Poll for Humboldt truck driver

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Tough call.

I'll not vote. Yet. I'm still trying to process.
Intent should come into judgement.

I highly doubt he purposely blew the stop sign. intent
vs
Some one who purposely blows up a bus load of kids. intent

Same outcome arrived in two entirely different ways.

What is the intent of the law as written on the deportation of immigrants
that do criminal acts ?

inadvertently blowing a stop sign and purposeful bombings are both crimes.
But are two entirely different criminal acts.

I'll be coming into my 40th year as a commercial driver this year.
I've seen and been through some stuff. Perspective has been gained
if nothing else.
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I read this this morning and wondered if it would make its way here.

I don't want to see this man deported because I don't see the benefit. By all accounts, he is a decent human being who is looking for ways to make it here.

His wife is a professional I think making her a valued asset.

What he did will live with him for the rest of his life. Sending him back to India is simply more punishment.

I understand those who want to see him be deported. They are angry and I get that but this serves no purpose here.

There have been cases of immigrants who committed crimes willfully and successfully fought extradition so why the gloves are being put on here is mystifying.
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I'm in favour of allowing him to stay.

I can't add much to what mexi cali said. The purpose of deportation is to protect our safety and security. Mr. Sidhu has been co-operative and remorseful from the start, and there's no reason to think he'll do additional harm if he's allowed to stay. If any of us did what he did, we'd serve our time and then have a chance to rebuild our lives. I see no reason why Mr. Sidhu shouldn't get the same.
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so many fools. he has shown remorse because his lawyer coached him too.if i did what he did, i would do the same show fake remorse like he is, not to be deported
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the truth wrote:so many fools. he has shown remorse because his lawyer coached him too.if i did what he did, i would do the same show fake remorse like he is, not to be deported
Why do you think its fake remorse and not real remorse??

If you did what he did, you would show fake remorse?? That's terrible. It was a horrible accident, and I would think anyone with a conscious would be truly remorseful.
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he is doing and saying what he needs to do, not to get deported why is that so hard to understand

the guy is a scumbag https://thestarphoenix.com/news/local-n ... irat-sidhu he had 70 federal violations before he killed 16 people
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the truth wrote:he is doing and saying what he needs to do, not to get deported why is that so hard to understand

the guy is a scumbag https://thestarphoenix.com/news/local-n ... irat-sidhu he had 70 federal violations before he killed 16 people
I have multiple logbook violations over the years that I wasn't ticketed for. Everyone has logbook violations in the industry-it's part of the job of getting all the stuff people buy to them.
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oldtrucker wrote:
the truth wrote:he is doing and saying what he needs to do, not to get deported why is that so hard to understand

the guy is a scumbag https://thestarphoenix.com/news/local-n ... irat-sidhu he had 70 federal violations before he killed 16 people
I have multiple logbook violations over the years that I wasn't ticketed for. Everyone has logbook violations in the industry-it's part of the job of getting all the stuff people buy to them.
have you had 70 federal violations in 12 days like this guy
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^^^When I first started with heavy trucks and I was being used and abused by opportunistic employers....yes, maybe even more.
A violation could be something as simple as not marking a cracked light cover on a pretrip or something simple like not marking a vehicle inspection kick the tires 15 min stop at the truck stop. They can add up quick.
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oldtrucker wrote:^^^When I first started with heavy trucks and I was being used and abused by opportunistic employers....yes, maybe even more.
thank you for your honesty :smt045
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the truth wrote: have you had 70 federal violations in 12 days like this guy
Maybe read the whole story:
Sidhu was likely unaware of his log book responsibilities and unqualified to be in a truck that size on a secondary road, Scott Thomas, father of Evan Thomas, told reporters. He questioned the lack of federal oversight of the trucking industry.

“Maybe if more people had eyes on this situation, Mr. Sidhu never would have got on the road, let alone been in a position to violate that many traffic regulations,” Scott Thomas said.
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the truth wrote:he is doing and saying what he needs to do, not to get deported why is that so hard to understand

the guy is a scumbag https://thestarphoenix.com/news/local-n ... irat-sidhu he had 70 federal violations before he killed 16 people
So?? That doesn't mean he doesn't feel remorseful for what happened. People break driving laws every single day, and if they got in an accident that doesn't mean they wouldn't feel remorseful.

I understand that this is your opinion, that doesn't make it a fact.
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Fancy wrote:
the truth wrote: have you had 70 federal violations in 12 days like this guy
Maybe read the whole story:
Sidhu was likely unaware of his log book responsibilities and unqualified to be in a truck that size on a secondary road, Scott Thomas, father of Evan Thomas, told reporters. He questioned the lack of federal oversight of the trucking industry.

“Maybe if more people had eyes on this situation, Mr. Sidhu never would have got on the road, let alone been in a position to violate that many traffic regulations,” Scott Thomas said.
typical of these days, always some else's fault
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the truth wrote:typical of these days, always some else's fault
Actually in this case the company was also under fire - go back and read through this because it's obvious there's going to be a repeat of discussion that has already occurred.

viewtopic.php?f=27&t=77923&hilit=humboldt&start=585
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I have my own personal opinion on this matter, since I didn’t lose a loved one in this tragedy my opinion means nothing.

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