Crane collapse downtown

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Tankur wrote: Jul 16th, 2021, 5:56 pm
Feel feee to check out the rest of his videos 🤷🏾‍♂️20 years crane op not ever one issue. I did 5 towers around stadium sky train with him as a rigger. No phones back then ..
We're specifically discussing the time frame during assembly/disassembly of a crane.
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Urban Cowboy wrote: Jul 16th, 2021, 6:06 pm
Tankur wrote: Jul 16th, 2021, 5:56 pm

Feel feee to check out the rest of his videos 🤷🏾‍♂️20 years crane op not ever one issue. I did 5 towers around stadium sky train with him as a rigger. No phones back then ..
We're specifically discussing the time frame during assembly/disassembly of a crane.
I just shared a vid from his profile feel free to look through he has a lot of in action …
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alanjh595 wrote: Jul 16th, 2021, 5:24 pm
Urban Cowboy wrote: Jul 16th, 2021, 4:29 pm Screen captures are still, not videos showing motion.
Not if you pause them. Here let me demonstrate.

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From 1:52 of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0bi7OfaKMY
Yeah you have a paused still picture. That's not what was posted to instagram that is considered damning.
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TylerM4 wrote: Jul 16th, 2021, 5:29 pm I just don't get this. Continued grasping at straws to justify poor unsafe behavior.

There's a legitimate chance that "distracted operator" resulted in the deaths of 5 individuals this week. Jaw dropping to see we have people defending that behavior.
Above edited for brevity.

There is no grasping at straws for justification of unsafe behaviour.
There is however, some that want to blame a dead person without anything more than conjecture.
How is that of any benefit to anyone?
Are there NO moral restrictions/limits that will only increase the grief and harm to the the surviving family members?

WAIT for the conclusions of the professionals that are on site.
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I agree, the pitchfork crew needs a rest...
I'd like to help You OUT,
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Tankur wrote: Jul 16th, 2021, 5:55 pm
Even Steven wrote: Jul 16th, 2021, 5:38 pm

Post it. Let's see it.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BkYAZpqnqoV ... hare_sheet
It's a video of him walking around the crane that is standing still. Nobody cares about it. By the way, he's using the fall protection judging by click-clacking that dummies in the video we're discussing weren't using. Cause they were too cool for it. Along with whole other things they were too cool for it like caring for their own lives and the lives of others.

I don't think you understand what we're discussing so whatevs.
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Even Steven wrote: Jul 16th, 2021, 7:57 pm
It's a video of him walking around the crane that is standing still. Nobody cares about it. By the way, he's using the fall protection judging by click-clacking that dummies in the video we're discussing weren't using. Cause they were too cool for it. Along with whole other things they were too cool for it like caring for their own lives and the lives of others.

I don't think you understand what we're discussing so whatevs.
*removed* As I mentioned. Other videos on his page you can look at.. for
Yourself. No harness when you there because there is guardrails ..if ya ever worked a day Of construction you would know..harness isn’t necessary if guard rails are up………*removed*
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I have been on at least 1 site requiring safety harnesses while working within rails.
And that was 22 years ago. I imagine some sites are more strict now.

It was a fluor daniel site in the south end of Calgary.
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Was a great show out from the community last night. Very emotional. The families appreciated it very much. It was nice to hear the kind words spoken of the boys from stemmer. Nice to hear from the families and friends. Rip to all
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alanjh595 wrote: Jul 16th, 2021, 6:30 pm
TylerM4 wrote: Jul 16th, 2021, 5:29 pm I just don't get this. Continued grasping at straws to justify poor unsafe behavior.

There's a legitimate chance that "distracted operator" resulted in the deaths of 5 individuals this week. Jaw dropping to see we have people defending that behavior.
Above edited for brevity.

There is no grasping at straws for justification of unsafe behaviour.
There is however, some that want to blame a dead person without anything more than conjecture.
How is that of any benefit to anyone?
Are there NO moral restrictions/limits that will only increase the grief and harm to the the surviving family members?

WAIT for the conclusions of the professionals that are on site.
I agree.

If the investigation does find unsafe behavior on the site led to the death of five people, the blame should be on the bosses at Stemmer and MG if they were aware of this unsafe behavior.
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Holy crap! The gofundme for Brad Zawislak is almost at $300K. Some family just donated $100K.
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Even Steven wrote: Jul 17th, 2021, 10:08 am Holy crap! The gofundme for Brad Zawislak is almost at $300K. Some family just donated $100K.
A read of the comments on that Gofundme page speaks volumes as to his character and the hole he leaves
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I wonder how Stemmer Construction and the Mission Group are feeling after the news report regarding videos showing complete lack of safety protocols while they worked on this particular jobsite.

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