Who's lying about the Uyghurs?

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Far left socialists claim that persecution of Muslim minority in China is a right-wing capitalist myth. http://www.socialistaction.net/2020/08/ ... t-uyghers/

This is completely false, and 30 seconds of Googling brings up a good rebuttal... https://www.workersliberty.org/story/20 ... repression
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Blumenthal has broadcast on RT (formerly known as Russia Today) on many occasions.[3] In December 2015, during an all-expenses paid trip to Moscow, Blumenthal attended RT's 10 Years On Air anniversary party attended by President Vladimir Putin, then-Lieutenant General Michael Flynn of the United States and English politician Ken Livingstone.[3][16][17][12] In an interview with Tucker Carlson on Fox News in November 2017, Blumenthal defended RT against "the charge that it’s Kremlin propaganda."[3][18] He has also contributed on multiple occasions to Sputnik radio, as well as to Iran's Press TV and China's CGTN.[19][20] Blumenthal founded The Grayzone website a month after his visit to Moscow.[15][2] In an October 2019 article for New Politics magazine, Gilbert Achcar wrote that Blumenthal's Grayzone, along with the World Socialist Web Site, has "the habit of demonizing all left-wing critics of Putin and the likes of Assad by describing them as 'agents of imperialism' or some equivalent".[21] The Grayzone and Blumenthal have rejected mainstream reports concerning the detention of a million Chinese Uyghurs in Xinjiang re-education camps.[22][23] "I don’t have reason to doubt that there’s something going in Xinjiang, that there could even be repression",[24] he told Afshin Rattansi on RT UK's Going Underground in July 2020, adding "we haven’t seen the evidence for these massive claims [of a million people detained]".[25]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Blumenthal

it is worth noting that blumenthal , hangs with the likes of micheal flynn and vlad putin , who are both , president trump supporters .

It was max blumenthals grayzone who came up with the idea that the camps in china could be over blown . He also defends assad from syria .
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Sorry, you start a post with "Far left socialists" and "right-wing capitalist" in the same sentence.
Is your point to promote Russia? or to deride China?
Seems like rote Republican talking points.
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typhoon44 wrote:Sorry, you start a post with "Far left socialists" and "right-wing capitalist" in the same sentence.
Is your point to promote Russia? or to deride China?
Seems like rote Republican talking points.

My point is to defend Uyghurs from the Communist propagandists. You can be a liberal, conservative, and even a leftist and see that this is not some myth. China is persecuting the Uyghurs.
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Glacier wrote:
typhoon44 wrote:Sorry, you start a post with "Far left socialists" and "right-wing capitalist" in the same sentence.
Is your point to promote Russia? or to deride China?
Seems like rote Republican talking points.

My point is to defend Uyghurs the Communist propagandists. You can be a liberal, conservative, and even a leftist and see that this is not some myth. China is persecuting the Uyghurs.


Why do you feel the need to say Communist propagandists?
Do you have something against Communists and are trying to smear them?
Do you understand that today's China is about as far away from Communism as you can get?
Why isn't the US doing something about the Uyghurs?
Why isn't Russia doing something about the Uyghurs?
Maybe you should reconsider where to focus the blame.
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Glacier wrote:
typhoon44 wrote:Sorry, you start a post with "Far left socialists" and "right-wing capitalist" in the same sentence.
Is your point to promote Russia? or to deride China?
Seems like rote Republican talking points.

My point is to defend Uyghurs the Communist propagandists. You can be a liberal, conservative, and even a leftist and see that this is not some myth. China is persecuting the Uyghurs.


typhoon44 wrote:Why do you feel the need to say Communist propagandists?
Do you have something against Communists and are trying to smear them?
Do you understand that today's China is about as far away from Communism as you can get?
Why isn't the US doing something about the Uyghurs?
Why isn't Russia doing something about the Uyghurs?
Maybe you should reconsider where to focus the blame.


Why are you defending the communists?
Is there a reason?
The Uyghurs are being oppressed and you stick up for the oppressor.
Interesting....
communism never changes.....you may think that.
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typhoon44 wrote:Why do you feel the need to say Communist propagandists?
Do you have something against Communists and are trying to smear them?
Do you understand that today's China is about as far away from Communism as you can get?
Why isn't the US doing something about the Uyghurs?
Why isn't Russia doing something about the Uyghurs?
Maybe you should reconsider where to focus the blame.

China is much more mixed economically than in decades past, but the socialists who defend the worst human rights abusers the world has ever known still like China because China continues to human rights abuses they had under Communism.

Yes, I am against Communism. It's the worst ideology of all time, and is responsible for more death than even the Nazis, not because it's more evil, but because so many gullible American westerners like the guy defending China's actions against the Uyghurs get duped into supporting it.
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typhoon44 wrote:Do you have something against Communists and are trying to smear them?


Anyone who doesn't have something against Communists needs to have their head examined. And needs to do some serious historical research. Communists are pure scum.
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Right, I have something against a communism that hasn't existed in 100 years. I'm sooo mad at them.
Please explain how China is communist, and how communism contributes to the offences they perpetrate against you.
Stop trying to hide your racism behind the word communism.

The largest socialist program in the world is the US military, making the US the largest socialist economy in the world. Are you mad at them too?
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typhoon44 wrote:Right, I have something against a communism that hasn't existed in 100 years. I'm sooo mad at them.
Please explain how China is communist, and how communism contributes to the offences they perpetrate against you.
Stop trying to hide your racism behind the word communism.

The largest socialist program in the world is the US military, making the US the largest socialist economy in the world. Are you mad at them too?

Cool, so you're okay with China putting Muslims in concentration camps. I'm not a fan of Islam either, but that's not a good reason for persecuting Muslims and putting them in concentration camps.

BTW, Communism still exists today. Ever heard of North Korea? Also, even when countries like Russia and China move beyond Communism, the evil ideas put forward by their leaders 100 years ago are still believed and supported by millions of people today, including he guy who wrote the article.
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Glacier wrote:Cool, so you're okay with China putting Muslims in concentration camps. I'm not a fan of Islam either, but that's not a good reason for persecuting Muslims and putting them in concentration camps.

BTW, Communism still exists today. Ever heard of North Korea? Also, even when countries like Russia and China move beyond Communism, the evil ideas put forward by their leaders 100 years ago are still believed and supported by millions of people today, including he guy who wrote the article.

You didn't answer my questions. Saying that today's Russia or China look anything like Mao/Stalin is nonsensical.
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typhoon44 wrote:You didn't answer my questions. Saying that today's Russia or China look anything like Mao/Stalin is nonsensical.


So do you agree with persecuting Muslims? If so, why?
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typhoon44 wrote:You didn't answer my questions. Saying that today's Russia or China look anything like Mao/Stalin is nonsensical.

I never said they are still Communist. That's just silly.
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typhoon44 wrote:Right, I have something against a communism that hasn't existed in 100 years. I'm sooo mad at them.
Please explain how China is communist, and how communism contributes to the offences they perpetrate against you.
Stop trying to hide your racism behind the word communism.

The largest socialist program in the world is the US military, making the US the largest socialist economy in the world. Are you mad at them too?


This accusation of racism is unwarranted, IMO, and only serves to weaken your argument. The "R" word is thrown around a little too liberally these days.
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typhoon44 wrote:

Why do you feel the need to say Communist propagandists?
Do you have something against Communists and are trying to smear them?
Do you understand that today's China is about as far away from Communism as you can get?
Why isn't the US doing something about the Uyghurs?
Why isn't Russia doing something about the Uyghurs?
Maybe you should reconsider where to focus the blame.



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