Crane collapse downtown

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Like that mill explosions up north years ago.
I wonder why they didn't release the findings of the Tolko boom tug that sank two or so years back ?
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Oh Man... time always seems to pass much too quickly. It happened Jan. 30, 2017; more than 4 and a half years ago.

Looks like they did release the findings, although I sure wasn't aware of it until now.

https://globalnews.ca/news/5209630/non- ... -drowning/

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I got more curious about the tugboat incident report contents, so I found the report from the horses mouth (so to speak).

Full report from WorkSafe:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1FlGYgk ... sp=sharing

Very detailed; hopefully we can expect similar detail from the crane incident investigation.

I had to download it to share it so the link is to the PDF file on my Google cloud drive with public access. Hope it works for you.
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MAPearce wrote: Sep 14th, 2021, 4:59 pm
Like that mill explosions up north years ago.
I wonder why they didn't release the findings of the Tolko boom tug that sank two or so years back ?
Because it wasn't published on Castanet. All that was needed was a little more research.....
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alanjh595 wrote: Sep 15th, 2021, 7:25 pm
MAPearce wrote: Sep 14th, 2021, 4:59 pm

I wonder why they didn't release the findings of the Tolko boom tug that sank two or so years back ?
Because it wasn't published on Castanet. All that was needed was a little more research.....
Yeah by "release" I mean publicly broadcast . You have to go look .

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nucksRnum1 wrote: Sep 14th, 2021, 4:57 pm
MAPearce wrote: Sep 14th, 2021, 4:10 pmI know , right ??? But Nucks has a good point .

It's why causes of fatal accidents are often keep quiet .
Worksafe has to do the investigation squeaky clean and by the book. Otherwise they will be investigated and taken to court. Like that mill explosions up north years ago.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/br ... e21280437/
In case anyone is interested, here's the WorkSafe report for the Lakeland Mills incident too:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Bqkuxw ... sp=sharing

I haven't read it all and I offer no opinion. It's downloaded from WorkSafe and shared from my google drive as I did with the above tug incident report. Hope I'm not drifting the topic here; WorkSafe seems quite relevant to the topic at hand.

These reports read very much like the USA's NTSB (National Transportation Safety Board) aircraft crash reports.
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motokelowna1 wrote: Jul 13th, 2021, 3:52 pm Response time is critical and one thing that needs a look at is the bridge. It needs a 3rd lane (Emergency) into Kelowna as we were on the bridge as the West Kelowna Emergency was trying to get through. Planning needs to be done now.
This is a very important take away. I unfortunately saw the whole incident happen and the response to recover the injured worker who fell and was stuck on the crane platform 100 ft up took over 8 hours to get him down, they didn't know what to do. We need Emergency Response Training for high-rise as we are going to continue building these in Kelowna.
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8 hours to do a high angle rescue. Damnit. Just so brutal. Ladder truck probably would’ve been suffice to reach him. 8 . Hours. Man that is no damn good. Sorry you got to witness that happen man.
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Jamie1975+ wrote: Sep 20th, 2021, 9:53 pm
motokelowna1 wrote: Jul 13th, 2021, 3:52 pm Response time is critical and one thing that needs a look at is the bridge. It needs a 3rd lane (Emergency) into Kelowna as we were on the bridge as the West Kelowna Emergency was trying to get through. Planning needs to be done now.
This is a very important take away. I unfortunately saw the whole incident happen and the response to recover the injured worker who fell and was stuck on the crane platform 100 ft up took over 8 hours to get him down, they didn't know what to do. We need Emergency Response Training for high-rise as we are going to continue building these in Kelowna.
I'm betting it had more to do with safety than not knowing what to do you can't just send guys up an unstable structure that just collapsed or you will be rescuing more people
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Boosted632 wrote: Oct 12th, 2021, 2:00 pm
I'm betting it had more to do with safety than not knowing what to do you can't just send guys up an unstable structure that just collapsed or you will be rescuing more people
Agree100%.

#1 rule is to not put rescuers at risk/in danger.
You can't train for an disaster such as a complete crane failure with unknown stability factors. Hence why the whole neighbourhood was evacuated for days until deemed safe.
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soupy wrote: Oct 12th, 2021, 3:49 pm
Boosted632 wrote: Oct 12th, 2021, 2:00 pm
I'm betting it had more to do with safety than not knowing what to do you can't just send guys up an unstable structure that just collapsed or you will be rescuing more people
Agree100%.

#1 rule is to not put rescuers at risk/in danger.
You can't train for an disaster such as a complete crane failure with unknown stability factors. Hence why the whole neighbourhood was evacuated for days until deemed safe.
Agreed.
Rule #1 in industrial 1st aid. Ensure no danger.
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Boosted632 wrote: Oct 12th, 2021, 2:00 pm
Jamie1975+ wrote: Sep 20th, 2021, 9:53 pm

This is a very important take away. I unfortunately saw the whole incident happen and the response to recover the injured worker who fell and was stuck on the crane platform 100 ft up took over 8 hours to get him down, they didn't know what to do. We need Emergency Response Training for high-rise as we are going to continue building these in Kelowna.
I'm betting it had more to do with safety than not knowing what to do you can't just send guys up an unstable structure that just collapsed or you will be rescuing more people
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alanjh595 wrote: Oct 12th, 2021, 6:07 pm
Agreed.
Rule #1 in industrial 1st aid. Ensure no danger.
Recently saw crazy video of a rescue in a pit via crane and basket.
3 rescuers went down in the basket to get 2 downed workers. One of the rescuers had on SCBA the other 2 did not.

One of the rescuers also went down during the process making it into 2 rescuers and 3 downed workers.
It was pretty dramatic video to watch. *couldnt find link to it*

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