All Things Trudeau, Chapter 2
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I'm with you on that but that's what we got and I haven't seen it get any better since I've been in Canada......and look at the US now. What a disaster!!Merry wrote: ↑Oct 7th, 2021, 11:52 amYes, I believe there are. But, for some strange reason, voters often vote out the ones who demonstrate integrity, while re-electing the badly behaved ones. And then complain about sleazy politicians.
Think about Jane Philpott, and I think you’ll see what I mean. And our political landscape is littered with good people who were similarly discarded.
It really is true that people get the Government they deserve.
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I think part of the problem is that far too many people allow themselves to be persuaded by what they read in the media (including social media) without bothering to fact check what they read. And of those that do try to fact check, too many don’t make the effort to ensure they are using reliable, unbiased sources.foenix wrote: ↑Oct 7th, 2021, 11:59 amI'm with you on that but that's what we got and I haven't seen it get any better since I've been in Canada......and look at the US now. What a disaster!!Merry wrote: ↑Oct 7th, 2021, 11:52 am
Yes, I believe there are. But, for some strange reason, voters often vote out the ones who demonstrate integrity, while re-electing the badly behaved ones. And then complain about sleazy politicians.
Think about Jane Philpott, and I think you’ll see what I mean. And our political landscape is littered with good people who were similarly discarded.
It really is true that people get the Government they deserve.
How do we get people to take the time to make sure they’re making decisions based on sound information? I think it probably starts in the schools, colleges and universities, by encouraging students to do their own research and invite debate, instead of forcing them to always adhere to the mainstream narrative. Particularly on controversial issues.
But that’s a whole new thread.
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https://www.castanet.net/edition/news-s ... htm#347950The chief of Tk'emlups te Secwepemc wants more than just an apology from the Prime Minister — Rosanne Casimir wants Justin Trudeau to come to Kamloops prepared to discuss funding band projects, including an Indigenous healing centre.
Trudeau said Wednesday that he would visit Kamloops in the coming weeks. He faced heavy criticism after turning down the Tk'emlups band's invites to attend ceremonies on Sept. 30, Canada's first National Day for Truth and Reconciliation, opting instead to fly to Tofino for a family vacation.
In a statement Thursday, Tk'emlups te Secwepemc said the lack of a response to two letters was "an added insult," but have chosen a date offered by Trudeau’s office and look forward to welcoming him in the community later this month.
However, the band said it isn’t interested in an apology or a media event to compensate for his lack of participation on the National Day for Truth and Reconciliation.
“We are not interested in apologies that don’t lead to institutional and widespread change,” the band wrote, adding it wants a commitment to funding this and other key projects from the Canadian government.
“We require funding for a Tk'emlúps healing centre to support Survivors and intergenerational Survivors.”
The statement continued, saying Trudeau's presence would have shown the world his personal commitment to "enacting real change and rectifying the historical wrongs" of the residential school system, and to personally support grieving Indian Residential School survivors.
“Tk'emlúps te Secwépemc asks that the Prime Minister come prepared to discuss how the Canadian government can assist us in funding these key projects as a gesture towards meaningful recognition and reconciliation for Indian Residential School Survivors,” the press release said, adding that they will continue to call upon the Prime Minister to to witness and recognize Tk'emlúps collective history and be part of the solution.
In the visit to T’kemlups, the band said Trudeau will meet with survivors and listen to them speak their truths about Indian Residential Schools.
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A fake sorry. That's normal. He was just rubbing your nose into his sowwey.The Green Barbarian wrote: ↑Oct 7th, 2021, 8:23 amAnd yet he apologized.nucksRnum1 wrote: ↑Oct 7th, 2021, 12:21 am
He had nothing to apologize for. He went on a vacay. Nothing to see here.
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After the "mistake" of traveling on "that day", the band is in a better position than Trudeau is to call the shots.The Green Barbarian wrote: ↑Oct 7th, 2021, 1:10 pmhttps://www.castanet.net/edition/news-s ... htm#347950The chief of Tk'emlups te Secwepemc wants more than just an apology from the Prime Minister — Rosanne Casimir wants Justin Trudeau to come to Kamloops prepared to discuss funding band projects, including an Indigenous healing centre.
Trudeau said Wednesday that he would visit Kamloops in the coming weeks. He faced heavy criticism after turning down the Tk'emlups band's invites to attend ceremonies on Sept. 30, Canada's first National Day for Truth and Reconciliation, opting instead to fly to Tofino for a family vacation.
In a statement Thursday, Tk'emlups te Secwepemc said the lack of a response to two letters was "an added insult," but have chosen a date offered by Trudeau’s office and look forward to welcoming him in the community later this month.
However, the band said it isn’t interested in an apology or a media event to compensate for his lack of participation on the National Day for Truth and Reconciliation.
“We are not interested in apologies that don’t lead to institutional and widespread change,” the band wrote, adding it wants a commitment to funding this and other key projects from the Canadian government.
