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rustled wrote: There are a lot of clichés to unpack here, and that's the problem I see with Singh - the heavy reliance on "apple pie and motherhood" clichés to cloak a lack of practical understanding, a lack of interest in the negative consequences of bad policy choices made ostensibly "for the greater good".

In reality, Singh and his party offer only impediments to innovation.
Further along those lines:

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Jagmeet supports the moronic Orwellian concept of the government regulating speech on social media platforms, all to stop "hate" of course. And who decides what is "hate speech"? The government of course. So if you write something they don't like, like "Jagmeet and Justin are idiots", suddenly you are hit with a fine or worse. What a fantastic concept. Just so yuck.
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rustled wrote:There are a lot of clichés to unpack here, and that's the problem I see with Singh - the heavy reliance on "apple pie and motherhood" clichés to cloak a lack of practical understanding, a lack of interest in the negative consequences of bad policy choices made ostensibly "for the greater good".

In reality, Singh and his party offer only impediments to innovation.
True to Conservative form, lots of vague criticism with no actual points. It's looking like the "get him" plank in the CPC platfrom is still the central foundation of their campaign. Oh wait, there's Mr. O'Toole's revolutionary carbon emissions plan, a bureaucratic tangle that is just a carbon tax with a blue hat. And then there's his comments on the evil wealth gap, too bad his concern stopped with just a comment.

It has always been the way of the right to scoff at "the greater good", no surprise coming from people who's goal it is to maintain a ruling class of rich, white aristocracy.

One person's cliches are another person's enduring truths.
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rustled wrote:There are a lot of clichés to unpack here, and that's the problem I see with Singh - the heavy reliance on "apple pie and motherhood" clichés to cloak a lack of practical understanding, a lack of interest in the negative consequences of bad policy choices made ostensibly "for the greater good".

In reality, Singh and his party offer only impediments to innovation.
True to Conservative form, lots of vague criticism with no actual points. It's looking like the "get him" plank in the CPC platfrom is still the central foundation of their campaign. Oh wait, there's Mr. O'Toole's revolutionary carbon emissions plan, a bureaucratic tangle that is just a carbon tax with a blue hat. And then there's his comments on the evil wealth gap, too bad his concern stopped with just a comment.

It has always been the way of the right to scoff at "the greater good", no surprise coming from people who's goal it is to maintain a ruling class of rich, white aristocracy.

One person's cliches are another person's enduring truths.
I provided precise criticism of Singh and his party, and told you why I can't support them. You've responded with "O'Toole", some rather silly insinuations about my "goal", and another cliché.

:topic: If you could show me one of Singh's policies that I should support, with evidence for why I should support it - evidence that doesn't rely on using terms like "for the greater good", perhaps we'd be able to share some positive thoughts about Singh and the NDP.
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So does Jagmeet really believe in the manure that Justin is spreading, or is he just willfully negligent in supporting a corrupt, lying sack of crap? Third option would be that the NDP is broke after Justin got into bed with Jerry Dias, and simply can't afford to fund another election.


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I am increasingly disappointed in Singh everytime he opens his mouth lately.

Now anti-mask protestors are far right? That doesn't make the least bit of sense if he had any idea at all what right and left means politically. What is next anti-vaccine people are far right? That would be hilarious given its composition of historically leftist hippies.
Demanding your liberties is not a right wing issue.

Singh loves his hate labels.

I am not anti-mask, been masking up quite fine, but this is just stupid pandering and divisive fear politics

All Singh seems to do now is try to find little fires to throw gas on with nonsensical associations and labels to try to get whatever meager attention he hasn't earned.

When he first came onto the stage I had hope but now.....the NDP deserves better, Canada deserves better.
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Staredintoabyss wrote:I am increasingly disappointed in Singh everytime he opens his mouth lately.

Now anti-mask protestors are far right? That doesn't make the least bit of sense if he had any idea at all what right and left means politically. What is next anti-vaccine people are far right? That would be hilarious given its composition of historically leftist hippies.
Demanding your liberties is not a right wing issue.

Singh loves his hate labels.

I am not anti-mask, been masking up quite fine, but this is just stupid pandering and divisive fear politics

All Singh seems to do now is try to find little fires to throw gas on with nonsensical associations and labels to try to get whatever meager attention he hasn't earned.

