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Re: Joe Rogan is a hypocrite

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Jonrox wrote: Oct 13th, 2021, 12:23 pm
Beerhunter341 wrote: Oct 13th, 2021, 12:17 pm

That is one possibility. The other possibility is that his contract was signed prior to the vaccine passport requirement. He may not have had a choice to perform. He may have been obligated to.
He has bragged about having eff-you money. If that's true (and the size of his Spotify contract would suggest it is), then he should have had no issue standing up for what he believes in if it really mattered to him.

It was his own words that said protecting freedom had to be done "at all costs". Apparently he didn't mean "at all costs" or believed that this doesn't apply to him since there was a very specific cost he wasn't willing to pay.
I don't know anything about him other than he is a hugely successful vlogger.
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Re: Joe Rogan is a hypocrite

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Beerhunter341 wrote: Oct 13th, 2021, 1:35 pm
Jonrox wrote: Oct 13th, 2021, 12:23 pm
He has bragged about having eff-you money. If that's true (and the size of his Spotify contract would suggest it is), then he should have had no issue standing up for what he believes in if it really mattered to him.

It was his own words that said protecting freedom had to be done "at all costs". Apparently he didn't mean "at all costs" or believed that this doesn't apply to him since there was a very specific cost he wasn't willing to pay.
I don't know anything about him other than he is a hugely successful vlogger.
He's a wildly successful podcaster with a cult-like following. What's dangerous is that his followers think he's a god who's completely infallible, in spite of him admitting he's a terrible source of information.
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Re: Care aides forced onto leave

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AtlantisKelowna wrote: Oct 13th, 2021, 1:32 pm
LovemyBolt wrote: Oct 13th, 2021, 1:11 pm

No. The anti-social 10%-ish or so outcasts have made their own bed. The vast majority are trying to get us over all this but being impeded in that effort by that small number of outcasts that are still overrunning the hospitals.
Exhibit A
Division (in this context) is not 80 to 90 % of people divided against 10% or so of people. Division is in the states where it's like 50/50.
Our 10% are just those ridiculous fringe holdouts.
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Re: Care aides forced onto leave

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LovemyBolt wrote: Oct 13th, 2021, 1:39 pm
AtlantisKelowna wrote: Oct 13th, 2021, 1:32 pm

Exhibit A
Division (in this context) is not 80 to 90 % of people divided against 10% or so of people. Division is in the states where it's like 50/50.
Our 10% are just those ridiculous fringe holdouts.
You are delusional if you feel the split is based on vaccination numbers. Any acceptance of division in this country is disgusting. People much like yourself that accept it based on an oppositional view are the problem with society.
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Since I was talking about my experiences I'm not sure why you would quote me.
Truths can be backed up by facts - do you have any?
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AtlantisKelowna wrote: Oct 13th, 2021, 1:50 pm You are delusional if you feel the split is based on vaccination numbers. Any acceptance of division in this country is disgusting. People much like yourself that accept it based on an oppositional view are the problem with society.
Well that sums it up for why a split.
Truths can be backed up by facts - do you have any?
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Re: Coronavirus/Variants/Vaccine/Masks

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Health care workers not yet vaccinated is only about 4%. So if that is an indication of the general population, it's not really a "division", it's a very small minority (and some may yet get vaccinated and just wanted to see if the requirement was for real). It is a way of registering their objection, and yet they can still comply eventually and not actually give up their jobs. I would also bet that some were planning to quit anyway, as has been reported. At any rate, it will all work out for the best.
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Re: Care aides forced onto leave

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AtlantisKelowna wrote: Oct 13th, 2021, 1:50 pm You are delusional if you feel the split is based on vaccination numbers. Any acceptance of division in this country is disgusting. People much like yourself that accept it based on an oppositional view are the problem with society.
The tremendous division along political lines has been accepted by a lot of people for several years. It's just now that a highly vocal, very small minority of anit-vaxxers and Covid-deniers doesn't like being outnumbered 10:1. They were a lot more comfortable with a 50/50 split along left vs right lines and are struggling to come to terms with being so vastly outnumbered now. They really don't like being a minority and it's driving them crazy.
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Re: Coronavirus/Variants/Vaccine/Masks

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On a different note, it's been interesting to see healthcare workers in Quebec being so vocal about being "forced" to choose between their job and remaining true to their "beliefs".

I'm wondering where these folks were when Quebec forced people to choose between their religion and their jobs.

