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fluffy wrote: Oct 19th, 2021, 6:40 pm
Rejigger wrote: Oct 19th, 2021, 5:52 pmI'm not sure Albertans are anymore embarrassed by Kenney than British Columbians are by Horgan.
Let me clear that up for you:

https://angusreid.org/premier-approval-june2021/

Horgan at 63%, second highest in the country, Kenney at 31%, bottom of the barrel.
Things like this only reinforce how out of touch with reality conservatives are. Horgan has been great in BC.
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fluffy wrote: Oct 19th, 2021, 6:40 pm
Rejigger wrote: Oct 19th, 2021, 5:52 pmI'm not sure Albertans are anymore embarrassed by Kenney than British Columbians are by Horgan.
Let me clear that up for you:

https://angusreid.org/premier-approval-june2021/

Horgan at 63%, second highest in the country, Kenney at 31%, bottom of the barrel.
Approval ratings don't equate to 'embarrassment'. They equate to anger, at best, but not embarrassment.
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nucksRnum1 wrote: Oct 19th, 2021, 6:46 pm
fluffy wrote: Oct 19th, 2021, 6:40 pm

Let me clear that up for you:

https://angusreid.org/premier-approval-june2021/

Horgan at 63%, second highest in the country, Kenney at 31%, bottom of the barrel.
Things like this only reinforce how out of touch with reality conservatives are. Horgan has been great in BC.
If you think all Albertans are conservative, you missed the news a few posts back about the new mayors in Edmonton and Calgary.
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The Green Barbarian wrote: Oct 19th, 2021, 6:03 pm
Rejigger wrote: Oct 19th, 2021, 5:41 pm
Riiiiiight. I think he meant to write he's not a "practicing" gay. Next he'll be saying that his favourite colour - purple - which he wears every day, has no particular meaning.
From what I've heard of Naheed, I don't believe that he would lie about something like this. If he says he isn't gay then his word should be respected. And for the record, it doesn't matter to me either way what his sexual preference is.
From what you've heard of Nenshi? His word should be respected? Yes, let's respect and believe all politicians. They never lie.

And for the record, my post was in response to the below inference that Alberta has been stuck in the past until yesterday ('vote day'), when someone flipped a switch and it all suddenly changed overnight.
bob vernon wrote: Oct 18th, 2021, 8:46 pm Not your father's tall-in-the-saddle Alberta anymore. Municipal election day in Alberta. New Edmonton mayor: Amarjeet Sohi. New Calgary mayor Jyoti Gondek. By the way, Amarjeet Sohi is a former federal LIBERAL cabinet minister.
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I will say one thing for Kenny's buddy Moe in Saskachewan - He sure is good at dancing around a point-blank question. Do you take personal responsibility for the covid crisis in your province? Dodge-weave-feign-salsa-foxtrot-hip hop-breakdance-i regret-shuddah-cuddah-wudda-federal government-freedoms- BLAH BLAH BLAH - hollow words. I guess that was the way he got out of responsibility for what he has done in the past before?

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And Kennys buddy in Ontario is pulling his foot out of his mouth as well....this is why I am glad we didn't get a Conservative government.

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Rejigger wrote: Oct 19th, 2021, 5:40 pm
Septuagenarian wrote: Oct 19th, 2021, 7:49 am Well in both Edmonton and Calgreedy... [icon_lol2.gif]
Don't be hatin' ...just 'cuz you live in Deadmonton.
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Rejigger wrote: Oct 19th, 2021, 5:52 pm
Pappywinkle wrote: Oct 19th, 2021, 4:10 pm Another hilarious headline from the Beaverton that totally nails it. Kenney definitely is embarrassing Alberta again with this ridiculous referendum nonsense.
I'm not sure Albertans are anymore embarrassed by Kenney than British Columbians are by Horgan. Or Canadians are by Trudeau. Hmm, on second thought, maybe we all have something to be embarrassed about when it comes to our so-called leaders.

Regardless, equalization payments were introduced in 1957. It's not as if they can't be scrapped in the same way they were introduced. Trudeau et al are doing what they can to ensure there's no money to transfer out of Alberta anyway, yes?