When he first came onto the stage I had hope but now.....the NDP deserves better, Canada deserves better.
I personally know a couple that are anti-mask and are refusing to get the Covid vaccine, they’re both far left idealists. They don’t believe in vaccines because they feel it’s nothing more than capitalism trying to Interfere with nature.
Singh, Trudeau and all politicians on the left are taking their rhetoric much too far, on West Block yesterday morning the mayor of Calgary was trying to claim the anti-maskers are linked with white nationalists !....
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Staredintoabyss wrote:I am increasingly disappointed in Singh everytime he opens his mouth lately.

Now anti-mask protestors are far right? That doesn't make the least bit of sense if he had any idea at all what right and left means politically. What is next anti-vaccine people are far right? That would be hilarious given its composition of historically leftist hippies.
Demanding your liberties is not a right wing issue.

Singh loves his hate labels.

I am not anti-mask, been masking up quite fine, but this is just stupid pandering and divisive fear politics

All Singh seems to do now is try to find little fires to throw gas on with nonsensical associations and labels to try to get whatever meager attention he hasn't earned.

When he first came onto the stage I had hope but now.....the NDP deserves better, Canada deserves better.
agree 100% i had high hopes for him also until this, https://www.timesnownews.com/internatio ... tel/508010
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Staredintoabyss wrote:I am increasingly disappointed in Singh everytime he opens his mouth lately.

Now anti-mask protestors are far right? That doesn't make the least bit of sense if he had any idea at all what right and left means politically. What is next anti-vaccine people are far right? That would be hilarious given its composition of historically leftist hippies.
Demanding your liberties is not a right wing issue.

Singh loves his hate labels.

I am not anti-mask, been masking up quite fine, but this is just stupid pandering and divisive fear politics

All Singh seems to do now is try to find little fires to throw gas on with nonsensical associations and labels to try to get whatever meager attention he hasn't earned.

When he first came onto the stage I had hope but now.....the NDP deserves better, Canada deserves better.
And like clockwork, here's the idiot CBC to help sell the false narrative...man does the CBC suck, almost as much as the NDP.

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/c ... d=msedgntp
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Interesting that this morning Singh. Came out in short term support for Line 5. He pointed out the importance of the pipeline to Ontario and Quebec during the transition to green energy and the urgency of finding a replacement. Pragmatic and timely. This is in sharp contrast to the Bloc and CPC, both of which seem to be more comfortable in blaming and finger pointing than finding solutions.
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erinmore3775 wrote:Interesting that this morning Singh. Came out in short term support for Line 5. He pointed out the importance of the pipeline to Ontario and Quebec during the transition to green energy and the urgency of finding a replacement. Pragmatic and timely. This is in sharp contrast to the Bloc and CPC, both of which seem to be more comfortable in blaming and finger pointing than finding solutions.
This seems to be a matter of opinion. I would say the CPC are obviously leading the pack on this issue, while the NDP, as dense as they are, know that it would be catastrophic for this line to be shut down to Ontario's economy, and don't want to look completely crazy, so therefore, out with "support" for keeping it open, while appealing to the gullible math-challenged mush-heads out there who somehow think that 500,000 barrels a day of oil can be replaced with a wind mill.
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Brain-dead idiot and Fidel Castro lover Jagmeet caught breaking COVID protocols - will this breach cost him votes from the COVID Karens on the far Left? Will they flock back to the kneeling imbecile and professional Queen Victoria-hater Justin now??
NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh apologizes after video shows him breaking COVID-19 rules

NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh is apologizing after a video obtained by Global News shows him breaking COVID-19 restrictions and spending unmasked time in close quarters with an individual who is not from his household.

The footage, which the party confirmed seems "legitimate," shows Singh exiting a car with Taranvir Dhaliwal, who works as an executive assistant for Singh's brother Gurratan -- a provincial NDP MPP.

Neither Singh nor Dhaliwal are wearing masks, and the two share a hug before walking away together.

Singh had been attending a drive-in Iftar event in Mississauga with Dhaliwal before driving back to Singh's family home, where he has been living with his parents and siblings throughout the pandemic.

“Like most Canadians, I’ve done my best to follow public health advice. Coming back from this event, I did not do enough to follow that advice and I’m sorry," Singh said in a statement emailed to Global News.

"I will do better to keep my family, our community and all Canadians safe. We cannot let our guard down if we want to beat this virus, and I’m committed to continue to do my best until we’re on the other side of this."

