Climate Change Mega Thread

[cyruslosco66]

since 2012 , fire island wind farm has been pumping out the power . in alaska . since 2012 . in snow ice cold weather.

https://www.chugachelectric.com/about-u ... sland-wind

[mbfarm131]

Dan Pena is pompous to say the least, but self made billionaires tend to have the inside track on sociopolitical trends and he pretty well shuts down the climate change debate with one point about mortgages. Sorry about the course language in the video, I wouldn't post it if it wasn't relevant. I care deeply about the environment and believe it is being terribly mismanaged, I think a lot of people feel that way, the climate change debate has only weaponized those well-meaning virtues and turned them into major profit for multinational corporations.

[ckil]

Dan Pena is pompous to say the least, but self made billionaires tend to have the inside track on sociopolitical trends and he pretty well shuts down the climate change debate with one point about mortgages. Sorry about the course language in the video, I wouldn't post it if it wasn't relevant. I care deeply about the environment and believe it is being terribly mismanaged, I think a lot of people feel that way, the climate change debate has only weaponized those well-meaning virtues and turned them into major profit for multinational corporations.

Thanks for posting. Nails it on the head.

[cyruslosco66]

South korea decides not to listen to the climate hoax crowd and invest 43 billion in wind

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-sout ... SKBN2A512D

[cyruslosco66]

snow in saudi arabia , just your typical middle eastern spring lol .

https://twitter.com/NaphiSoc/status/136 ... 74822?s=20

[ckil]

South korea decides not to listen to the climate hoax crowd and invest 43 billion in wind

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-sout ... SKBN2A512D

Sweet! More demand for both carbon fiber and lubricants derived from oil. I will bet it will not be build to that size. It would disrupt too much of the surrounding ecosystem. But then again, one cannot never underestimate the hypocrisy of tree-huggers, they are most likely fine with it.

At least tar sands companies can return the ecosystem back to the way it was, if not better because the oil in the sand is removed leaving a cleaner soil, and less contamination to the water supply because oil is no longer seeping into it. If you ever go to Fort Mac and meet someone who has lived there for a few decades, they will tell you that the land is greener and the water cleaner.

[cyruslosco66]

if oil companies are so good at cleaning up in alberta why is there billions in abandoned wells ? why are tax payers on the hook to clean them up ?

why do oil companies not pay their property taxes in alberta ? and again that shortfall will be made up by tax payers . looks to me like not only is oil n gas dirty they dont clean up or pay their taxes like the rest of us .

[cyruslosco66]

oil exe. caught on tape talking about climate change is different that what they said in public

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/12/clim ... aring.html

[ckil]

oil exe. caught on tape talking about climate change is different that what they said in public

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/12/clim ... aring.html

Oh no! Keep typing on that oil based keyboard, hypocrite.

[cyruslosco66]

i will as long as you keep using air and water hypocrite

[JagXKR]

i will as long as you keep using air and water

[cyruslosco66]

what ? i want clean air and water he wants oil . its not rocket science lol . of course i dont really want my lil pal to not breath or drink water but its as dumb to say both things when i no choice .

[ckil]

what ? i want clean air and water he wants oil . its not rocket science lol . of course i dont really want my lil pal to not breath or drink water but its as dumb to say both things when i no choice .

Can you try and post something in an English we can all understand please?

[ckil]

Lets go Green and screw with the environment more than conventional sources of energy.



SCIENTISTS UNEARTH A CONSEQUENCE OF SOLAR PANELS IN THE SAHARA


"While the black surfaces of solar panels absorb most of the sunlight that reaches them, only a fraction (around 15%) of that incoming energy gets converted to electricity. The rest is returned to the environment as heat."

Covering 20% of the Sahara with solar farms raises local temperatures in the desert by 1.5°C according to our model. At 50% coverage, the temperature increase is 2.5°C. This warming is eventually spread around the globe by the atmosphere and ocean movement, raising the world’s average temperature by 0.16°C for 20% coverage, and 0.39°C for 50% coverage. The global temperature shift is not uniform though – the polar regions would warm more than the tropics, increasing sea ice loss in the Arctic. This could further accelerate warming, as melting sea ice exposes dark water which absorbs much more solar energy.

This massive new heat source in the Sahara reorganizes global air and ocean circulation, affecting precipitation patterns around the world. The narrow band of heavy rainfall in the tropics, which accounts for more than 30% of global precipitation and supports the rainforests of the Amazon and Congo Basin, shifts northward in our simulations. For the Amazon region, this causes droughts as less moisture arrives from the ocean. Roughly the same amount of additional rainfall that falls over the Sahara due to the surface-darkening effects of solar panels is lost from the Amazon. The model also predicts more frequent tropical cyclones hitting North American and East Asian coasts.

Some important processes are still missing from our model, such as dust blown from large deserts. Saharan dust, carried on the wind, is a vital source of nutrients for the Amazon and the Atlantic Ocean. So a greener Sahara could have an even bigger global effect than our simulations suggested.

We are only beginning to understand the potential consequences of establishing massive solar farms in the world’s deserts. Solutions like this may help society transition from fossil energy, but Earth system studies like ours underscore the importance of considering the numerous coupled responses of the atmosphere, oceans, and land surface when examining their benefits and risks.

https://www.inverse.com/science/why-tur ... al-climate

[Jlabute]

Two interesting videos shining alight on the so called 97% consensus, and undue faith in Michael Mann's hockey stick.