Gun Control
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- Generalissimo Postalot
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Re: Gun Control
Amazing how many on here think it's law abiding citizens that are the cause of the gun problem.
!!!! What a bunch of Mor**s
Those Liberal idiots ( most have to share a brain because there isn't a full one between them ), in 2019, yet again spend millions to go after law abiding citizens - and pat themselves on the back on the great job they did to solve the gun problem.
Oops - since then gun violence went up 47%, wow - that didn't work huh????
Duhhhh - maybe we should attack them again and it will scare the gangsters that are really causing the probme. So, hey - lets attack them again - since they are easy targets and there are so many stupid voters out there.
Get a grip - ever think that perhaps if you spend more time and all that money on GETTING RID OF THE DRUG GANGS, that might actually decrease the gun violence and get those illegal ones off the streets????
If they start going after the lowly street dealer, the big boys will soon run out of their salesmen and have to do it themselves which means - they will be exposing themselves - you know - like the crooked politicians, lawyers and cops on the take.
Naw - easier simply to keep harrassing joe citizen - keeps the dirty money flowing up hill to pad the political retirement funds sitting in swiss bank accounts!
Wake Up - it isn't about stopping guns or drugs - too much money floats uphill from that - it's more of the "Show" that makes it look like they are doing something about it - when it's quite the opposite.
Why do you think these twisted pieces of fecal material go into politics??
Give you one guess -
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!!!! What a bunch of Mor**s
Those Liberal idiots ( most have to share a brain because there isn't a full one between them ), in 2019, yet again spend millions to go after law abiding citizens - and pat themselves on the back on the great job they did to solve the gun problem.
Oops - since then gun violence went up 47%, wow - that didn't work huh????
Duhhhh - maybe we should attack them again and it will scare the gangsters that are really causing the probme. So, hey - lets attack them again - since they are easy targets and there are so many stupid voters out there.
Get a grip - ever think that perhaps if you spend more time and all that money on GETTING RID OF THE DRUG GANGS, that might actually decrease the gun violence and get those illegal ones off the streets????
If they start going after the lowly street dealer, the big boys will soon run out of their salesmen and have to do it themselves which means - they will be exposing themselves - you know - like the crooked politicians, lawyers and cops on the take.
Naw - easier simply to keep harrassing joe citizen - keeps the dirty money flowing up hill to pad the political retirement funds sitting in swiss bank accounts!
Wake Up - it isn't about stopping guns or drugs - too much money floats uphill from that - it's more of the "Show" that makes it look like they are doing something about it - when it's quite the opposite.
Why do you think these twisted pieces of fecal material go into politics??
Give you one guess -
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Re: Gun Control
Another classic Trudeau and MSM piece of misinformation:
"Tories would repeal gun ban
Trudeau criticizes Conservative plan to repeal Liberal ban on 'assault weapons'
Assault weapon is a term used to describe a selective fire firearm or automatic weapon, these have been prohibited in Canada since the 70s
Liberal Leader Justin Trudeau is accusing Conservative rival Erin O'Toole of pandering to the gun lobby with his promise to repeal a ban on what the government considers military-style assault weapons.
The reality is that Trudeau is pandering to uninformed Canadians who he would like to have believe that These legally purchased, restricted, and registered firearms owned by licensed vetted Canadians are the source of gun crime in Canada. Not so.
At a campaign stop in Vancouver today, Trudeau says it is inconceivable, at a time when Canadians are concerned about gun violence, that the Conservatives would pledge to reverse the measure.Once again none of Trudeau's gun control measures have done anything to make Canadians safer. All he has done is make life more difficult for law abiding licensed firearms owners, at the same time as Trudeau has reduced minimum sentencing for criminals convicted of crimes involving guns. Go figure, that makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.
