BC libs abandon ghg emissions rules

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https://beta.theglobeandmail.com/news/b ... ice=mobile



now its pretty clear why clark made the change . but facts are your either committed or not . clark isnt and by threating the city of vancouver over their plans to phase out ng is a blatent attempt to appease big carbon based companies . site c is supposed to give us cheap energy on one hand but here they argue electricty costs to much haha . fools i say .


bclibs = talking out 2 sides the same mouth .

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maryjane48 wrote:
now its pretty clear why clark made the change . but facts are your either committed or not . clark isnt and by threating the city of vancouver over their plans to phase out ng


What's wrong with Natural gas? It's an extremely inexpensive energy source that is very clean-burning. In fact one of the only by-products is CO2, a harmless gas required by all plant life on earth to live. Only a complete idiot would be opposed to using natural gas as a heating source.
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The Green Barbarian wrote:
maryjane48 wrote:
now its pretty clear why clark made the change . but facts are your either committed or not . clark isnt and by threating the city of vancouver over their plans to phase out ng


What's wrong with Natural gas? It's an extremely inexpensive energy source that is very clean-burning. In fact one of the only by-products is CO2, a harmless gas required by all plant life on earth to live. Only a complete idiot would be opposed to using natural gas as a heating source.


What's wrong with Natural Gas?

1. Requires Huge Amounts of Water. Each Natural Gas fracturing job would require 1 to 8 million gallons of water to complete.
2. Water Contamination. Apart from possible water shortages, hydraulic fracturing is also linked to underground aquifer and surface water pollution.
3. Triggers Earthquakes. Processes of fracturing have been linked to hundreds of small earthquakes in the U.S. and a larger one in the Fort St. John area.
4. Use of Hazardous Chemicals. The mixture used in fracking often includes additives of biocide, polymeric lubricant, surfactant, and stabilizer, etc.
5. Natural Gas fracturing causes the fugitive release of a huge amount of methane gas, which is far more damaging to atmospheric global warming.
6. While not as much as coal or oil, the burning of natural gas is still a fossil fuel and releases carbon emissions into our atmosphere when burned.
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BeingHuman wrote:6. While not as much as coal or oil, the burning of natural gas is still a fossil fuel and releases carbon emissions into our atmosphere when burned.


Carbon emissions? You mean CO2? So what? Who cares if CO2 is "released into our atmosphere"? CO2 is required for all plant life to live on earth. Why would anyone care if natural gas releases CO2???
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Baaa haaa haaa, if you can't make an argument against six (6) reasons not to use Natural Gas, pick only one and think you are accomplishing something. Yowsers!

"Natural Gas, the newest threat to global warming." http://www.psr.org/environment-and-heal ... rming.html
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BeingHuman wrote:Baaa haaa haaa, if you can't make an argument against six (6) reasons not to use Natural Gas, pick only one and think you are accomplishing something. Yowsers!


Well the first five "arguments" you presented were just a bunch of communist psycho-babble garbage about fracking, and we are actually talking about natural gas here, so that's why I ignored your nonsensical comments as they weren't relevant.

"Natural Gas, the newest threat to global warming."


What's this "global warming" you speak of? And tell me why people in Vancouver using natural gas, an extremely cheap form of energy, and poor people, who can't afford other forms of energy, should be penalized for using this form of energy to stay warm in our cold Canadian winters? If they don't use it, and instead use much more idiotic sources of expensive energy like wind or solar, will this stop this "global warming" thing you speak of? And if the entire world is depending on this tiny amount of people to stop using natural gas for our survival, to stop this "global warming" apocalyptic scenario you believe in (with no actual proof), why aren't more people making more of an out-cry? Seriously - if this tiny amount of the world's population stop using natural gas, whose only by-product is a gas required for all plant life on earth to survive, then why aren't they stopping using it RIGHT NOW. Is there anyone else in the entire world today using some form of energy that emits CO2? And if so, why aren't your BHA HA AHHA HAAing at them in a horribly sanctimonious manner too? I am so confused, your response was so ridiculous I can't quite grasp what you were trying to say.
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Sorry, not about to argue something like global warming, which has already been proven to be a scientific fact. Alt Rights such as yourself have your ideology, I have my science.
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BeingHuman wrote:Sorry, not about to argue something like global warming, which has already been proven to be a scientific fact. .


Putting aside the lie that you stated above, answer the question. What the hell does punishing poor people in Canada by taking away their right to heat their houses with Natural Gas, a clean-burning source of energy, do to help combat this completely fake "problem" you are crying about? Seriously. We are talking about a tiny minority of the world's population, that makes no difference either way, even if this unproven hypothesis is one day proven to be real. Answer the question!!! Why do you hate poor people so much???
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Yesterday's news.

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Heck, if the climate alarmists were to be believed in 2014, we wouldn't have had any snow this past winter. And it certainly shows the desperation by the NDP lapdogs, as their party's falling in the polls faster than our temperature did in December. NDP fails again. Five straight.
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When the person you look up to, and most idolize, bursts your climate change denying bubble. :200:

B.C. Premier Christy Clark says wildfire seasons like the one the province is currently experiencing will become more common because of climate change. "Climate change has altered the terrain. It's made us much more vulnerable to fire," said Clark.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-c ... -1.3162956
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if co2 is harmless i have tank full of co2 . let see how long before you pass out ?

Carbon dioxide is known as an asphyxiant, which is a substance that bonds with your blood in place of oxygen. The website eMedMag.com notes that while most simple asphyxiants do not have any inherent toxicity of their own, cases of CO2 poisoning have been linked to central nervous system damage and permanent deterioration of respiratory functions. Because of these findings, CO2 is considered not just a simple asphyxiant, but a gas with acute systemic effects as well.


you might want to google asphyxiant before heading over [icon_lol2.gif]


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BeingHuman wrote:When the person you look up to, and most idolize, bursts your climate change denying bubble. :200:


Answer the question. Why do you hate poor people in Canada???? Why??
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BeingHuman wrote:Sorry, not about to argue something like global warming, which has already been proven to be a scientific fact. Alt Rights such as yourself have your ideology, I have my science.


Good plan. There are not opposing sides and there is no debate. The science is settled that human activities are accelerating climate change. Science deniers do not deserve a platform or any resemblance of credibility. They can stay in the bowels of society where they belong, Internet forums and the US Government.
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JLives wrote:Good plan. There are not opposing sides and there is no debate. The science is settled that human activities are accelerating climate change. Science deniers do not deserve a platform or any resemblance of credibility. They can stay in the bowels of society where they belong, Internet forums and the US Government.


So you support a long term plan for improvement, or short term punitive actions for the appearance of "help" ? One is a good plan to change how we do things, and the other just rips money from people that can't afford it.

I think a change in balance for what we use is a great plan, however most of the "solutions" currently tabled are image boosting for a politician and punitive to everyone else.
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maryjane48 wrote:if co2 is harmless i have tank full of co2 . let see how long before you pass out ?


Why is this relevant? Are human beings plants or trees? If oxygen is harmless, try breathing pure oxygen sometime and see what happens.
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