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Even Steven wrote: Jul 16th, 2021, 10:41 am

However, the story/video that was saved before it became unavailable (as they disappear after 24 hours) was rather damning.

Now the whole stemmercrane instagram page is gone.
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Trixster wrote: Jul 17th, 2021, 1:09 pm I wonder how Stemmer Construction and the Mission Group are feeling after the news report regarding videos showing complete lack of safety protocols while they worked on this particular jobsite.
To be honest.. I dont think they spent a lot of their time .., at the highest point of the building observing the crane personel, which is one guy up top , most of the time... And to be honest, I dont think they want anyone around it even nearby , while the crane is being dusmantked.. .....
They probably had their focus on their crew , more than the subtrades... :smt045
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Now the whole stemmercrane instagram page is gone.
Can you blame them ???

With this kangaroo court going on , I wouldn't even have one ...
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MAPearce wrote: Jul 17th, 2021, 2:34 pm
Now the whole stemmercrane instagram page is gone.
Can you blame them ???

With this kangaroo court going on , I wouldn't even have one ...
Yes. We can absolutely blame the indiscretions. In regards to the investigation by Worksafe it is black and white. It makes sense there is emotions involved and feeling sorry for those in the incident that didn't do things properly. I would think that dad would have preferred doing things by the book so his boy was still alive. But alas - that didn't happen. And mentioning isn't insensitive or malicious. Its cause and effect - that's it.
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Yes. We can absolutely blame the indiscretions. In regards to the investigation by Worksafe it is black and white. It makes sense there is emotions involved and feeling sorry for those in the incident that didn't do things properly. I would think that dad would have preferred doing things by the book so his boy was still alive. But alas - that didn't happen. And mentioning isn't insensitive or malicious. Its cause and effect - that's it
Please .. Do elaborate about the WorkSafe investigation ..

I understand that it isn't finished yet ...
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MAPearce wrote: Jul 17th, 2021, 2:34 pm
Now the whole stemmercrane instagram page is gone.
Can you blame them ???

With this kangaroo court going on , I wouldn't even have one ...
It may not be visible to us but I can practically guarantee that Worksafe BC have it saved.
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This will also have a huge impact on Stemmers ability to bid on tendered jobs. Possibly mission group as well. Safety records are part of the biidding processes.
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So.. is this going to affect you, me , or 95 percent of the others.. on this forum.?
Let them finish the investigation.. .... myself I trust they will do the job... and I would bet they wont come on here for advice..,
It will all get sorted out.. :..
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nucksRnum1 wrote: Jul 17th, 2021, 5:42 pm This will also have a huge impact on Stemmers ability to bid on tendered jobs. Possibly mission group as well. Safety records are part of the biidding processes.
Would not surprise me if they never put forth another bid. Family business with just the father surviving, their biggest asset lost, fines/legal woes, etc. I think the father will retire, never replace the crane, and that'll be the end of it.
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TylerM4 wrote: Jul 18th, 2021, 7:34 am I think the father will retire, never replace the crane, and that'll be the end of it.
That's a definite possibility and no one would fault him for retiring after losing 2 sons in this tragedy.
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It was a relatively new company.
My guess is the father started it and built it up mainly to pass along to his children.
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60-YEARS-in-Ktown wrote: Jul 17th, 2021, 9:25 pm So.. is this going to affect you, me , or 95 percent of the others.. on this forum.?
Let them finish the investigation.. .... myself I trust they will do the job... and I would bet they wont come on here for advice..,
It will all get sorted out.. :..

Investigations and reports can take a couple years. This is a place for laymen to discuss current events.

While they may not come here for advice, investigators and lawyers involved in the collapse certainly monitor this and other forums (such as reddit where workers are dropping tidbits).

The collapse of the crane is fairly big, albeit tragic, news, and people are going to put their two cents in.
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crookedmember wrote: Jul 18th, 2021, 9:39 aminvestigators and lawyers involved in the collapse certainly monitor this and other forums (such as reddit where workers are dropping tidbits).
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This is where they find all the expert opinions and working theories lol.

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