A Lack of Kindness
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There's a pretty big segment of society pushing individualism aka libertarianism. This is a part of it. We can't get anything done if we're just herding cats. We have to work and live together. I don't experience much rudeness in my day to day interactions so can't comment much on that. I do find most people to be kind.Lady tehMa wrote: ↑Sep 5th, 2021, 9:29 amI agree that good manners are a kindness. I do know people who weren't raised with manners and acquired them later on their own. And I know people who were raised with manners where it just "didn't take". I tend to see it as a mark of character if someone has manners, and a telling lack of character if they do not. People with manners are more likely to be kind, in my experience.
I have been thinking about this topic, though. In years past, people were raised with an awareness of their responsibility to the community. Since about the '60s or so (by my estimation, feel free to share your own thoughts) the concept of the self as being more important than the community has been growing. Simply put, people are becoming more selfish. It's all about me-me-me and to heck with the rest. With that trend comes a distinct lack of responsibility - an unwillingness to shoulder any obligation to society, or to do for others. This makes for a pretty toxic culture, in my opinion.
Edit: and yes, normaM, a lack of empathy.
Another part is how we live. So many people in boxes in buildings (condos) who work remotely, order food through apps. Kids who grow up without yards or much access to real nature. Then add in a pandemic. We're not physically around each other as much. We're a social species and just being around each other is necessary to mental health and reinforcing how to treat other people and form relationships. It's not the fault of the internet though, it's memetic evolution. Our brains aren't wired to adapt as fast as society is changing. We'll get there and when we do future technology will have far surpassed where we caught up to. I see it as an issue that will take several generations to work out. We're so damn impatient.
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Which boils down to a loss of community, doesn't it ? I always enjoyed visiting parts of Vancouver that had grown into little "micro-towns", each with their own collection of retail necessities and social outlets, maybe a little green space. All your needs within walking distance and familiar faces on a daily basis. People just seem happier in that sort of environment.JLives wrote: ↑Sep 6th, 2021, 1:31 amAnother part is how we live. So many people in boxes in buildings (condos) who work remotely, order food through apps. Kids who grow up without yards or much access to real nature. Then add in a pandemic. We're not physically around each other as much. We're a social species and just being around each other is necessary to mental health and reinforcing how to treat other people and form relationships. It's not the fault of the internet though, it's memetic evolution. Our brains aren't wired to adapt as fast as society is changing. We'll get there and when we do future technology will have far surpassed where we caught up to. I see it as an issue that will take several generations to work out. We're so damn impatient.
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You know when Diana got killed, the media tried to say the people were to blame for being interested in everything she did?
And you know how Canada's BIGGEST TWO-FACE Justin Trudeau tried to say there is "systemic racism" in Canada?
And you know how you and many others are trying to say "People aren't very nice any more?"
It's all not true. We're all good, decent, polite, and nice. We're all kind, calm, and the biggest 'obeyers' of our leaders in human history and we'll take every abuse our leaders heap on our head. because we're nice. We're considerate. We're polite.
We're too good.
but we're really really dumb.
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It really does boil down to a loss of community. I'd love to see people offered incentives to move to the smaller communities to build them up.fluffy wrote: ↑Sep 6th, 2021, 6:33 amWhich boils down to a loss of community, doesn't it ? I always enjoyed visiting parts of Vancouver that had grown into little "micro-towns", each with their own collection of retail necessities and social outlets, maybe a little green space. All your needs within walking distance and familiar faces on a daily basis. People just seem happier in that sort of environment.JLives wrote: ↑Sep 6th, 2021, 1:31 amAnother part is how we live. So many people in boxes in buildings (condos) who work remotely, order food through apps. Kids who grow up without yards or much access to real nature. Then add in a pandemic. We're not physically around each other as much. We're a social species and just being around each other is necessary to mental health and reinforcing how to treat other people and form relationships. It's not the fault of the internet though, it's memetic evolution. Our brains aren't wired to adapt as fast as society is changing. We'll get there and when we do future technology will have far surpassed where we caught up to. I see it as an issue that will take several generations to work out. We're so damn impatient.
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If there is a lack of kindness (and not that it can be accurately measured), then instead of complaining, one should supplant the missing kindness (online or offline). It is better than perplexing over a missing quantity. It is easy to be kind without complaining, in fact it is the smallest of all crosses.
My neighbour gave me fresh home grown tomatoes last week. That was really sweet of him, and they were the best tomatoes I’ve ever eaten. Sometimes I surprise him and his buddies with pizza or beer. As Canadians we are always polite and helpful. Sometimes I shovel my sidewalk and include my neighbours adding a little more callous to my hands and sweat on my brows. As difficult as it is to see a smile through a mask, a gentle reminder that it is happening.
If one can see the value of community and humanity then kindness and empathy have found a place inside to be nurtured. All those qualities boil down to “love your neighbour”.
My neighbour gave me fresh home grown tomatoes last week. That was really sweet of him, and they were the best tomatoes I’ve ever eaten. Sometimes I surprise him and his buddies with pizza or beer. As Canadians we are always polite and helpful. Sometimes I shovel my sidewalk and include my neighbours adding a little more callous to my hands and sweat on my brows. As difficult as it is to see a smile through a mask, a gentle reminder that it is happening.
If one can see the value of community and humanity then kindness and empathy have found a place inside to be nurtured. All those qualities boil down to “love your neighbour”.
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My friend treated me at the El yesterday - she is a kind soul :)
You can buld a sense of community anywhere, doesn't have to be a small town.
Heck, we even have yearly block parties -
You can buld a sense of community anywhere, doesn't have to be a small town.
Heck, we even have yearly block parties -
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Block parties are a great idea!
Once you get to know your neighbors, the whole world feels better.
Once you get to know your neighbors, the whole world feels better.
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I'll bet that only you could say that to my face ..I totally agree with that. The availability of a platform for instant and faceless communication with little or no accountability immediately gave us a visible erosion in basic courtesy and respect online.
Anonymity turns people in to Jerks as they don't have to own what they say to others under that veil ....
Good post Fluffy .
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well then you won't turn them in for noise LOL
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Watched an interesting commentary re; back to work Sunday.
What was noted is that remote working is a way of the future.
Not for all, but some.
Raised in the discussion is that peoples appearance and manners will slide.
Working at home lowers the bar, and the requirement for civility and decent manners towards fellow workers.
Not to mention a requirement for some form of dress code.
Does this mean sweat pants and flip flops will be the norm?
What was noted is that remote working is a way of the future.
Not for all, but some.
Raised in the discussion is that peoples appearance and manners will slide.
Working at home lowers the bar, and the requirement for civility and decent manners towards fellow workers.
Not to mention a requirement for some form of dress code.
Does this mean sweat pants and flip flops will be the norm?
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If ONLY i wasn't doing the laundry and caught that ... Bet it was " good" ...
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I see a few people have mentioned empathy and it was my first thought too. Treat everyone the way you want to be treated. It's that easy.
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Kindness starts by just being a good neighbor ..
We've been programmed to forget that ..
Sad really .
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