Worrisome observation considering covid

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Zedi wrote: Oct 7th, 2021, 11:20 am Oh no....Its as bad as a nasty influenza outbreak....
Haven't ever had that happen anywhere I've worked. Can't say that about covid though.
Truths can be backed up by facts - do you have any?
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Mind blown observation of the day

High vax countries. Equal high Covid cases

Low vax countries like Vietnam. South Africa. Ethiopia. Low Covid cases.

Go figure.
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samsquench07 wrote: Oct 21st, 2021, 6:03 am Mind blown observation of the day

High vax countries. Equal high Covid cases

Low vax countries like Vietnam. South Africa. Ethiopia. Low Covid cases.

Go figure.
Are you suggesting we follow the path of communist Vietnam to achieve low numbers of Covid cases?
Ho Chi Minh City and the wider south in Vietnam finished its 24-hour-a-day Covid-19 lockdown of three months last week, allowing people to venture out to buy food rather than wait for soldiers to coordinate deliveries to their homes. Soldiers had manned barricades between precincts as part of social distancing orders known as Directive 16.

Bars remain shut, but gyms are open and some domestic flight paths are resuming. Workers locked up in dorms are flooding back to their home provinces in droves, clogging roads that were empty only days ago, creating further worries of virus spread.
Vietnam will lift the lockdown in its largest city on Friday, ending nearly three months of restrictions on movement to curb a coronavirus surge.

People in Ho Chi Minh City, a metropolis of 10 million, will be able to leave their homes, restaurants can serve take-away meals and other essential businesses can open, the city said on its website on Thursday.
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samsquench07 wrote: Oct 21st, 2021, 6:03 am Mind blown observation of the day
High vax countries. Equal high Covid cases
Low vax countries like Vietnam. South Africa. Ethiopia. Low Covid cases.
Go figure.
I think you may be on to something there. Let's lock everyone down instead of having to vaccinate everyone.
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Oh? They are locking down Uganda. Ethiopia? Kenya? Nigeria? Algeria ? Indonesia? Pakistan? Bangladesh?
Maybe some of these are lock downs. Like Vietnam. But. Not all. Get a grip

Probably due to many countries never had a vax program so their natural immunity fights off disease like it should

Not like us brain dead robots
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samsquench07 wrote: Oct 21st, 2021, 8:24 pm Oh? They are locking down Uganda. Ethiopia? Kenya? Nigeria? Algeria ? Indonesia? Pakistan? Bangladesh?
Maybe some of these are lock downs. Like Vietnam. But. Not all. Get a grip

Probably due to many countries never had a vax program so their natural immunity fights off disease like it should

Not like us brain dead robots
Seriously? Did you do even a single second of research? This is just getting silly at this point. They’re all trying to ramp up vaccination efforts and have all had various forms of lockdowns… most of which were much more severe than anything we experienced.

Uganda…
On 18 June, in response to the coronavirus pandemic, the government announced a 42-day national lockdown, during which schools and shopping malls were closed and public and private transportation was prohibited, except in limited circumstances.
And Kenya has had a curfew in place since March 2020 that was just lifted yesterday…
Kenya lifted a nationwide curfew on Wednesday that has been in place since March 2020 to curb the spread of the coronavirus, President Uhuru Kenyatta announced.
And Nigeria just made vaccinations mandatory for access to employees and anyone wanting to access government offices…
The Kaduna State Government has ordered all civil servants in the state to get vaccinated against the deadly coronavirus disease, saying beginning from October 31, evidence of vaccination will be a requirement to gain access to their offices.

According to the statement from Kaduna, apart from civil servants, visitors to government offices will need to present their vaccination cards or evidence of registration with the state Ministry of Health for the purpose of vaccination, with their protective masks worn before they would be allowed into the government offices.
And Pakistan…
An increasing vaccination rate and strict health measures, including a ban on businesses and lockdowns in selected areas, have helped Pakistan bring down the daily number of COVID-19 cases by more than 50 percent in September.

During the first 11 days of September, daily cases hovered well above 3,000, prompting the government to impose strict measures which included school closure, a ban on gatherings and dining at restaurants, closure of cinemas and sports centers, besides restrictions on business activities.

