Record Labour Shortages in Restaurant Industry

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GordonH wrote: Sep 12th, 2021, 8:46 pm
nucksRnum1 wrote: Sep 12th, 2021, 8:30 pm

That's because franchise joints and tourism employers are the biggest predators of low-wage suckers. And everyone knows it now.
Then I guess customers will need to dig much deeper into their wallets to pay for these services. Good luck with that.
Up until recently, we understood fast food places like A&W and McDonalds provided terrific opportunities for teens to get work experience and earn their own spending money, and for patrons to get a quick and relatively inexpensive meal.

Today, we are expected to believe the people working in them are all parents with household expenses and rent or mortgages to pay.
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rustled wrote: Sep 13th, 2021, 7:42 amUp until recently, we understood fast food places like A&W and McDonalds provided terrific opportunities for teens to get work experience and earn their own spending money, and for patrons to get a quick and relatively inexpensive meal.

Today, we are expected to believe the people working in them are all parents with household expenses and rent or mortgages to pay.
The fact that many freedom 55 and pensioners work in McDonald's - is based on obvious observation when in a Mcdonald's. If kids don't have to work - why would they? Today youth/young adults want better jobs than franchise operations. And there is nothing wrong with that.
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nucksRnum1 wrote: Sep 13th, 2021, 9:43 am The fact that many freedom 55 and pensioners work in McDonald's - is based on obvious observation when in a Mcdonald's. If kids don't have to work - why would they?
Why would they? Is it all about the benjamins for you? Seriously?
Today youth/young adults want better jobs than franchise operations. And there is nothing wrong with that.
Yeah, actually there is something wrong with that. Paying one's dues is a good thing. For a number of reasons.
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They actually specifically put on it that sign F/T shifts available too.

Let's go, Millenials! There's your chance!
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Rejigger wrote: Sep 13th, 2021, 11:00 amYeah, actually there is something wrong with that. Paying one's dues is a good thing. For a number of reasons. ~
Perfect. If paying one's dues is paramount - then they should all be union sites as well. Because seniority and working your way up to the top is important.
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There is a huge and growing labour pool of retirees for restaurants. Why not just cut the benefits to them and then viola! So many 55 and over people will be looking to work. Since we all think that previous generations were less lazy, much more dedicated then it would help eliminate those complaints as well.
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oldtrucker wrote: Sep 14th, 2021, 11:19 am May the 'Old boys'/sunshine tax club of Kelowna fall.....and may it fall hard.
I was talking everyone. Just cut the CPP and OAS. See you just created a new pool of workers. Since they were used to 5 or 10 dollars a day when they were younger, they won't mind the current minimum wage.
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AlienSoldier wrote: Sep 14th, 2021, 11:57 am
oldtrucker wrote: Sep 14th, 2021, 11:19 am May the 'Old boys'/sunshine tax club of Kelowna fall.....and may it fall hard.
I was talking everyone. Just cut the CPP and OAS. See you just created a new pool of workers. Since they were used to 5 or 10 dollars a day when they were younger, they won't mind the current minimum wage.
You're funny!

Cut CPP? Again? CPP is a pension plan that they would have contributed to while working, and only while working. Pension collection depends on what they've contributed throughout their working life. Why cut that? Plus, contributions go up each and every year as mandated by the government. In fact, stats have shown that anyone born before 1970 contributed more to CPP than they'll take out while those born after 1970 will take more from it than they will contribute.

Cut OAS? Trudeau's already doing that! Seniors will soon have to wait two more years before collecting it.

Also, OAS doesn't even begin to get clawed back until one earns almost $80k/year. Seniors can still work without their OAS being affected so long as they don't earn over ~$80 per person, per year, ~$160k per couple, per year. Blows your mind, doesn't it?

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Even Steven wrote: Sep 13th, 2021, 11:36 am They actually specifically put on it that sign F/T shifts available too.

Let's go, Millenials! There's your chance!
The millenials are all in their 30's and 40's now, well established in their careers, with mortgages to pay and kids to feed. Oops.
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JayByrd wrote: Sep 14th, 2021, 1:39 pm
Even Steven wrote: Sep 13th, 2021, 11:36 am They actually specifically put on it that sign F/T shifts available too.

Let's go, Millenials! There's your chance!
The millenials are all in their 30's and 40's now, well established in their careers, with mortgages to pay and kids to feed. Oops.
What your saying is we should all be thankful that Boomers are helping out where needed because not everyone can. That's very nice of Boomers, yes?

But, yeah, c'mon young people, go get those jobs!
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Rejigger wrote: Sep 14th, 2021, 1:55 pm .

What your saying is we should all be thankful that Boomers are helping out where needed because not everyone can. That's very nice of Boomers, yes?

But, yeah, c'mon young people, go get those jobs!
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I'm not saying anything like that. People usually work because they need the money, not to "help out".

I'm not personally concerned about a business closing because they can't staff their store. As I said earlier, it's an unfortunate casualty of a free market system. I'm sorry for the people who *are* working there who face upheaval in their jobs, but that's how she goes.
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I am beginning to think of the Edwardian era’s shift: the number of domestic servants was greatly reduced because fewer of the young folks stuck around. They found other employers.
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JayByrd wrote: Sep 14th, 2021, 3:20 pm
Rejigger wrote: Sep 14th, 2021, 1:55 pm What you're saying is we should all be thankful that Boomers are helping out where needed because not everyone can. That's very nice of Boomers, yes?
But, yeah, c'mon young people, go get those jobs!
I'm not saying anything like that. People usually work because they need the money, not to "help out".

I'm not personally concerned about a business closing because they can't staff their store. As I said earlier, it's an unfortunate casualty of a free market system. I'm sorry for the people who *are* working there who face upheaval in their jobs, but that's how she goes.
Ugh, this again? It's not a free market when the government is competing with business - which is what they're doing by paying people the CRB.

CRB ---> payments from the government for doing nothing ---> socialism ---> NOT free market

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I’m curious if anyone else thinks that perhaps a whack of people retired due to the pandemic and there has been a leveling-up of sorts in the workforce. The largest generation in modern history is getting set to retire. Market forces, baby, market forces.
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