In May last year, the Liberals banned some 1,500 firearm models, including the popular AR-15 rifle, meaning they cannot be legally used, sold or imported. And these newly prohibited firearms remain in the same secure safe storage that they were required to be in before Trudeau enacted the OIC
Earlier this year, they introduced legislation proposing a buyback of the banned firearms, though owners would be allowed to keep them under strict conditions, including registration and secure storage of the guns.You just can't fix stupid, someone has to tell Trudeau and Blair that most of these newly banned firearms (including the AR 15) were registered already as restricted firearms and already had to be stored securely
The legislation, which died with Parliament's recent dissolution, would also have allowed municipalities to ban handguns through bylaws restricting their possession, storage and transportation. Municipalities have no business in control of firearms, it is federal law.
The Conservative platform says the party would scrap the May 2020 ban and review the Firearms Act with input from police, gun owners, manufacturers and the public."
The latest change from bill C-71 rescinded the ATT (authorization to transport) conditions attached to a firearms license so that a licensed firearm owner now has to phone in Monday to Friday 9:00-5:00 and request a temporary ATT in order to take a restricted firearm to a police station, gunsmith or gun show.
Somehow I don't see any criminals calling for an ATT to have an illegally acquired and possessed firearm for going from A to B.
Nor do any criminals have an ATC (authorization to carry) for the illegally acquired and possessed firearm in their waistband.
All that Trudeau and Blair have done is waste vast amounts of money, time and manpower.
Simply put, why do Trudeau and Blair go after criminals instead of Law abiding citizens ?
I am truly saddened by the of lack of ethics shown by Trudeau and the Liberals on "Gun Control"
https://www.castanet.net/news/Canada/34 ... ons#343234
"Tories would repeal gun ban
Trudeau criticizes Conservative plan to repeal Liberal ban on 'assault weapons'
Assault weapon is a term used to describe a selective fire firearm or automatic weapon, these have been prohibited in Canada since the 70s
Liberal Leader Justin Trudeau is accusing Conservative rival Erin O'Toole of pandering to the gun lobby with his promise to repeal a ban on what the government considers military-style assault weapons.
The reality is that Trudeau is pandering to uninformed Canadians who he would like to have believe that These legally purchased, restricted, and registered firearms owned by licensed vetted Canadians are the source of gun crime in Canada. Not so.
At a campaign stop in Vancouver today, Trudeau says it is inconceivable, at a time when Canadians are concerned about gun violence, that the Conservatives would pledge to reverse the measure.Once again none of Trudeau's gun control measures have done anything to make Canadians safer. All he has done is make life more difficult for law abiding licensed firearms owners, at the same time as Trudeau has reduced minimum sentencing for criminals convicted of crimes involving guns. Go figure, that makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.
In May last year, the Liberals banned some 1,500 firearm models, including the popular AR-15 rifle, meaning they cannot be legally used, sold or imported. And these newly prohibited firearms remain in the same secure safe storage that they were required to be in before Trudeau enacted the OIC
Earlier this year, they introduced legislation proposing a buyback of the banned firearms, though owners would be allowed to keep them under strict conditions, including registration and secure storage of the guns.You just can't fix stupid, someone has to tell Trudeau and Blair that most of these newly banned firearms (including the AR 15) were registered already as restricted firearms and already had to be stored securely
The legislation, which died with Parliament's recent dissolution, would also have allowed municipalities to ban handguns through bylaws restricting their possession, storage and transportation. Municipalities have no business in control of firearms, it is federal law.
The Conservative platform says the party would scrap the May 2020 ban and review the Firearms Act with input from police, gun owners, manufacturers and the public."
The latest change from bill C-71 rescinded the ATT (authorization to transport) conditions attached to a firearms license so that a licensed firearm owner now has to phone in Monday to Friday 9:00-5:00 and request a temporary ATT in order to take a restricted firearm to a police station, gunsmith or gun show.
Somehow I don't see any criminals calling for an ATT to have an illegally acquired and possessed firearm for going from A to B.
Nor do any criminals have an ATC (authorization to carry) for the illegally acquired and possessed firearm in their waistband.
All that Trudeau and Blair have done is waste vast amounts of money, time and manpower.
Simply put, why do Trudeau and Blair go after criminals instead of Law abiding citizens ?