Starting from Friday, the NCOC imposed a ban on unvaccinated people on boarding domestic and international flights and entering educational institutions, shopping malls, wedding halls, hotels and guesthouses.
And Algeria just lifted a nationwide lockdown a few days ago…
Consequently, "the government has decided on Monday to fully lift lockdown measure over the rest of 23 provinces as of Oct. 20 for 21 days," reads a statement of the Prime Minister Office.

It noted that family gatherings, such as weddings and sit-ins in the streets and public places, are still banned under the pandemic sanitary measures.
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alanjh595 wrote: Oct 7th, 2021, 10:02 am
Because the "Flu" season hasn't started yet. The flu vaccine should be out by mid next week.
What about the 2020 Flu season? Is it going to be every other year now?
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AtlantisKelowna wrote: Oct 22nd, 2021, 1:40 pm
alanjh595 wrote: Oct 7th, 2021, 10:02 am
Because the "Flu" season hasn't started yet. The flu vaccine should be out by mid next week.
What about the 2020 Flu season? Is it going to be every other year now?
Why ask me?

I just posted a fact.
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alanjh595 wrote: Oct 22nd, 2021, 2:51 pm
AtlantisKelowna wrote: Oct 22nd, 2021, 1:40 pm

What about the 2020 Flu season? Is it going to be every other year now?
Why ask me?

I just posted a fact.
Ok well, how about the fact that there was no flu season last year. You know that as well as I do but admitting it might go against the narrative.
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foenix wrote: Oct 7th, 2021, 10:09 am
Boosted632 wrote: Oct 7th, 2021, 12:44 am

Yup absolutely right I know a pile of people now that have had it and heard the exact same thing from all of them
Famous last words........

ICU staff battle patients' regret, denial and mistrust during Quebec's 4th wave
Since the fourth wave of COVID-19 began at the end of August, the ICU is seeing an increase in younger patients in their 20s, 30s and 40s. Most are also unvaccinated.

Some of the patients tell staff, "'I didn't think it would happen to me, I didn't think it would get this bad,'" said Bolduc-Dionne. "They have regrets because they notice now it's too late and they are here."
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal ... -1.6199031

‘As they’re being intubated, they still don’t believe it.’ The COVID denial won’t die
Another man — not the only one — berated the hospital’s emergency room staff for urging him to be admitted. He walked out, albeit tethered to oxygen, insisting angrily that COVID isn’t real.

“And then we found out that he was at (another hospital) within 12 hours on a ventilator,” the nurse says.

“I could tell you that story about every day — and as they’re being intubated they still don’t believe it.

This is the tragedy tucked inside COVID’s calamity. As if our heroes in health care need more on their shoulders, they must deal with hostility toward them and toward the hard-won medicine that could’ve saved even the quarrelsome.

“If that story doesn’t make you change your mind, I just don’t really care to talk with you at all,” my nurse friend says, matter-of-factly. “If that doesn’t bother you, I don’t know what will. … It’s mind-blowing to all of us. We just can’t fathom it.”
https://www.lowellsun.com/2021/08/27/as ... -wont-die/
The problem with all of this is the fact that there are alternate treatments. When you even have the sniffles and are worried you may have a virus (in particular a respiratory virus) there is nothing but safety behind something like Ivermectin, yet it is squashed and hidden by our government's. It doesn't hurt to roll it out and try, just ask India *bleep*.
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gad710 wrote: Oct 22nd, 2021, 5:15 pm
The problem with all of this is the fact that there are alternate treatments. When you even have the sniffles and are worried you may have a virus (in particular a respiratory virus) there is nothing but safety behind something like Ivermectin, yet it is squashed and hidden by our government's. It doesn't hurt to roll it out and try, just ask India *bleep*.
The problem is that there are practically no alternative treatments, and ivermectin is not one of them.
the problem is it is fine if the person has a mild case anyway, which many do, so it will seem as if IM saved their life.
But what happens if they get a serious case of covid, because there is no evidence IM works for that.
There's a good reason why the manufacturer of IM isn't pushing it for covid, because it's not proven to work. But if someone wants' to try it, there's nothing stopping them, it's russian roulette if they get a serious case of covid tho.
The only hopeful possible treatments are a covid pill that is being developed, not sure how close it is to being proven or more widely used. In the meantime, people should get the vaccine, and then if they want to play around with IM, at least they won't die trying.
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Jonrox wrote: Oct 21st, 2021, 8:45 pm
samsquench07 wrote: Oct 21st, 2021, 8:24 pm Oh? They are locking down Uganda. Ethiopia? Kenya? Nigeria? Algeria ? Indonesia? Pakistan? Bangladesh?
Maybe some of these are lock downs. Like Vietnam. But. Not all. Get a grip

