Restaurants have complained about workers and cerb - while relying on government to pay workers that stayed

[Catri]

Small business is an important part of our economy, but I also think perhaps we have too many restaurants. They are notoriously hard to make a success out of and I wonder how many of the ones being propped up by government dollars would not have thrived under normal circumstances anyway. I suspect there are some. Maybe a legacy of this pandemic is that there will be fewer restaurants...I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing, it means more business for the ones that survive, more business = more profit, more profit = ability to pay higher wages, higher wages = a happier, healthier workforce.

[LANDM]

As is often said, the best way to end up with a million bucks in the Okanagan is to come with two or three million and open a restaurant.
Unfortunately, instead of being looked at as a business that requires shrewd operational skills and an in-depth knowledge of the business and food, it is one where people think that, because they enjoy food and have eaten in restaurants, they are equipped to own and operate one, profitably. It seldom happens that way.

[Sparki55]

Small business is an important part of our economy, but I also think perhaps we have too many restaurants.

Don't know how much you go out but b4 the pandemic each time I went out from wed-sat night most places were stuffed full and thriving. It's the pandemic. Sure many restaurants don't make it but that's not an excuse for the government to turn the taps off during a pandemic that it's forcefully reducing revenue.

[Catsumi]

Now where did those workers get to, I wonder??

https://www.castanet.net/edition/news-s ... htm#349545. (Bold is mine)


An internal government analysis on the Canada Recovery Benefit says the majority of recipients who received the federal help were continuous or repeat beneficiaries of the now-ended aid program.

The analysis from Employment and Social Development Canada found that by early June,1.5 million, or about 75 per cent of the 1.8 million unique recipients of the benefit, were continuous or repeat beneficiaries.

Among them were some 627,000 recipients who applied and received the benefit for months at a time, never once taking a break.

The Canadian Press obtained a copy of the briefing note to the top official at the department under access to information law.

Experts who reviewed the document suggest the analysis hints at the level of need for the income-support program, which came to an end over the weekend.

As of Oct. 10, the CRB had paid out just over $27 billion to nearly 2.2 million applicants since its launch in late Septe

[nucksRnum1]

Now where did those workers get to, I wonder??

https://www.castanet.net/edition/news-s ... htm#349545. (Bold is mine)


An internal government analysis on the Canada Recovery Benefit says the majority of recipients who received the federal help were continuous or repeat beneficiaries of the now-ended aid program.

The analysis from Employment and Social Development Canada found that by early June,1.5 million, or about 75 per cent of the 1.8 million unique recipients of the benefit, were continuous or repeat beneficiaries.

Among them were some 627,000 recipients who applied and received the benefit for months at a time, never once taking a break.

The Canadian Press obtained a copy of the briefing note to the top official at the department under access to information law.

Experts who reviewed the document suggest the analysis hints at the level of need for the income-support program, which came to an end over the weekend.

As of Oct. 10, the CRB had paid out just over $27 billion to nearly 2.2 million applicants since its launch in late Septe

It was well worth the money. It eliminated the riff-raff contractors and scabs that filled the void after unions were busted. And ensured that places like McDonalds pay 17.50 plus and hour.

[Catri]

Small business is an important part of our economy, but I also think perhaps we have too many restaurants.

Don't know how much you go out but b4 the pandemic each time I went out from wed-sat night most places were stuffed full and thriving. It's the pandemic. Sure many restaurants don't make it but that's not an excuse for the government to turn the taps off during a pandemic that it's forcefully reducing revenue.

That the restaurants you frequented prior to the pandemic were busy makes sense, I have no doubt they were (or at least appeared to you to be) thriving. Thriving restaurants are usually busy restaurants. That doesn't mean that all, or even most, restaurants were thriving or will thrive after the pandemic. The industry is notorious for it's failure rate. In any event, my point stands, maybe we have too many restaurants, maybe the long term effects of the pandemic will be to thin the herd of restaurants, which won't happen when they're being propped up by government handouts.

[PoplarSoul]

Thriving restaurants are usually busy restaurants. That doesn't mean that all, or even most, restaurants were thriving or will thrive after the pandemic. The industry is notorious for it's failure rate.

Agree.

Restaurant Success Rate:
What Percentage Of Restaurants Fail? Approximately 60% of restaurants fail within the first year of operation and 80% fail within the first five years. These numbers may seem off-putting, but the remaining 20% of restaurants go on to find long-term growth and success.

[Sparki55]

That the restaurants you frequented prior to the pandemic were busy makes sense, I have no doubt they were (or at least appeared to you to be) thriving. Thriving restaurants are usually busy restaurants. That doesn't mean that all, or even most, restaurants were thriving or will thrive after the pandemic. The industry is notorious for it's failure rate. In any event, my point stands, maybe we have too many restaurants, maybe the long term effects of the pandemic will be to thin the herd of restaurants, which won't happen when they're being propped up by government handouts.

You just admitted the government pandemic restrictions were the cause of their decline... Thanks.

[Ka-El]

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[gardengirl]

Now where did those workers get to, I wonder??

https://www.castanet.net/edition/news-s ... htm#349545. (Bold is mine)


An internal government analysis on the Canada Recovery Benefit says the majority of recipients who received the federal help were continuous or repeat beneficiaries of the now-ended aid program.

The analysis from Employment and Social Development Canada found that by early June,1.5 million, or about 75 per cent of the 1.8 million unique recipients of the benefit, were continuous or repeat beneficiaries.

