Canada accepting 20,000 Afghanistan's

User avatar
nucksRnum1
Lord of the Board
Posts: 3027
Joined: Jul 2nd, 2021, 1:55 pm

Re: Canada accepting 20,000 Afghanistan's

Post by nucksRnum1 »

bb49 wrote: Aug 21st, 2021, 7:28 pmHarper, Harper, Harper. It's all about Harper. It's all Harper's fault. :smt045 Do you want to throw Trump in there too? News flash. Harper has been gone for several years. Get with the program.
So is the innuendo that Harper did nothing at all wrong or illegal while in power? There is a lot of evidence to the contrary. And I see many in these threads bring up the ghost of Trudeau SR from the Conservative side. As such do you honestly think that people care when you make rules that Harper is off-limits? Say it all you want. It won't stop people.

This kind of kneecapping on the fly reminds me of playing a game with a 5-year-old. Every time you do something - the rules suddenly compound and get more stringent against the adult. Much like the state voting laws passed in the US against democrats.

All people have done around here is illustrate facts in regards to the Harper years. Which conservatives supported (as well as Trump) blindly and didn't use the same stratospheric or impossible standard for JT & Biden. I hope that Trudeau wins another majority in the coming up elections. These poor Afghan refugees will probably be turned back because of Conservative intolerance ala Stephen Miller in Trumps inner circle if conservatives come to power.
User avatar
Babba_not_Gump
Walks on Forum Water
Posts: 13014
Joined: Jul 16th, 2019, 2:38 pm

Re: Canada accepting 20,000 Afghanistan's

Post by Babba_not_Gump »

nucksRnum1 wrote: Aug 21st, 2021, 7:54 pm
bb49 wrote: Aug 21st, 2021, 7:28 pmHarper, Harper, Harper. It's all about Harper. It's all Harper's fault. :smt045 Do you want to throw Trump in there too? News flash. Harper has been gone for several years. Get with the program.
So is the innuendo that Harper did nothing at all wrong or illegal while in power? There is a lot of evidence to the contrary. And I see many in these threads bring up the ghost of Trudeau SR from the Conservative side. As such do you honestly think that people care when you make rules that Harper is off-limits? Say it all you want. It won't stop people.

This kind of kneecapping on the fly reminds me of playing a game with a 5-year-old. Every time you do something - the rules suddenly compound and get more stringent against the adult. Much like the state voting laws passed in the US against democrats.

All people have done around here is illustrate facts in regards to the Harper years. Which conservatives supported (as well as Trump) blindly and didn't use the same stratospheric or impossible standard for JT & Biden. I hope that Trudeau wins another majority in the coming up elections. These poor Afghan refugees will probably be turned back because of Conservative intolerance ala Stephen Miller in Trumps inner circle if conservatives come to power.
224999098-letting-go-of-the-past-is-your-first-step-toward-happiness-quote-1.jpg
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
I'm posting this from Traditional lands of the British Empire & the current Lands of The Dominion of Canada.
I also give thanks for this ethos richness bestowed on us via British Colonialism.

#StandUpToJewishHate
User avatar
nucksRnum1
Lord of the Board
Posts: 3027
Joined: Jul 2nd, 2021, 1:55 pm

Re: Canada accepting 20,000 Afghanistan's

Post by nucksRnum1 »

Absolutely right. As such you should simply vote for Trudeau. Nothing he has done previously matters. Because it is all about happiness. And anything Trudeau did is off-limits - it's an in the past thing.
foenix
Guru
Posts: 7664
Joined: Mar 30th, 2020, 1:30 pm

Re: Canada accepting 20,000 Afghanistan's

Post by foenix »

bb49 wrote: Aug 21st, 2021, 7:28 pm
foenix wrote: Aug 21st, 2021, 5:43 pm When Haper finally got us out of that country,....

Way to go Harper! :up:
I have no doubt that JT and the Libs will get the 20,000 Afghanis out like he did the Syrians.......
[icon_lol2.gif]
Don't hold your breath, it ain't gonna to happen.
Let's see why. Last Thursday our first flight had 175 Afghan nationals on it.
The next day, our second flight had 106 Afghan nationals on it.
20,000-175-106=19,719 Afghans left to fulfill Justin's latest promise.
Sorry, but it ain't gonna happen.
....but of course that is also dependent on how many will be able to reach the airport as the Taliban has all but closed off the access to the airport.
Ahh, don't you recall, it was waaaay back in April that Biden announced he was pulling US troops out of Afghanistan.
Canada has had plenty of time.
It's too bad Harper only brought over a pitiful 800 Afghanis in 2014 or else there would have no need for JT who was elected after Canada got out of Afghanistan to bring over 20 times more peeps than Harper's callous government.
Harper, Harper, Harper. It's all about Harper. It's all Harper's fault. :smt045
Do you want to throw Trump in there too?