Maybe British Columbians should be embarrassed that they aren't working harder to earn more money for other parts of Canada to live off of? Quebecers can't be expected to support their smoking and drinking habits on their own, fcs.
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Actually, equalization was part of confederation in 1867. 1957 marked the change to a transparent system of doing so.

Every country practices equalization, we are just more transparent and less corrupt about it.

In the US it takes the form of "pork barreling". New York, Connecticut et al pay a lot more into federal coffers that they get back, and states like Kentucky, Mississippi et al receive a big whack more in federal $$$ than they pay in.

The UK has similar situations, and even has a region that plays Bloc like "independence" games, Scotland. https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-sc ... s-56580359

"Scotland public funding '30% higher' than England"

Virtually every country has such regional disparities in central government funding. In the end, why would countries exist, and all of us not fall back into the medieval "city state" scenario if it were not for mutual benefit of such arrangements?

And that's what gets not thought out in the shallow excuses for thinking that opportunist politicians all over the world use in such discussions (and in the end it it is all self serving nonsense).

If BC decided to secede how would BC maintain revenues to pay for federal services? The RCMP is waaay cheaper than a BC Provincial Police Force would be (which is why Alberta abandoned their experiment with an APP years ago). BC would need its own Navy, have to buy fighter jets etc. An obvious target for that funding? Import/export fees on goods that come through BC ports and end up or leave places like Alberta. Oh, high risk goods to export like oil? A big fat surcharge! And so on.

Such parochial nonsense already exists in Canada in the form of inter provincial trade barriers. It is ridiculous that a person can not buy beer in Quebec and bring it home to New Brunswick. Etc. etc. etc.

That sort of parochial nonsense is what makes confederation so valuable, as it eliminates a ton of it (even though some of it still exists). The very fact that the main ports, like Vancouver, Surrey, and Prince Rupert are FEDERAL ports avoids the worst parochial abuses. So how much is that worth to AlSask??? Etc. etc.

Messing about like Kenney is with the very notion of equalization is just a desperate dumb dumb political stunt.
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Waste of time and money
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We have a 650 page report that contradicts the propaganda we spewed against environmentalists.

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I was going to say the Allan Inquisition was the biggest waste of money this year in Alberta.

But then I remembered Kenney got suckered out of $1.3 billion by TC Energy for a vapourware pipeline to nowhere.

Kenney is Canada's worst and dumbest Premier. He makes the slow-witted drunk driver next door in Saskatchewan look smart.

What an embarrassment.


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crookedmember wrote: Oct 23rd, 2021, 8:23 am
Kenney is Canada's worst and dumbest Premier.
And yet he's still miles ahead of the person he replaced, Nutley. I agree Kenney should be replaced, but it shouldn't be by the even worse NDP.
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UCP threatened on 2 flanks as NDP leads and support surges for Wildrose Independence Party, poll suggests

"A new poll suggests Alberta's governing United Conservative Party is running 11 points behind the NDP while a new threat is emerging on the right as support for the Wildrose Independence Party surges to 20 per cent."

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/ ... -1.6059130

While an election may be as much as a year and a half away, the surge in support for the Wildrose Independence Party could be setting the stage for a replay, where the splitting of the Conservative vote opened the door for a takeover by Rachel Notely and the NDP, who are at this point in time polling well ahead of all other parties.

A big question facing the UCP caucus right now is whether or not Jason Kenney can repair his reputation well enough to be a contender for the Premier's chair, or failing that, can a replacement be found soon enough to gain a sufficient measure of support in the time remaining in this term.
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One of the most interesting things about Jason Kenney and an indication of how thoroughly he's failed is at the moment in Alberta he's 30 points less popular than equalization.

Thankfully next election a smart, educated, born and bred in Alberta woman will replace the Ottawa-boy, lifetime politician Kenney who is so dumb he flunked out of bible school.

The election can't come soon enough for a province that's been run into the ground by a dunce and his cabinet of used car salesmen.

Elect stupid people. Get stupid results.
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