Probably due to many countries never had a vax program so their natural immunity fights off disease like it should

Not like us brain dead robots
Seriously? Did you do even a single second of research? This is just getting silly at this point. They’re all trying to ramp up vaccination efforts and have all had various forms of lockdowns… most of which were much more severe than anything we experienced.

Uganda…
On 18 June, in response to the coronavirus pandemic, the government announced a 42-day national lockdown, during which schools and shopping malls were closed and public and private transportation was prohibited, except in limited circumstances.
And Kenya has had a curfew in place since March 2020 that was just lifted yesterday…
Kenya lifted a nationwide curfew on Wednesday that has been in place since March 2020 to curb the spread of the coronavirus, President Uhuru Kenyatta announced.
And Nigeria just made vaccinations mandatory for access to employees and anyone wanting to access government offices…
The Kaduna State Government has ordered all civil servants in the state to get vaccinated against the deadly coronavirus disease, saying beginning from October 31, evidence of vaccination will be a requirement to gain access to their offices.

According to the statement from Kaduna, apart from civil servants, visitors to government offices will need to present their vaccination cards or evidence of registration with the state Ministry of Health for the purpose of vaccination, with their protective masks worn before they would be allowed into the government offices.
And Pakistan…
An increasing vaccination rate and strict health measures, including a ban on businesses and lockdowns in selected areas, have helped Pakistan bring down the daily number of COVID-19 cases by more than 50 percent in September.

During the first 11 days of September, daily cases hovered well above 3,000, prompting the government to impose strict measures which included school closure, a ban on gatherings and dining at restaurants, closure of cinemas and sports centers, besides restrictions on business activities.

Starting from Friday, the NCOC imposed a ban on unvaccinated people on boarding domestic and international flights and entering educational institutions, shopping malls, wedding halls, hotels and guesthouses.
And Algeria just lifted a nationwide lockdown a few days ago…
Consequently, "the government has decided on Monday to fully lift lockdown measure over the rest of 23 provinces as of Oct. 20 for 21 days," reads a statement of the Prime Minister Office.

It noted that family gatherings, such as weddings and sit-ins in the streets and public places, are still banned under the pandemic sanitary measures.
Sounds like Canada. Expect the jabbed the living pee out of everybody
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samsquench07 wrote: Oct 21st, 2021, 6:03 am Mind blown observation of the day

High vax countries. Equal high Covid cases

Low vax countries like Vietnam. South Africa. Ethiopia. Low Covid cases.

Go figure.
Every flu case was covid last and every covid case be flu this year cause most of peo vaccinated
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AtlantisKelowna wrote: Oct 22nd, 2021, 4:42 pm
alanjh595 wrote: Oct 22nd, 2021, 2:51 pm

Why ask me?

I just posted a fact.
Ok well, how about the fact that there was no flu season last year. You know that as well as I do but admitting it might go against the narrative.
How about last year. At this time last year we were in the middle of a lock down. Wash your hands, social distance, wear a mask, and a flu vaccine. Done. What happened? No flu. Apparently our preventative steps worked for the flu. Now we have another tool in our arsenal against covid and that is the vaccine. Any reason to doubt that a similar result might occur if we were all vaccinated?
Common sense is so uncommon
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Kodidad wrote: Oct 23rd, 2021, 10:28 am
AtlantisKelowna wrote: Oct 22nd, 2021, 4:42 pm

Ok well, how about the fact that there was no flu season last year. You know that as well as I do but admitting it might go against the narrative.
How about last year. At this time last year we were in the middle of a lock down. Wash your hands, social distance, wear a mask, and a flu vaccine. Done. What happened? No flu. Apparently our preventative steps worked for the flu. Now we have another tool in our arsenal against covid and that is the vaccine. Any reason to doubt that a similar result might occur if we were all vaccinated?
^^ you really think the vaccine is the cure for covid ?? if it was then every vaccinated person would never get covid again, but they still are..

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