News flash. Harper has been gone for several years. Get with the program.
Wasnt it under Haper's watch when all Canadian presence except the Embassy left Afghanistan? Doesnt that mean he should have been responsible for getting the Afghanistan allies out when the Canadians pulled out? It wasnt on JT's watch now was it? He was elected 1 year AFTER Harper regime's callous disregard for the Afghanistan allies that were left behind.

It might have been been April Biden announced the US troop withdraw but Canada has been out of there since 2014 and started the withdraw in 2011, so yeah, there is no excuse for Haroer's government not to have brought over the allies then. He had 3 years from the start of the Canadian pull out to 2014 to deal with the evacuation of our allies.

If it's JT you're barking at, the barking is at the wrong person...............Harper's watch = Harper's responsibilty.

It's a another failure on Harper and the CPC and I will extend the CPC malfeasance list to add another failure.
User avatar
Gone_Fishin
Walks on Forum Water
Posts: 12482
Joined: Sep 6th, 2006, 7:43 am

Re: Canada accepting 20,000 Afghanistan's

Post by Gone_Fishin »

Selfie boy gets roasted again.

He's out flashing his socks at voters while women in Afghanistan are murdered and held as sex slaves.

Trudeau used these girls, then ignored their pleas for help after they had served their purpose for his photo op. Disgusting.

Oklahoma mom saves members of Afghan girls robotics team that Trudeau previously used for photo op


Image


The Afghan Girls Robotics Team was saved by the unlikeliest of heroes. An Oklahoma mother of 11 flew to Afghanistan earlier this month to rescue ten of its members.

Allyson Reneau, a 60-year old Harvard graduate with a Masters degree in international relations and US space policy, took it upon herself to try and save more members of the Afghan Girls Robotic Team as the Taliban took power in Kabul, reported New York Post.

They begged Canada’s federal government for help. They were "extremely terrified" and tried to connect with Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, who held a photo op with them in 2018.

"If this government (the Taliban) wants to be legitimate, they can do things in real-time to demonstrate to the world that women will have their rights equal to that of men," said prominent human rights lawyer Kimberley Motley, who previously appealed to Trudeau to help the girls seek refuge in Canada.

https://thepostmillennial.com/oklahoma- ... r-photo-op
ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

A smaller government makes room for bigger citizens.

"We know that Russia must win this war." ~ Justin Trudeau, Feb 26, 2024.
foenix
Guru
Posts: 7664
Joined: Mar 30th, 2020, 1:30 pm

Re: Canada accepting 20,000 Afghanistan's

Post by foenix »

The main thing is they got out and it doesnt matter who came through. JT is also doing his part to get other Afghanis out despite not having anything to do with our involvement in the war. That would be the other guys who dropped the ball when they had their chance between 2011 to 2014 when we were getting out.
User avatar
nucksRnum1
Lord of the Board
Posts: 3027
Joined: Jul 2nd, 2021, 1:55 pm

Re: Canada accepting 20,000 Afghanistan's

Post by nucksRnum1 »

Thank god that the Cons are not in control of immigration of this magnitude. When the Cons were in power - the selection metric was to only allow "Christian" Syrians into the country to buoy their base and votes. Vetting Afghan "Christians" would be next to impossible.
User avatar
Hurtlander
Walks on Forum Water
Posts: 11752
Joined: Jun 23rd, 2013, 10:48 am

Re: Canada accepting 20,000 Afghanistan's

Post by Hurtlander »

nucksRnum1 wrote: Aug 22nd, 2021, 4:22 pm Thank god that the Cons are not in control of immigration of this magnitude. When the Cons were in power - the selection metric was to only allow "Christian" Syrians into the country to buoy their base and votes. Vetting Afghan "Christians" would be next to impossible.
As usual you don’t have the first clue. Harper was in Afghanistan quite often, he made the trips on a low key basis without a bunch of media fanfare and media photo-ops and grandstanding.. Harper was exponentially better versed on the situation in Afghanistan than Trudeau will ever be, just talk to any members of the Canadian armed forces that were in Afghanistan during the Harper years, he was well thought of and respected.
Póg Mo Thoin
No longer proud to be born in British Columbia.
foenix
Guru
Posts: 7664
Joined: Mar 30th, 2020, 1:30 pm