“We require funding for a Tk'emlúps healing centre to support Survivors and intergenerational Survivors.”
The statement continued, saying Trudeau's presence would have shown the world his personal commitment to "enacting real change and rectifying the historical wrongs" of the residential school system, and to personally support grieving Indian Residential School survivors.
“Tk'emlúps te Secwépemc asks that the Prime Minister come prepared to discuss how the Canadian government can assist us in funding these key projects as a gesture towards meaningful recognition and reconciliation for Indian Residential School Survivors,” the press release said, adding that they will continue to call upon the Prime Minister to to witness and recognize Tk'emlúps collective history and be part of the solution.
In the visit to T’kemlups, the band said Trudeau will meet with survivors and listen to them speak their truths about Indian Residential Schools.
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What?nucksRnum1 wrote: ↑Oct 7th, 2021, 1:43 pm
A fake sorry. That's normal. He was just rubbing your nose into his sowwey.
Emperor Carney now has the official endorsement of Donald Trump, twice. Let that sink in.
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How so? Trudeau like his dad doesn't give a hoot about the court of public opinion. Or the kangaroo court sessions. So obviously there isn't much that others can do so they "call the shots". The people that don't matter just had an election and they couldn't get rid of Trudeau. Which is great for me.rustled wrote: ↑Oct 7th, 2021, 1:55 pmAfter the "mistake" of traveling on "that day", the band is in a better position than Trudeau is to call the shots.The Green Barbarian wrote: ↑Oct 7th, 2021, 1:10 pm
https://www.castanet.net/edition/news-s ... htm#347950
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But Pierre was smart, while Justin is a giant dumb-dumb.nucksRnum1 wrote: ↑Oct 7th, 2021, 2:33 pm
How so? Trudeau like his dad doesn't give a hoot about the court of public opinion.
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rustled wrote: ↑Oct 7th, 2021, 1:55 pmAfter the "mistake" of traveling on "that day", the band is in a better position than Trudeau is to call the shots.The Green Barbarian wrote: ↑Oct 7th, 2021, 1:10 pm
https://www.castanet.net/edition/news-s ... htm#347950
Naturally the issue is being used to obtain another financial windfall for the band, and no doubt set a precedent to allow others to come to the trough as well.The chief of Tk'emlups te Secwepemc wants more than just an apology from the Prime Minister — Rosanne Casimir wants Justin Trudeau to come to Kamloops prepared to discuss funding band projects, including an Indigenous healing centre.
In the end it always comes down to the same thing, extorting more money from the feds, which at the end of the day is us. As if we aren't funding enough stuff already.

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Final tally .. 160 seats.
Gained 3 seats.
Liberals not hated by most Canadians after all.
https://www.castanet.net/news/Canada/34 ...
Gained 3 seats.
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https://www.castanet.net/news/Canada/34 ...
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True that. And his father wouldn't have put himself in the position where someone else would be better seated to call the shots. Love him or loathe him or anywhere in between, his father understood the responsibilities of leadership and had both the brains and the backbone to lead. Whereas Justin Trudeau is one of the people his father was referring to here:The Green Barbarian wrote: ↑Oct 7th, 2021, 2:41 pmBut Pierre was smart, while Justin is a giant dumb-dumb.nucksRnum1 wrote: ↑Oct 7th, 2021, 2:33 pm
How so? Trudeau like his dad doesn't give a hoot about the court of public opinion.
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No doubt Justin's response to the criticism from the natives was that infamous quote from Marie Antoinette,
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And cheap too, only cost Canadian taxpayers $200 million per seat.
Just Canadians with brains.Liberals not hated by most Canadians after all.
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The Green Barbarian wrote: ↑Oct 7th, 2021, 2:41 pmBut Pierre was smart, while Justin is a giant dumb-dumb.nucksRnum1 wrote: ↑Oct 7th, 2021, 2:33 pm
How so? Trudeau like his dad doesn't give a hoot about the court of public opinion.
Smart??? Really?
I would say “crafty”.
Trudeau the First knew how to play one side against the other to rise up in the middle and thereby got his way with us and other politicians.
On the Trudeau the Second, he plays like a fool with almost everyone but his acolytes despising him as a boneless fish.
Sufficiently advanced incompetence is indistinguishable from malice. There’s a certain point at which ignorance becomes malice, at which there is simply no way to become THAT ignorant except deliberately and maliciously.
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Exactly, Pierre was an arrogant SOB, but he was a highly intelligent arrogant SOB.. Justin is dumber than a sack of hammers.The Green Barbarian wrote: ↑Oct 7th, 2021, 2:41 pmBut Pierre was smart, while Justin is a giant dumb-dumb.nucksRnum1 wrote: ↑Oct 7th, 2021, 2:33 pm
How so? Trudeau like his dad doesn't give a hoot about the court of public opinion.
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