Dhaliwal and Singh are both vaccinated with one dose, the source added, though vaccinated Canadians are still currently required to follow the same rules as those who have yet to receive their shots.

Speaking to Global News in an interview on Thursday, Singh reiterated his apology.

"I really hope that this just doesn't discourage anyone from wearing their masks and following public health protocols," he said.

"And it's a reminder, you know, sometimes we let down our guard, and I did that, and I'm sorry."

He said that Dhaliwal is a volunteer that Singh works with "a lot, and also a friend." This reality, Singh said, led to him dropping his guard.

"I reverted back to the pre-pandemic days where I would I would greet my friends with a hug or say bye with a hug," he said.

"This is what happens to a lot of us, we sometimes let down our guards at the end of the day, and I did that and I apologize for that."

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Singh has residences in both Ottawa and in his B.C. riding. The source said Singh spent the summer as well as some break weeks in his Burnaby home -- when it was safe to do so, and restrictions allowed for it.

"Instead of flying back and forth, which I think is a much higher risk, lots of folks have been saying that's a higher risk...while there's been lockdown orders, I've avoided flying as much as possible, almost entirely," Singh said.

However, he said he still spends as much time in his riding as he can -- and participates in virtual events.

"I was doing all the events that I can," Singh said.

"I just did a town hall a couple of days ago with some of the leading physicians responding to COVID-19 in Burnaby South. So lots of events, lots of virtual outreach."

The NDP leader isn't the first politician to come under fire for failing to follow COVID-19 restrictions. Then-Conservative leader Andrew Scheer faced heavy criticism after a photo emerged of him unmasked at an airport. Health Minister Patty Hajdu came under similar scrutiny when she was snapped unmasked in an airport lounge.

Then-Ontario finance minister Rod Phillips was also forced to resign from cabinet after it emerged that he had taken a vacation to the Caribbean while his own government publicly pleaded with citizens to stay home. Multiple other politicians, provincial and federal alike, came under fire for similar trips.

The NDP faced its own travel-related scandal when NDP MP Niki Ashton travelled to Greece during the pandemic. She had taken the trip in order to care for an ill family member -- but was still stripped of her critic role when the news of her travel was made public.

“While we are sympathetic to Ms. Ashton’s situation and understand her need to be with her family, millions of Canadians are following public health guidelines, even when it made it impossible for them to visit sick or aging relatives,” read an NDP statement, issued in early January.
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Canadian big banks, already piling up enormous profits, are going to increase their service charges for ordinary Canadians. Justin Trudeau mumbled something about banks being responsible for their own business. Erin O'Toole, reliant on the BigBanks for funding, has remained silent on the issue. Only Jagmeet Singh has said the banks need to be reined in.
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bob vernon wrote: May 27th, 2021, 12:07 pm Only Jagmeet Singh has said the banks need to be reined in.
And only Jagmeet Singh is looking like a complete idiot on this issue. As usual, it's the NDP that want to engage in over-reach. I remember in the 1980's the NDP, under the leadership of Ed Broadbent, wanted to nationalize the banks. Imagine how screwed Canada would be right now with no competitive banking sector, and the government in control of all loans and mortgages. We would be totally up poop creek. The NDP - always the dumbest!
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bob vernon wrote: May 27th, 2021, 12:07 pm Canadian big banks, already piling up enormous profits, are going to increase their service charges for ordinary Canadians. Justin Trudeau mumbled something about banks being responsible for their own business. Erin O'Toole, reliant on the BigBanks for funding, has remained silent on the issue. Only Jagmeet Singh has said the banks need to be reined in.
Can you show us in Canadian political funding law where any corporation or BigBank is able to fund a political party?
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Gone_Fishin wrote: May 27th, 2021, 12:51 pm
bob vernon wrote: May 27th, 2021, 12:07 pm Canadian big banks, already piling up enormous profits, are going to increase their service charges for ordinary Canadians. Justin Trudeau mumbled something about banks being responsible for their own business. Erin O'Toole, reliant on the BigBanks for funding, has remained silent on the issue. Only Jagmeet Singh has said the banks need to be reined in.
Can you show us in Canadian political funding law where any corporation or BigBank is able to fund a political party?
I think bobvernon means the parties main players are getting $$$ through back door round the hedge ways. It's all connected....follow the money trail that WE scandal and JT will lead to for example.
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