Drone interference
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queenk the real estate business in ktown area alone is enough to keep several of my friends working as professional drone pilots. some are doing mapping as well. I have never ventured past the hobby part of things but there is definitely the demand. As stated many times its not the educated fliers that are the problem, its educating all the fliers of the rules thats the problem.
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Are they doing it legally? With proper permits? I saw a few guys doing some real estate video work a few weeks ago and I certainly didnt see any professionalism. Several rules being broken though.fentazelb wrote:queenk the real estate business in ktown area alone is enough to keep several of my friends working as professional drone pilots. some are doing mapping as well. I have never ventured past the hobby part of things but there is definitely the demand. As stated many times its not the educated fliers that are the problem, its educating all the fliers of the rules thats the problem.
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One of my friends shoots and sells footage through video banks. Not a full-time gig, but it already paid for all the equipment and then some. Shot some weddings too.fentazelb wrote:queenk the real estate business in ktown area alone is enough to keep several of my friends working as professional drone pilots.
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http://www.castanet.net/news/BC/147178/ ... ones-boats
It a shame these drone owners don't read the laws before going out and playing with there toys, well here they are. Boat owners/and or renters are just as stupid.from the news link above wrote: Transport Canada regulates the use of drones, and Morris said those regulations prohibit their use near any wildfire.
"The restricted area is within a radius of five nautical miles around a fire and to an altitude of 3,000 feet above ground level.
"The current maximum fine for an infraction is $25,000 and violators could spend up to 18 months in jail.
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The sad part is they never enforce this $25,000 fine or jail time. It could be a million dollar fine. They never charge anyone so the people flying these UAV's where they shouldn't be really don't care. Hand out a few $25,000 tickets then see how much interference they cause.
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K.I.S.S. method.
Have the RCMP attend in the areas of forest fires. Have a long rifle there and down the drown. One shot from a high powered riffle will take that risk out of the equation, so simple it's sick!
Have the RCMP attend in the areas of forest fires. Have a long rifle there and down the drown. One shot from a high powered riffle will take that risk out of the equation, so simple it's sick!
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And while all the cops are out manning the fire line with their rifles, the crooks and speeders will be running amok in town.
(just trying to keep up with the "oversimplify the solution" theme here)
(just trying to keep up with the "oversimplify the solution" theme here)
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What would you suggest as possible solution to this problem, if there even is one.Woodenhead wrote: And while all the cops are out manning the fire line with their rifles, the crooks and speeders will be running amok in town.
(just trying to keep up with the "oversimplify the solution" theme here)
Or do they just let drone flyers disrupt & ground air support during a forest fire, even if that places homeowners property at higher risk of being burnt.
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I don't have a perfect solution. That doesn't mean we should do nothing or that such a solution doesn't exist or is impossible. Your post there is "either or" and that is a logical fallacy.
If someone finds a flaw with a proposed solution, that doesn't mean they are on the opposite side of the fence. It only means (in my case, at least) that we need to dig deeper and work/think harder to find an actual tangible and working solution. Knee-jerk and over-simplified idealistic online quips are rarely workable actual solutions. (I'm not trying to poke a barb at anyone there)
If someone finds a flaw with a proposed solution, that doesn't mean they are on the opposite side of the fence. It only means (in my case, at least) that we need to dig deeper and work/think harder to find an actual tangible and working solution. Knee-jerk and over-simplified idealistic online quips are rarely workable actual solutions. (I'm not trying to poke a barb at anyone there)
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It's catching them in the act, which is going to be one hell of job to do (means finding the drone & operator together).Woodenhead wrote: I don't have a perfect solution. That doesn't mean we should do nothing or that such a solution doesn't exist or is impossible. Your post there is "either or" and that is a logical fallacy.
If someone finds a flaw with a proposed solution, that doesn't mean they are on the opposite side of the fence. It only means (in my case, at least) that we need to dig deeper and work/think harder to find an actual tangible and working solution. Knee-jerk and over-simplified idealistic online quips are rarely workable actual solutions. (I'm not trying to poke a barb at anyone there)
Or just remove the problem that is grounding the fire fighting aircraft by blasting drone out of restricted air space.
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I totally agree. I think the answer may lie in licensing and/or digital signing/tracing. Getting into some technical stuff there which I know little about. I'm sure it's at least plausible.GordonH wrote: It's catching them in the act, which is going to be one hell of job to do (means finding the drone & operator together).
This doesn't seem realistically feasible; surely not very effective. You'd have to actually surround an entire fire with people holding weapons. Then take aim + range + weather considerations into account. Probably other factors. Sounds like a large and expensive undertaking with a low % chance of success. :/ Perhaps it can be done electronically (jamming) but as I understand it, they currently use the same frequency range as legit things do - including emergency services - and so isn't really currently feasible, either. I did post a neat drone weapon earlier - but again, it requires a close range & a person to be in the exact right place at the exact right time.GordonH wrote:Or just remove the problem that is grounding the fire fighting aircraft by blasting drone out of restricted air space.
Things should change in the future. Right now, it's largely unregulated (I'm talking not just about laws regarding actual flying, but manufacturing standards and requirements and such things) but thankfully it's still a relatively rare occurrence. Now is the time for regulatory bodies to get ahead of the curve.
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GordonH wrote: It's catching them in the act, which is going to be one hell of job to do (means finding the drone & operator together).
That would work with new models coming from manufactures under those possible new laws regarding Drones, still have older pre-new law drones to deal with.Woodenhead wrote: I totally agree. I think the answer may lie in licensing and/or digital signing/tracing. Getting into some technical stuff there which I know little about. I'm sure it's at least plausible.
GordonH wrote:Or just remove the problem that is grounding the fire fighting aircraft by blasting drone out of restricted air space.
Chances are just have RCMP helicopter patrolling the area of sightings, with the threat of them shooting them down maybe enough until the technical part you mention earlier fully takes hold.Woodenhead wrote: This doesn't seem realistically feasible; surely not very effective. You'd have to actually surround an entire fire with people holding weapons. Then take aim + range + weather considerations into account. Probably other factors. Sounds like a large and expensive undertaking with a low % chance of success. :/ Perhaps it can be done electronically (jamming) but as I understand it, they currently use the same frequency range as legit things do - including emergency services - and so isn't really currently feasible, either.
Things should change in the future. Right now, it's largely unregulated (I'm talking not just about laws regarding actual flying, but manufacturing standards and requirements and such things) but thankfully it's still a relatively rare occurrence. Now is the time for regulatory bodies to get ahead of the curve.
No matter something needs to be done, its shame common sense would not be enough (meaning people could be losing there biggest investment insured or not, because of drone has halted part of fire fight machine)
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Yep, something needs to be done. I just don't see any solutions offered yet that would currently be very reliable and inexpensive. (both $ and manpower)
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DJI, which sells a significant amount of the drones currently in use now programs there drones not to be able to fly in restricted areas. So if you go set up next to an airport or the White House the thing will not even start.Woodenhead wrote:Yep, something needs to be done. I just don't see any solutions offered yet that would currently be very reliable and inexpensive. (both $ and manpower)
Also, Transport Canada is currently collecting comments on proposed drone regulations to take effect next year so please, give your feedback to them. Registration is definitely an important piece of the puzzle.
The problem with drone regulations is similar to gun regulations. the vast majority of people will not be stupid with their equipment. The problem lies with the idiots who aren't going to follow the rules no matter what.
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Also, buying a firearm is only possible through a specific store which won't sell it to you unless you're licensed. Drones can be bought online overseas no problem. You can buy parts and build your own. Heck, none of the part are really that special.
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