Among them were some 627,000 recipients who applied and received the benefit for months at a time, never once taking a break.

The Canadian Press obtained a copy of the briefing note to the top official at the department under access to information law.

Experts who reviewed the document suggest the analysis hints at the level of need for the income-support program, which came to an end over the weekend.

As of Oct. 10, the CRB had paid out just over $27 billion to nearly 2.2 million applicants since its launch in late Septe

I love the interpretation that is hinted at here. Perhaps they could have interpreted it differently. There are a lot of people willing to sit on the dole instead of getting a job. At first it was supposed to be a couple months of assistance, now after over a year, people are still mooching. They stated it themselves, that people stayed on it for months at a time, never taking a break.

There are help wanted signs all over the place, but why bother when you can sit at home an play video games all day on the taxpayer's dime?

Instead of continuing CERB or whatever they are calling it this week, how about creating an incentive to go back to work? Maybe make a continuing education requirement to stay on the program? How about having to prove that you are actively looking for work? Maybe make recipients participate in employment counselling?

[Babba_not_Gump]

Now where did those workers get to, I wonder??

https://www.castanet.net/edition/news-s ... htm#349545. (Bold is mine)


An internal government analysis on the Canada Recovery Benefit says the majority of recipients who received the federal help were continuous or repeat beneficiaries of the now-ended aid program.

The analysis from Employment and Social Development Canada found that by early June,1.5 million, or about 75 per cent of the 1.8 million unique recipients of the benefit, were continuous or repeat beneficiaries.

Among them were some 627,000 recipients who applied and received the benefit for months at a time, never once taking a break.

The Canadian Press obtained a copy of the briefing note to the top official at the department under access to information law.

Experts who reviewed the document suggest the analysis hints at the level of need for the income-support program, which came to an end over the weekend.

As of Oct. 10, the CRB had paid out just over $27 billion to nearly 2.2 million applicants since its launch in late Septe

I love the interpretation that is hinted at here. Perhaps they could have interpreted it differently. There are a lot of people willing to sit on the dole instead of getting a job. At first it was supposed to be a couple months of assistance, now after over a year, people are still mooching. They stated it themselves, that people stayed on it for months at a time, never taking a break.

There are help wanted signs all over the place, but why bother when you can sit at home an play video games all day on the taxpayer's dime?

Been there, said that, and some still refuse to believe it.

As for this statement,
Experts who reviewed the document suggest the analysis hints at the level of need for the income-support program, which came to an end over the weekend.
And who might these "experts" be?

[Catsumi]

Bb49:wrote:

. And who might these "experts" be?

Everyone “needs” something or other that doesn't require an expert to point out. Those experts shall be nameless, hidden behind a wall of bafflegab; the grey men who are building the New World Order.

Expect that future prognostications from them will underline this “need” for ongoing handouts in perpetuity to ensure the able-bodied never have to work a day to earn, yes, EARN, their living. All sustenance will flow easily from the taxpayer wallet until they are tapped out …then what? Print more devalued dollars? Tax the working class even more than before?

Someday this circus wheel will grind to a halt under its own weight…backlash and disruption coming .

Those “experts” will still be hidden from us, behind smoke and mirrors.

We live in interesting times.

[Catri]

That the restaurants you frequented prior to the pandemic were busy makes sense, I have no doubt they were (or at least appeared to you to be) thriving. Thriving restaurants are usually busy restaurants. That doesn't mean that all, or even most, restaurants were thriving or will thrive after the pandemic. The industry is notorious for it's failure rate. In any event, my point stands, maybe we have too many restaurants, maybe the long term effects of the pandemic will be to thin the herd of restaurants, which won't happen when they're being propped up by government handouts.

You just admitted the government pandemic restrictions were the cause of their decline... Thanks.

Don’t put words in my mouth. If that was your interpretation of what I said, you need to work on your reading comprehension.

[Sparki55]

Don’t put words in my mouth. If that was your interpretation of what I said, you need to work on your reading comprehension.

There were more restaurants open before the pandemic and they have closed their doors more often since the restrictions.

Sales at eating and drinking establishments in Canada dropped 28% from the year before, Statistics Canada reported Thursday in Ottawa. That’s the largest drop in records dating back more than two decades and shows the extent to which large-scale closures and restrictions affected business activity.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.aljaze ... -on-record

I'm fact based and your opinion is based on your feelings towards restaurants.

[Catsumi]

Now where did those workers get to, I wonder??

https://www.castanet.net/edition/news-s ... htm#349545. (Bold is mine)


An internal government analysis on the Canada Recovery Benefit says the majority of recipients who received the federal help were continuous or repeat beneficiaries of the now-ended aid program.

The analysis from Employment and Social Development Canada found that by early June,1.5 million, or about 75 per cent of the 1.8 million unique recipients of the benefit, were continuous or repeat beneficiaries.

Among them were some 627,000 recipients who applied and received the benefit for months at a time, never once taking a break.

The Canadian Press obtained a copy of the briefing note to the top official at the department under access to information law.

Experts who reviewed the document suggest the analysis hints at the level of need for the income-support program, which came to an end over the weekend.

As of Oct. 10, the CRB had paid out just over $27 billion to nearly 2.2 million applicants since its launch in late Septe

Unless you wear horse-eye blinders, it’s pretty obvious why restaurants cannot compete with the deep pockets of governmental largesse (unwillingly, the taxpayer). Argue all you wish that wages just aren’t high enough to even consider working as a burger flipper for $17.50/hr) but keep in mind that CRB or whatever it is called this week, will end.