Fiery fracas over firing

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If this dude gets money out of this were all doomed, guy is a snowflake with a potential drinking problem, a man child who doesn't know right from wrong if you feel sorry for him I feel sorry for you, he's a pos that thought it would be a good idea to drive after a few drinks, those rallying behind him wouldn't be saying the same thing if he drove into one of your family members, people like this really *bleep* me off.
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Fancy wrote:
SoyChai wrote:I hope he doesn't receive a dime. An irresponsible decision with a work vehicle and he thinks it's unjust?? It absolutely DOES reflect poorly on his employer and they did the right thing by firing him.

He's arguing that it was his personal time and there were other disciplinary actions that could have been used instead of an immediate dismissal which resulted in not obtaining work in the same field.


He was driving the Chief's truck. He got what he deserved.
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pentona wrote:
soupy wrote:
This is spot on.
Hopefully the union / public sector upholds this dismissal.

He deserved to lose his job with this act of stupidity and public endangerment.


Being an Assistant Chief, he would not be in the Union; they would have no say in the outcome. Strictly a Management decision.


Good point, thanks for the correction.

Even more reason that the dismissal should be upheld.
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Responsibility obviously is not the problem here. LOL
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Fancy wrote:
Jflem1983 wrote:He broke the law. He does not deserve that job.

Why should he be treated differently than anyone else in the department?


Everybody seems to be forgetting one very important point

He was an Assistant Chief and in that position, if a major incident occurs he is expected to attend. I sure as hell wouldn't want him driving an Emergency vehicle at HIGH speeds through intersections and roads at 1:30 in the morning or any other time....
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Fancy - ppl are thinking that because of the way this sentence is worded
"I had felt OK, I had a meeting the next day, and we didn't have a vehicle of our own and I didn’t feel comfortable leaving the chief's truck, that particular vehicle, downtown,” Klonteig said in court Tuesday. “So we made the decision to drive home.”He made a really bad decision and I agree he doesn't deserve a big settlement. Altho he'll most likely get one
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Seems to me there were grounds for firing him. Therefore, no severance or other compensation is warranted. Why does he think he should have got 18 months notice before he was terminated? Sounds like a big baby.
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I require a license for my work. If I get a suspension for any reason, I will be terminated and replaced. No one is guaranteed a job in Canada. Any non-unionized worker has little recourse if let go for any reason. The only thing to determine is a severance and there are limits on that. Given the length of his employ, the reasons for dismissal, he won’t get what he is asking for. And, there is precedence that if you are offered more than a court would rule, and you still show up and pick a fight for more, a judge will rescind your original amount and side with the employer, making you pay back. He is a public figure and must be held to higher standards. As a fire fighter, I wonder how many times he’s responded to a MVI and found carnage because of impaired driving?
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I hope he went to the Dr. and got some medication for his worms.

“I had felt OK, I had a meeting the next day, and we didn't have a vehicle of our own and I didn’t feel comfortable leaving the chief's truck, that particular vehicle, downtown,” Klonteig said in court Tuesday. “So we made the decision to drive home.”

My dad use to say, “WE??? Do you have worms?” LOL

The use of the word “we” tells me he doesn’t take full responsibility for his own actions.
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normaM wrote:Fancy - ppl are thinking that because of the way this sentence is worded
"I had felt OK, I had a meeting the next day, and we didn't have a vehicle of our own and I didn’t feel comfortable leaving the chief's truck, that particular vehicle, downtown,” Klonteig said in court Tuesday. “So we made the decision to drive home.”He made a really bad decision and I agree he doesn't deserve a big settlement. Altho he'll most likely get one

Any Council would have made the same claim.
His defensive statement is predictable.
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normaM wrote:Fancy - ppl are thinking that because of the way this sentence is worded
"I had felt OK, I had a meeting the next day, and we didn't have a vehicle of our own and I didn’t feel comfortable leaving the chief's truck, that particular vehicle, downtown,” Klonteig said in court Tuesday. “So we made the decision to drive home.”He made a really bad decision and I agree he doesn't deserve a big settlement. Altho he'll most likely get one

I'm not sure what post of mine you are responding to - keep in mind the fact that I've stated the vehicle should not have been used for personal purposes.
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dogspoiler wrote:It would be interesting to know what reason the cop had to stop a clearly marked Fire Department vehicle. I doubt that it was a routine stop.


2:00 am on the bridge...mostly likely a check stop for all vehicles. No one is or should be immune.

I'm sure he found parking near the Casino much cheaper and easier using the chiefs readily identifiable as WKFD truck as opposed to his Kia.
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should of had on flashing lites and sirens then they wouldnt have stop him,
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steve mc wrote:should of had on flashing lites and sirens then they wouldnt have stop him,

The vehicle that was pulled over at approximately 1:30 am was equipped with all of that?
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Grow up and watch your language. You obviously don't understand the law and the reason behind the lawsuit. If others in his position are treated differently for the same offences, then that opens the door for a lawsuit.


OK ... How about this Fancy .

I'm absolutely GOBSMACKED that anyone can have any empathy or an iota of support for this turnip .

He was impaired while operating a municipally owed truck provided to the head of their EMERGENCY SERVICES for first responders and fire protection . That vehicle was impounded and removed from active service for 30 days (?) thus impeding their ability to do their job...

If that isn't grounds for immediate dismissal , I don't know what is. For anyone , never mind an assistant chief.
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