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foenix wrote: Aug 26th, 2021, 7:45 pm
Of course not, Canadians with a half a brain and not have their little partisan glasses blind them knows it wasn't JT's war in the first place.
and Canadians with a full brain and not have their little partisan glasses blind them will understand what a piece of garbage Justin Trudeau is for calling an election at this point, given how it was totally unnecessary.

The children running our government currently should have heeded the warning that Afghanistan was falling apart, and put aside politics to make sure that everyone was evacuated safely. Instead we had our idiot in chief call an election and just ignore them. What trash Justin Trudeau is.
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rustled wrote: Aug 26th, 2021, 7:34 pm
Trudeau's apologists seem to be the only ones willing to pretend it wasn't Trudeau's responsibility to meet the needs of Canadians and our allies in crisis in Afghanistan.
I don't see Trudeau abdicating his responsibility at all. This was a crazy operation :cuss: happened. This military endeavour is finally being done after too many years. Things have been better than people thought getting people out. Unfortunately, it is everything outside the airport that is fluid. You can't possibly plan an operation like this with so many variables.
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The Green Barbarian wrote: Aug 26th, 2021, 7:43 pm
foenix wrote: Aug 26th, 2021, 7:15 pm
Probably not, it's not free anymore. The only thing that plane would load is bunch of poppies for resale and not Afghanis.
This is just a foolish response
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Sooooo many of those from the apologists, most of them apparently intended to deflect from Trudeau's and Biden's inability to take their responsibilities to their citizens and allies seriously. It's definitely time for a leader who does understand the seriousness of governing, in the US and here in Canada.

There is no way a promise to take 20,000 refugees in the future can EVER make up Trudeau's neglect of the Canadians and allies who were asking his government to expedite the process of getting them out of Afghanistan, during the weeks leading up to August 15th.
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nucksRnum1 wrote: Aug 26th, 2021, 7:59 pm

I don't see Trudeau abdicating his responsibility at all.
Thankfully 35 million Canadians can see exactly how our idiot in chief has totally abdicated his responsibilities. Because he's a moronic imbecile. Thank goodness we have Erin O'Toole ready to take over and bring this country back to sanity. Go Erin!!
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This is the response from the Canadian government to those stuck in Afghanistan.
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Story on trudeau's failure in Afganistan.
National Post today.
Canada's National Humiliation in Afganistan.
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featfan wrote: Aug 29th, 2021, 10:57 am Story on trudeau's failure in Afganistan.
National Post today.
Canada's National Humiliation in Afganistan.
I saw it, and not a mention of Harper being blamed.
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bb49 wrote: Aug 27th, 2021, 2:03 pm This is the response from the Canadian government to those stuck in Afghanistan.

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i think that even jt's father pierre would be ashamed of his coward son at this time
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oldtrucker wrote: Aug 29th, 2021, 11:43 am The people that needed to get out knew that the clock was ticking for many months.
Is it really JT's fault that the situation has become so dangerous that it isn't practical or smart to risk further lives? What happens if one of those aircraft gets hit by a MANPAD or RPG? War is dynamic ....no one thought the country would fall this quick and maybe cancelling further flights is actually quite smart.
The Americans publicly announced last April they would be pulling out of Afghanistan by the end of August, privately America’s allies, including Canada undoubtedly knew about the pull out date long before April... There’s no justifiable excuse for the Trudeau government to wait until the eleventh hour to start rescuing Afghanistan citizens that were employed by the Canadian military.
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oldtrucker wrote: Aug 29th, 2021, 11:43 am The people that needed to get out knew that the clock was ticking for many months.
Is it really JT's fault that the situation has become so dangerous that it isn't practical or smart to risk further lives? What happens if one of those aircraft gets hit by a MANPAD or RPG? War is dynamic ....no one thought the country would fall this quick and maybe cancelling further flights is actually quite smart.
These people definitely knew well in advance, but Justin and crew fiddled and diddled and did nothing to help these people get their paperwork in order. Now they are totally screwed. Justin' team told a bunch of Afghans to wait by the gates dressed in red, and they would be helped, and no one showed up. Guess what, now everyone including the Taliban know that those people are collaborators with the infidel, and they have a good chance of being slaughtered, in some pretty gruesome ways. Great job Justin!
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The Green Barbarian wrote: Aug 29th, 2021, 1:38 pm
oldtrucker wrote: Aug 29th, 2021, 11:43 am The people that needed to get out knew that the clock was ticking for many months.
Is it really JT's fault that the situation has become so dangerous that it isn't practical or smart to risk further lives? What happens if one of those aircraft gets hit by a MANPAD or RPG? War is dynamic ....no one thought the country would fall this quick and maybe cancelling further flights is actually quite smart.
These people definitely knew well in advance, but Justin and crew fiddled and diddled and did nothing to help these people get their paperwork in order. Now they are totally screwed. Justin' team told a bunch of Afghans to wait by the gates dressed in red, and they would be helped, and no one showed up. Guess what, now everyone including the Taliban know that those people are collaborators with the infidel, and they have a good chance of being slaughtered, in some pretty gruesome ways. Great job Justin!
Trudeau didn't take the situation seriously - this sort of casual neglect is one of the defining hallmarks of his government.

Then, when it was obvious he'd failed the people for whom he was responsible, he tried to cover it up with a promise that shows he STILL doesn't take the situation or his responsibilities seriously - two more defining hallmarks of his government. The casual neglect of duty, inflated ego, vacuous promises.
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It is what it is. It's history now. Spilled milk. Let's see what we can all do better going forward.
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nucksRnum1 wrote: Aug 29th, 2021, 5:55 pm It is what it is. It's history now. Spilled milk. Let's see what we can all do better going forward.
Time for you to realize what side your toast is buttered on. If we ever need help from another nation our personnel will be screwed.


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So you are saying that after 20 years of war and conflict - and the countries who started the wars losing interest - not to mention shrinking budgets - that getting out being a mess is Bidens and Trudeau's fault? I am almost choking on the conservative bias. Which were the ones that started a 20-year war. If any responsibility should be taken - that's where it should start.
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nucksRnum1 wrote: Aug 29th, 2021, 7:42 pm So you are saying that after 20 years of war and conflict - and the countries who started the wars losing interest - not to mention shrinking budgets - that getting out being a mess is Bidens and Trudeau's fault? I am almost choking on the conservative bias. Which were the ones that started a 20-year war. If any responsibility should be taken - that's where it should start.
It's how we got out of Afghanistan. Getting into it and shrinking budgets (what the heck is that?) are not part of getting out of Afghanistan and accepting 20,000 Afghans.

It didn't help that Justin took off on an election campaign, and left his bureaucrats to clean up the mess.
https://nationalpost.com/news/politics/ ... fghanistan
“We have a couple of people who are trying to process thousands and thousands of applications, and it’s just not working,” Kevin Newman, a former journalist and volunteer with Veterans Transition Network told the CBC.
Andrew Rusk, co-founder of a group called Not Left Behind, suggested Canada’s few remaining officials were doing their best, but “because of our delays, because of the paperwork, because of the bureaucracy,


Canada had several months notice to get a realistic escape plan in place, but no, Trudeau had an election to look after.

And whoever started this war, it was not any Conservatives in Canada.
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