I am truly saddened by the of lack of ethics shown by Trudeau and the Liberals on "Gun Control"
https://www.castanet.net/news/Canada/34 ... ons#343234
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Re: Gun Control
^^
mike2.
It seems to me the Trudeau Liberals genuinely think most Canadians are stupid, easily manipulated, and unable to see through them.
Notice the press used scare quotes around "assault rifles" in this headline. Maybe they're tired of being complicit.


It seems to me the Trudeau Liberals genuinely think most Canadians are stupid, easily manipulated, and unable to see through them.
Notice the press used scare quotes around "assault rifles" in this headline. Maybe they're tired of being complicit.
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Re: Gun Control
Criminals will find a way to get guns... https://www.castanet.net/news/BC/343457 ... ver#343457crookedmember wrote: ↑Aug 9th, 2021, 7:58 pm Almost every gun owner is law-abiding until the day he decides to take out a school, church or movie theatre.
That's why handguns and assault weapons will always be restricted in Canada.
You want guns-everywhere and the mayhem that goes with it, move south.
Gun control simply doesn't work too well - if someone wants to kill themselves, they'll find another way if they can't get a gun. The criminals will resort to ghost guns - or 3d printed guns.
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Re: Gun Control
After watching this fiasco for more years than I can mention,I can only conclude that they are not doing this for "public" safety,they are doing it for their "own" safety because they are going to bring down more fascist crap on our heads.
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Re: Gun Control
puterbrother wrote: ↑Aug 20th, 2021, 10:36 pm After watching this fiasco for more years than I can mention,I can only conclude that they are not doing this for "public" safety,they are doing it for their "own" safety because they are going to bring down more fascist crap on our heads.
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Re: Gun Control
Recent opinion polls on the top election issues show that more gun control is top of mind for 2% of Canadians.
Another massive misjudgment by Justin Trudeau on what Canadians really want. He's completely out of touch with Canadians!
Another massive misjudgment by Justin Trudeau on what Canadians really want. He's completely out of touch with Canadians!
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Re: Gun Control
Self removed.
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- Generalissimo Postalot
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Re: Gun Control
Best way to control guns is to control the drug trade and the gangs - not having useless politicians shirk their responsibility, by instead attacking those that cause no problem, then patting themselves on the back as "job well done".
This useless government and the just as useless RCMP can't get the real bad guys, so to make it look like they are doing something they attack law abiding citizens.
In 2019 they were doing high 5's with their so called "Gun Restrictions" - 2 years later they are saying gun crime is up 47% - nice work you useless political piece of C***. Just like a politician to try and cover up tier stupidity and lack of foresight.
Guess they are afraid of the drug gangs - just like true cowardly politicians - no guts - just a unique talent of being able to speak a bunch of words yet say absolutely nothing.
Funny how I was brought up to believe that the Government worked for us - the voters - HA - now isn't that the joke of the century.
My suspicion is that they don't want to go after the drug gangs - might interfere with their under the table payoffs.
This useless government and the just as useless RCMP can't get the real bad guys, so to make it look like they are doing something they attack law abiding citizens.
In 2019 they were doing high 5's with their so called "Gun Restrictions" - 2 years later they are saying gun crime is up 47% - nice work you useless political piece of C***. Just like a politician to try and cover up tier stupidity and lack of foresight.
Guess they are afraid of the drug gangs - just like true cowardly politicians - no guts - just a unique talent of being able to speak a bunch of words yet say absolutely nothing.
Funny how I was brought up to believe that the Government worked for us - the voters - HA - now isn't that the joke of the century.
My suspicion is that they don't want to go after the drug gangs - might interfere with their under the table payoffs.
Compliance is a tool used by dictators, to take your freedom and never give it back.
Enjoy your new "Slave State"!
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Re: Gun Control
^^^ the black market is alive and surviving very well in Canada. Government of Canada hasn’t even put dent into it.
I don't give a damn whether people/posters like me or dislike me, I'm not on earth to win any popularity contests.