For many of them they've been lucky enough to live very privileged lives where they've never had to make a tough decision like this. It's been quite interesting to see their reactions.
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Re: Joe Rogan is a hypocrite

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Jonrox wrote: Oct 13th, 2021, 1:38 pm
Beerhunter341 wrote: Oct 13th, 2021, 1:35 pm

I don't know anything about him other than he is a hugely successful vlogger.
He's a wildly successful podcaster with a cult-like following. What's dangerous is that his followers think he's a god who's completely infallible, in spite of him admitting he's a terrible source of information.
^^ kind of like Howard Stern and any celebrity/influencer that has a platform and fans..our world is basically run on "likes" or dislikes...it's a Black Mirror kind of thing now..
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Re: Joe Rogan is a hypocrite

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W105 wrote: Oct 13th, 2021, 2:35 pm
Jonrox wrote: Oct 13th, 2021, 1:38 pm
He's a wildly successful podcaster with a cult-like following. What's dangerous is that his followers think he's a god who's completely infallible, in spite of him admitting he's a terrible source of information.
^^ kind of like Howard Stern and any celebrity/influencer that has a platform and fans..our world is basically run on "likes" or dislikes...it's a Black Mirror kind of thing now..
Howard Stern is bordering on Howard Hughes-type behaviour now. He pretty much refuses to leave the house and doesn't like it when Beth wants to go out - he's absolutely terrified of Covid. I think it's starting to hurt the show... he's losing touch with his fans at this point (although it's been a long time since he's been remotely in touch with what regular folks' lives are like). It's kind of sad that his best radio of the past couple of years was this summer when he was on break and all they played was past celebrity interviews.

In terms of Black Mirror... it's been crazy to see some of the tech from episodes a few years ago starting to actually be released or be close to being released. I feel like the team at Boston Dynamics especially needs to watch a few episodes. And don't get me started on the robot bees.

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Re: Coronavirus/Variants/Vaccine/Masks

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Extra! More fake news the government is spreading!

Alberta news posted headlines that a 14 year male old died of Covid

The sister of this poor soul. Went on Facebook and said this was false headlines. The poor little guy had stage 4 brain cancer since January. And 2 days before his death. They decide to do a Covid test, which was positive

This is the exact false numbers that have been reported over and over. People with heart attacks. Gunshot wounds. Liver disease. You name it. Prior to Covid, they did not mark this down as a flu death. Now everything is marked as Covid deaths. No matter what. CDC openly changed these rules

That is why Covid is a farce. It’s the flu. And if you think otherwise. Your being dupped

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Re: Care aides forced onto leave

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Fancy wrote: Oct 13th, 2021, 1:57 pm
Since I was talking about my experiences I'm not sure why you would quote me.
I quoted Atlantis, you are the quote within the quote (like I am above) :)
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Re: Joe Rogan is a hypocrite

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Jonrox wrote: Oct 13th, 2021, 11:39 am
Kel0wna wrote: Oct 13th, 2021, 11:32 am So how exactly does him holding a show equate to him supporting the government mandate? Again, MSG has no choice but to follow the states mandate. Do people need to harm businesses that are merely following the law to be against a government mandate?

Your argument would only make sense if there wasn't a state mandate and MSG was doing this by choice, not necessity. The real hypocrisy is that performers are exempt, and that's not up to Joe Rogan.
He says vaccine mandates are an attack on freedom. He then CHOOSES to hold a show that requires vaccine passports. He wasn't forced to do a show at MSG... he CHOSE to do a show that required vaccine passports. He did it because he wanted a pay day and doesn't actually believe the BS he wants others to follow.

He completely validated the government and venue implementing these rules by CHOOSING to do a show there. There are plenty of venues across the country he can perform at where passports aren't required, but he chose the one that does. He's a giant hypocrite.

Standard ignorant comment. He booked the venue a year or more ago. The stadium has it's own mandates. Was that Joe's decision? I laugh at such blatant incorrect statements. I hope you all take the boosters. They save us energy and time in traffic.
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Re: Coronavirus/Variants/Vaccine/Masks

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samsquench07 wrote: Oct 13th, 2021, 2:42 pm Extra! More fake news the government is spreading!

Alberta news posted headlines that a 14 year male old died of Covid

The sister of this poor soul. Went on Facebook and said this was false headlines. The poor little guy had stage 4 brain cancer since January. And 2 days before his death. They decide to do a Covid test, which was positive

This is the exact false numbers that have been reported over and over. People with heart attacks. Gunshot wounds. Liver disease. You name it. Prior to Covid, they did not mark this down as a flu death. Now everything is marked as Covid deaths. No matter what. CDC openly changed these rule
That is why Covid is a farce. It’s the flu. And if you think otherwise. Your being dupped
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Here's what was actually reported about the 14 year old's death.
" Alberta reported it’s youngest COVID-related death to date. Among the 33 new deaths reported over the weekend was a 14-year old who had “complex, pre-existing medical conditions.”

Dr. Deena Hinshaw says the pre-existing conditions played a significant role in the teen’s death
As for the other 32 reported deaths, they ranged from a person in their 30s, up to a pair of Albertans in their 90s."


An 18 year old girl also died in Sept.
They have to report the Covid cases as cases. They report the deaths, and sometimes they report other pre-existing conditions. You don't know what role covid played in the death.

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