Re: Canada accepting 20,000 Afghanistan's

Post by foenix »

Hurtlander wrote: Aug 22nd, 2021, 6:24 pm
nucksRnum1 wrote: Aug 22nd, 2021, 4:22 pm Thank god that the Cons are not in control of immigration of this magnitude. When the Cons were in power - the selection metric was to only allow "Christian" Syrians into the country to buoy their base and votes. Vetting Afghan "Christians" would be next to impossible.
As usual you don’t have the first clue. Harper was in Afghanistan quite often, he made the trips on a low key basis without a bunch of media fanfare and media photo-ops and grandstanding.. Harper was exponentially better versed on the situation in Afghanistan than Trudeau will ever be, just talk to any members of the Canadian armed forces that were in Afghanistan during the Harper years, he was well thought of and respected.
Yeah I guess he didn't think much of our Afghani allies the way he left most of them behind and callously told them "you got paid and knew what you were paid for" so just shut up and suck it up. Kinda like that?.........because that's essentially what he said to them. I can tell you a lot of the members of the Canadian armed forces did not like that crass treatment of their Afghani friends.
User avatar
nucksRnum1
Lord of the Board
Posts: 3027
Joined: Jul 2nd, 2021, 1:55 pm

Re: Canada accepting 20,000 Afghanistan's

Post by nucksRnum1 »

Hurtlander wrote: Aug 22nd, 2021, 6:24 pmAs usual you don’t have the first clue. Harper was in Afghanistan quite often, he made the trips on a low key basis without a bunch of media fanfare and media photo-ops and grandstanding.. Harper was exponentially better versed on the situation in Afghanistan than Trudeau will ever be, just talk to any members of the Canadian armed forces that were in Afghanistan during the Harper years, he was well thought of and respected.
Are you sure about that? Vets that came back from his watch in his allied war with no legs. And then had to wait for hours for the 1 operator employed by the VA because of HWSNBN'ed disdain for federal workers. And then once every year the disabled hero had to prove he still had no legs. So I have a real hard time with your rosy recollection of this fawning you speak of by those in the military towards HWSNBN'ed. The cuts to the bone made veterans lives harder when they got home.

https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/paul-fran ... 24358.html
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
User avatar
The Green Barbarian
Insanely Prolific
Posts: 83918
Joined: Sep 16th, 2010, 9:13 am

Re: Canada accepting 20,000 Afghanistan's

Post by The Green Barbarian »

nucksRnum1 wrote: Aug 22nd, 2021, 4:22 pm Thank god that the Cons are not in control of immigration of this magnitude. When the Cons were in power - the selection metric was to only allow "Christian" Syrians into the country to buoy their base and votes. Vetting Afghan "Christians" would be next to impossible.
The Liberals have no idea what they are doing. Thank goodness they will be out the door soon, and the CPC can again be in charge of immigration.
"The western far Left is habitually the most stupid, naive people you can imagine. They come up with these really goofy constructs and it's all about feeling good about yourself."
From the river to the sea, Israel must be psychopath Hamas free.
rustled
Buddha of the Board
Posts: 24739
Joined: Dec 26th, 2010, 12:47 pm

Re: Canada accepting 20,000 Afghanistan's

Post by rustled »

Hurtlander wrote: Aug 22nd, 2021, 6:24 pm
nucksRnum1 wrote: Aug 22nd, 2021, 4:22 pm Thank god that the Cons are not in control of immigration of this magnitude. When the Cons were in power - the selection metric was to only allow "Christian" Syrians into the country to buoy their base and votes. Vetting Afghan "Christians" would be next to impossible.
As usual you don’t have the first clue. Harper was in Afghanistan quite often, he made the trips on a low key basis without a bunch of media fanfare and media photo-ops and grandstanding.. Harper was exponentially better versed on the situation in Afghanistan than Trudeau will ever be, just talk to any members of the Canadian armed forces that were in Afghanistan during the Harper years, he was well thought of and respected.
I find it quite bizarre that people think Harper should have forced people who were working to rebuild Afghanistan to leave Afghanistan while he was PM.

It's as though Harper was PM when the US announced they were pulling out.

This is what the total inability to acknowledge Justin Trudeau's failures to take seriously his responsibilities as PM looks like.

For many months, our PMO knew the US was pulling out of Afghanistan - just as we all did.

For weeks, people in Afghanistan who didn't want to risk staying during and after the withdrawal were trying to get the paperwork done to get out of the country, paperwork that was stalled in the mire of our sluggish Canadian government bureaucracy.

