What we can expect in the third millennium

[BC Landlord]

Apparently, Mr. Singh's (the NDP leader) solution to all our fiscal ills is to hike taxes on Canadian billionaires. On all 100 of them! What a joke. But it appeals to gullible.

[foenix]

Is that a serious question? CRA -vs- the ultra-wealthy's tax lawyers? It's not even a fair fight. But that's not the discussion here is it? The question was if the ultra wealthy are avoiding paying taxes in Canada and the answer to that question is........most definitely they are. That's the motivation for taxing the ultra-wealthy/wealthy because they are the ones hiding their money off-shore and get them to pay their share of taxes for Canada. You find something wrong with that?

No, the question was whether or not a 'wealth tax' would work...

No that wasn't the original discussion. You just think that because you crashed the discussion in the middle of a discussion.

Here's the original sequence......

[quote ="Ka-el"]

On the one hand you acknowledge the gap between the ultra-rich and the poorest has grown, and that it is the middle class who is stuck paying for the social programs. What do the ultra rich fear? Paying taxes like everyone else?

Nope ....

Not being able to earn a reward for the risk they take using their own money to make more ... Meantime providing people an opportunity to better themselves by having a decent paying job , that make the employer money ..

I know it sounds "weird" to you Ka el , but that's how it works ..

The rich DO pay taxes . Every dollar I make has a deduction for "social" programs ( CPP . OAS , EI ) and the "ultra rich" employer matches those deduction.. If THAT isn't a tax , that the "ultra poor" DON'T pay but get to collect for doing nothing , I'll eat your hat.

To which I replied.......

Really, could have fooled me......

Wealth tax would raise far more money than previously thought

Inequality has reached new heights in Canada in recent years. The richest 1% now control 25% of Canada’s wealth, according to a recent Parliamentary Budget Office (PBO) report. Research from the Canadian Centre for Policy Alternatives shows that the 87 richest families in the country each hold, on average, 4,448 times more wealth than the typical family. Together these 87 families hold more wealth than the bottom 12 million Canadians combined.

Inequality is linked to worse performance on a wide range of health and social outcomes, as international epidemiological research shows. High levels of inequality also damage economic growth, as organizations like the IMF and OECD have begun to acknowledge in recent years.

Tackling inequality with a wealth tax on the super rich is hugely popular, backed by an overwhelming majority of Canadians across party lines in the most recent polling. This approach is also supported by a growing body of economic research and analysis.

This paper provides a new estimate of the revenue potential of a wealth tax using up-to-date national accounts data and estimating tax avoidance and evasion based on the latest academic research. A 1% tax on wealth over $20 million in Canada would generate about $10 billion in revenue in its first year, substantially more than the commonly cited estimate of $5.6 billion.

With a $10 billion boost to annual public revenues, Canada could lift hundreds of thousands of people out of poverty, implement long-term increases to funding for important social programs like child care, health care and seniors care, and help pay for more ambitious climate action.

So no the original discussion was MAPearce saying the the rich do pay tax........and that's where all the discussions about wealth tax and tax evasion by the rich started.

[Catsumi]

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Post by Ka-El » Aug 24th, 2021, 7:50 am

As a futurist I believe we are going to see some amazing and incredible developments in the next 100 years. With the acceleration in the rate of technological advancement already underway, I think we are going to see some incredible advances made even in the next ten years (our development and use of virtual communication, for example, increased dramatically over the last couple of years due to the pandemic). This accelerated rate of change is going to present humankind with significant economic and social challenges, but some of what might be possible is very exciting.
20 events we can expect in the third millennium

Humans have tried to predict the future for thousands of years, with limited success. “We’re usually pretty bad at it, but there’s always been a Cassandra or a Delphic oracle, a Sibyl or a Nostradamus willing to make the attempt,” according to Futurism. Some speculative fiction has been surprisingly accurate; the 1962 comic strip The Jetsons, set in 2062, predicted the rise of video calls and flat-screen TVs. Here is some of what humanity might expect in the year 2100 and in the year 3000, according to climate and space scientists and futurists.

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/technolo ... li=AAggNb9

[Rejigger]

Could this millennium be the 'Mars millennium?'
"The Mars Millennium Project 2030 - Artists, Scientists, Engineers and Astronauts"
https://mmp.planetary.org

"The Mars Millennium Project 2030 is a national arts sciences and technology education initiative sponsored jointly by NASA, NASA/JPL, the J. Paul Getty Trust, the National Endowment for the Arts, the Department of Education, and the White House Millennium Council."

A little bit of history on the Mars Millenium Project...

"January 22, 1999
Washington, DC - First Lady Hillary Rodham Clinton announced on January 14 the launch of the Mars Millennium Project, an official White House Millennium Council youth initiative that will challenge kindergarten through high-school students to design the first community on Mars. The J. Paul Getty Trust is a partner in guiding the project, along with the U.S. Department of Education, the National Endowment for the Arts, the National Aeronautics and Space Administration and its Jet Propulsion Laboratory, and the White House Millennium Council. In addition, many other public and private organizations as well as leading corporations and businesses will participate."