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- Grand Pooh-bah
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Re: Gun Control
Further to this:mikest2 wrote: ↑Aug 18th, 2021, 2:56 pm Another classic Trudeau and MSM piece of misinformation:
"Tories would repeal gun ban
Trudeau criticizes Conservative plan to repeal Liberal ban on 'assault weapons'
Assault weapon is a term used to describe a selective fire firearm or automatic weapon, these have been prohibited in Canada since the 70s
- * Canada has no legislation that defines "assault weapons". We have "Unrestricted", "Restricted", and "Prohibited".
* None of the measures that Trudeau put in place banned any "assault weapons", by any definition. The firearms that were added to the "Prohibited" list were previously either "Unrestricted" or "Restricted". No fully-automatic (or select-fire, which is still fully-automatic) firearms were previously permitted to be owned by civilians.
* The only people in Canada that have access to - and use - "Prohibited" firearms are military and criminals. Even law-enforcement do not use "Prohibited" firearms. They do use "Restricted" firearms as a matter of execution of their duties - and are subject to their RPAL restrictions when not performing their duties.
* Civilians are severely restricted in their use of "Restricted" firearms - they can only be used for sport at a range, and if you own one you must be a member of a range.
(Off-topic, but this all coming from a leader who's own father had a hand in Indigenous oppression - yet he's not acknowledged that stain, a leader who felt that blackface was acceptable not but 20 years ago, a leader who interfered with the criminal investigation into the SNC-Lavalin affair when it was found to have been trying to buy favour from federal parties, and a leader who prorogued parliament parliament to put a halt into the WE Charity scandal - a move he promised in 2015 that he would never do.)
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Re: Gun Control
Thankfully we now have 3d printed guns, which are actually very effective.
Gun control doesn't mean what some people think it means. It means only the government gets to own guns. If you think thats a good idea, I recommend reading a history book
Gun control doesn't mean what some people think it means. It means only the government gets to own guns. If you think thats a good idea, I recommend reading a history book
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Re: Gun Control
YouTube
Runkle of the Bailey
He is a Canadian criminal defence and firearms lawyer.
Some really good videos.
He has over 200.
Click videos on his home page to see all of his stuff.
I find it strange from one of his videos that the SS-211 shorty shotgun is unrestricted.
Good bush gun for big animals charging you or a home invader.
YouTube or Google search for Sulan Arms SS-211 range test and review.
Runkle of the Bailey
He is a Canadian criminal defence and firearms lawyer.
Some really good videos.
He has over 200.
Click videos on his home page to see all of his stuff.
I find it strange from one of his videos that the SS-211 shorty shotgun is unrestricted.
Good bush gun for big animals charging you or a home invader.
YouTube or Google search for Sulan Arms SS-211 range test and review.
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Re: Gun Control
Read the first paragraph and see how this applies directly to Trudeau and his Liberals. The Taliban are demanding everyone give up their firearms.
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/20 ... dents.html
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/20 ... dents.html
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- Grand Pooh-bah
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Re: Gun Control
Once again Trudeau doubles down on stupidity. How about you go after criminals, what a bunch of dolts
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But it also includes new pledges, including an $800-million promise to force people who own banned assault weapons to either sell their guns back to the government or have them “rendered permanently inoperable.” The Liberals had previously said this buyback program would be voluntary.
In other efforts to curb gun violence, the party says it will ban the sale or transfer of magazines that can hold more than a legal number of bullets, and earmark $1 billion in support to provinces and territories that choose to implement a ban on handguns.
https://www.thestar.com/politics/federa ... 9vzcx0dAe0
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But it also includes new pledges, including an $800-million promise to force people who own banned assault weapons to either sell their guns back to the government or have them “rendered permanently inoperable.” The Liberals had previously said this buyback program would be voluntary.
In other efforts to curb gun violence, the party says it will ban the sale or transfer of magazines that can hold more than a legal number of bullets, and earmark $1 billion in support to provinces and territories that choose to implement a ban on handguns.
https://www.thestar.com/politics/federa ... 9vzcx0dAe0
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