For weeks, the Trudeau government wasn't expediting the process as people at risk in Afghanistan waited on tenterhooks for our government to give them a modicum of control over their predicament. Instead, for weeks, Trudeau was busy plotting his next move, weighing his options for taking more control of the Canadian government.

And after weeks of ignoring pleas for help from Afghanistan, and even as the Canadian embassy in Kabul was being closed as the Taliban took Kabul, Trudeau was waltzing into Rideau Hall with his pretty, perfectly safe family and his pretty, perfectly vacuous smile to ask our GG to let him have what he wanted, instead of doing the serious stuff for which he was already responsible. What effect did the erupting crisis in Afghanistan have on Trudeau's opportunistic power grab? None whatsoever.

"Oh, well, no big deal, Canada. We'll just express our sad feelings about Afghanistan and promise to take 20,000 refugees! That will make up for the bad optics of me not taking my job seriously, right?"
User avatar
Smurf
Walks on Forum Water
Posts: 10410
Joined: Aug 12th, 2006, 8:55 am

Re: Canada accepting 20,000 Afghanistan's

Post by Smurf »

rustled wrote:

I find it quite bizarre that people think Harper should have forced people who were working to rebuild Afghanistan to leave Afghanistan while he was PM.

It's as though Harper was PM when the US announced they were pulling out.

This is what the total inability to acknowledge Justin Trudeau's failures to take seriously his responsibilities as PM looks like.

For many months, our PMO knew the US was pulling out of Afghanistan - just as we all did.

For weeks, people in Afghanistan who didn't want to risk staying during and after the withdrawal were trying to get the paperwork done to get out of the country, paperwork that was stalled in the mire of our sluggish Canadian government bureaucracy.

For weeks, the Trudeau government wasn't expediting the process as people at risk in Afghanistan waited on tenterhooks for our government to give them a modicum of control over their predicament. Instead, for weeks, Trudeau was busy plotting his next move, weighing his options for taking more control of the Canadian government.

And after weeks of ignoring pleas for help from Afghanistan, and even as the Canadian embassy in Kabul was being closed as the Taliban took Kabul, Trudeau was waltzing into Rideau Hall with his pretty, perfectly safe family and his pretty, perfectly vacuous smile to ask our GG to let him have what he wanted, instead of doing the serious stuff for which he was already responsible. What effect did the erupting crisis in Afghanistan have on Trudeau's opportunistic power grab? None whatsoever.

"Oh, well, no big deal, Canada. We'll just express our sad feelings about Afghanistan and promise to take 20,000 refugees! That will make up for the bad optics of me not taking my job seriously, right?"
:up: :up: :up:
Consider how hard it is to change yourself and you'll understand what little chance you have of changing others.

The happiest of people don't necessarily have the best of everything, they just make the most of everything that comes their way.
User avatar
Gone_Fishin
Walks on Forum Water
Posts: 12482
Joined: Sep 6th, 2006, 7:43 am

Re: Canada accepting 20,000 Afghanistan's

Post by Gone_Fishin »

Trudeau has lots of blood on his hands from his complete failure during C-19.

Now this. Trudeau's Train Wreck just keeps getting worse and worse.

Former Afghan interpreter: Trudeau will have “blood on his hands” if families get executed


Sahar addressed Canada’s prime minister Justin Trudeau on CTV’s Power Play: “If my family gets executed, or any other family gets executed, know that you have the blood on your hands”

https://westphaliantimes.com/former-afg ... t-executed
ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

A smaller government makes room for bigger citizens.

"We know that Russia must win this war." ~ Justin Trudeau, Feb 26, 2024.
User avatar
nucksRnum1
Lord of the Board
Posts: 3027
Joined: Jul 2nd, 2021, 1:55 pm

Re: Canada accepting 20,000 Afghanistan's

Post by nucksRnum1 »

At the end of the day, Canada relied too much on US intelligence in regard to Afghanistan. Not 1 of the main contingents (US, UK, Can) saw the crumbling of the nation so quickly. It isn't the fault of the military and politicians that the Afghan's turned tail and ran within days. If the Afghan army would have done their job - any of the people that wanted to come to immigrate would have done so on their own timeline. Most of these Afghans wanted to be the change they were shown by the allied forces and stay. But that just didn't happen. How that is Trudeaus fault is crazy. The cudda, shudda and wuddah is irrelevant. Besides what's in the past is in the past. It's a clean slate. At least that's what I hear all the time from conservative shills. What's important is that Canada is bringing our comrades home right now.

Return to “Canada”