steven lloyd]

Unless you think people can't choose their own actions.

People can also choose not to eat or drink water if you really want to be stupid about this. What I was inferring, and what is supported by science and research, is that the condition of homosexuality (that is, a person's innate sexual preference) is not a choice. You can confuse the issue for yourself and get as silly as you want about this. That would be your choice.

[Captain Awesome]

"Catholics and Gays" would make a great name for a bar.

[Puddlejumper40]

"He who overcomes shall inherit all things, and I will be his God and he shall be My son.
But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and
all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.”[/b]

I have a question regarding all liars having their part in a lake which burns fire and brimstone. I wonder if all the people who have lied to their children about Santa Claus, Easter Bunny, Tooth Fairy and so on, do they need to ask for forgiveness or are these little "white lies" that we tell our children, OK, because they are "fun" little stories that don't really hurt anyone?

[cliffy1]

People who just cannot control their particular problem/bondage
really need to seek out a Christian deliverance worker who can drive
the demon out ... and set them free from whatever is afflicting them.
Just as Jesus and His disciples and the later apostles did ...
we can set people free from all of their many problems:
physical, mental, emotional, and spiritual.

You sound like a Scientology fruit loop. Demons exist because people believe in them. They do not exist to those who don't. Wonderful little critters created to scare the crap out if those who really have no faith. Religion is there to control people who have no built in moral compass like most people do. If you need a 2000 year old book to tell you how to behave, you are really in trouble.

[A1-humor]

I have a question regarding all liars having their part in a lake which burns fire and brimstone. I wonder if all the people who have lied to their children about Santa Claus, Easter Bunny, Tooth Fairy and so on, do they need to ask for forgiveness or are these little "white lies" that we tell our children, OK, because they are "fun" little stories that don't really hurt anyone?

IMO, passages such as this one refer to habitual unrepentant liars.
However, God could ask such people on their death beds to repent,
and if they do so with sincerity, they would be forgiven.
Speaking of being forgiven ... Jesus makes it clear that
if you do not forgive everyone for what they have said or
done against you, Father God will not forgive you either.
And if this is the case, how do you get into Heaven?

[A1-humor]

You sound like a Scientology fruit loop. Demons exist because people believe in them. They do not exist to those who don't. Wonderful little critters created to scare the crap out if those who really have no faith. Religion is there to control people who have no built in moral compass like most people do. If you need a 2000 year old book to tell you how to behave, you are really in trouble.

Nope ... wouldn't touch Scientology with a 10-ft pole (or even a shorter one).

News Flash ...
Humans are born spiritually blind, deaf, and dumb, and are definitely spiritual idiots!
Thus and therefore they really need spiritual direction from God.
And this means you! ... So, I suggest that you get used to this fact.
You are a total and complete spiritual idiot (or moron, if you prefer).
You need God to lead you into all spiritual Truth.
And He decided to give it to you in that 2000-year-old Book you seem to hate.
You'd better get used to this fact as well.

[A1-humor]

You sound like a Scientology fruit loop. Demons exist because people believe in them. They do not exist to those who don't. Wonderful little critters created to scare the crap out if those who really have no faith. Religion is there to control people who have no built in moral compass like most people do. If you need a 2000 year old book to tell you how to behave, you are really in trouble.

Nope ... wouldn't touch Scientology with a 10-ft pole (or even a shorter one).

News Flash ...
Humans are born spiritually blind, deaf, and dumb, and are definitely spiritual idiots!
Thus and therefore they really need spiritual direction from God.
And this means you! ... So, I suggest that you get used to this fact.
You are a total and complete spiritual idiot (or moron, if you prefer).
You need God to lead you into all spiritual Truth.
And He decided to give it to you in that 2000-year-old Book you seem to hate.
You'd better get used to this fact as well.

Speaking of demons ... apparently you haven't heard of the many cases
(such as) where a 90-lb woman having one or more demons in her ...
throws 4 or 5 men all over the room ... BEFORE dose little critters are cast out.
*removed*

[Glacier]

I supposed it's only fitting that secularists hijack a religious tradition and claim it as their own since the Catholic church has been hijacking pagan traditions and claiming them as their own for centuries.

[Hmmm]

Somebody has been drinking too much holy water me thinks.

[OREZ]

^^^Or Cool Aid.

[steven lloyd]

Somebody has been drinking too much holy water me thinks.

I think so too, but admitting you have a problem is the first step. Good for you.

[cliffy1]

Nope ... wouldn't touch Scientology with a 10-ft pole (or even a shorter one).

News Flash ...
Humans are born spiritually blind, deaf, and dumb, and are definitely spiritual idiots!
Thus and therefore they really need spiritual direction from God.
And this means you! ... So, I suggest that you get used to this fact.
You are a total and complete spiritual idiot (or moron, if you prefer).
You need God to lead you into all spiritual Truth.
And He decided to give it to you in that 2000-year-old Book you seem to hate.
You'd better get used to this fact as well.

Hmmm, what did Jesus say about the self righteous? Babies are born pure beings of light (angels) and they become corrupted by the world. There are hundreds, maybe thousands of religions in the world and you think that you have found the only true one - one that has around 45,000 different interpretations and sects. Which one do you subscribe to? Are you sure the minister or pastor you are following knows better than 99% of the rest of humanity? And you do realize that it was the Catholic Church that first put the bible together and then it was hijacked by protestants over a thousand years later? The bible says that it should not be altered or any part removed but the KJV has 13 books less that the Catholic bible. You also realize that the bible has been altered, mistranslated and misinterpreted hundreds of times so that it barely resembles the original writings? And then there is the fact that the bible is a rewrite of much older texts going back to Sumeria, Egypt and India? You may think you know what is in the version you hold but you probably have no idea about its history.