This project is taking awhile to get off the ground, so to speak.

Some would argue that those resources should be spent making THIS planet more inhabitable, not making another planet inhabitable. There may be something to that argument.
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[Ka-El]

Could this millennium be the 'Mars millennium?'

Interesting developments and considerations …

The Era of Private Space Travel Has Arrived — But How Did We Get Here?

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A New Age

SpaceX is set to go into partnership with NASA to get the first woman and the next man on the moon in 2024. Meanwhile, Sir Richard Branson and Jeff Bezos have both successfully launched into space to kick-start space tourism. "Now we have the spectacle of fabulously wealthy figureheads engaged in a whole new race into space, with a return to the moon and even Mars on their radars," says Burgess. "Without this commercial effort, such things would undoubtedly be decades instead of years away."

https://www.travelandleisure.com/trip-i ... m-timeline

The Pros And Cons Of Privatizing Space Exploration

What are the pros and cons of privatizing space exploration? The premise is too binary. The objective isn’t to hand over space exploration to the private sector. The objective is to expand upon the utilization of space by finding opportunities where the private sector could benefit.

The role of government in space exploration is to do the things that the market can’t support, but the people agree are beneficial. When we send a spacecraft like New Horizons to take close up pictures of Pluto, we do so because, as a people, we understand that science is important. We understand that learning about the universe is good for our society. We understand that knowledge has value for its own sake and that we often cannot predict how that knowledge may have additional practical value at some later time. This kind of exploration simply isn’t practical for the private sector because there isn’t a way to, in the near term, make a return on the investment.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/quora/2017 ... ploration/

[Rejigger]

As a futurist I believe we are going to see some amazing and incredible developments in the next 100 years.

20 events we can expect in the third millennium .
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/technolo ... li=AAggNb9

SUMMARY:
20 events we can expect in the third millennium:

Significant sea level rise (*check*)
A noticeably warmer Earth (*check*)
Overall climate shift (*check*)
Humans will live longer (*check*, but covid's working on this problem)
The dilution of skin colour (*check*)
Larger babies, larger adults (*check*)
Evolution will favour the pretty (*check*)
More data on smaller supports (*check*)
Synthetic meat (*check*)
Self-driving cars (*check*)
3D printers will allow people to create nearly everything (*check*)
Humans will be able to create living organisms in a lab (*check*)
Computers will outsmart the human mind (*check*)
There will be far fewer languages in the world (*check*)
Telepathy will be a real thing (*check* hello, twins?)

Humans will go to Mars, and potentially settle there (*partial check*, gettin' there)
Extraterrestrial life may be found (*partial check*, but how will we ever know in detail?)
Sensors and chips will “connect” your body (*partial check*, bionics exist)
The human brain will be fully mapped
No, the sun will not explode (why is this on the list if it's a "No"?)

CONCLUSION:
A lot of these things are already happening. Was this article from 1984?
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[Queen K]

BUMP

Did anyone have Under the B, "Living Skin on Robots"?

Because Japan is working on it to be a thing by the third millennium. Why do I see scenes from Blade Runner flashing before my eyes?



https://www.castanet.net/edition/news-s ... htm#372245

Perhaps one of its most human-like characteristics is the skin’s ability to self-heal. If it’s damaged, researchers found that a collagen bandage can be applied to regrow where the injury took place. This method was inspired by the skin-grafting techniques that are often employed when a human’s skin is deeply burned, the study states.

Although this skin won’t survive as natural human skin does due to its lack of nutrients and waste disposal, Takeuchi said it’s an important first step in creating a robot that looks entirely "real."

“I think living skin is the ultimate solution to give robots the look and touch of living creatures since it is exactly the same material that covers animal bodies," Takeuchi said.

What's next? This research team plans to develop nails, sweat glands, hair follicles and sensory neurons in an effort to make robots as lifelike as possible.

[GordonH]

Since Nostradamus predicted the end of humanity in/or around 2039, it really doesn’t matter what happens in the year 3000.

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Since Nostradamus predicted the end of humanity in/or around 2039, it really doesn’t matter what happens in the year 3000.

Thanks! That makes retirement planning so much easier.

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[MalaPropina]

Since Nostradamus predicted the end of humanity in/or around 2039, it really doesn’t matter what happens in the year 3000.

Actually Nostradamus' predictions go up to end of year 3793. That is presumably the end of the world.

In 2039 there are great meteor showers, pieces of comets for 3 nights. Then massive earthquakes of stupendous magnitude.

[Rejigger]

Actually Nostradamus' predictions go up to end of year 3793. That is presumably the end of the world.

In 2039 there are great meteor showers, pieces of comets for 3 nights. Then massive earthquakes of stupendous magnitude.

Does he blame global warming for this?

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