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two wrote: Nov 1st, 2021, 1:48 pm https://www.forbes.com/sites/jemimamcev ... 1ed0b61ac5

"vaccinated-may-transmit-delta-just-as-easily"

stop the spread, do it for your loved ones, Doctors and Nurses are safer to their patients... ... fire them so that unvaccinated dont dirty the hospitals and coerce them to do things against their will... Science is fact already no need for debate... mis information ...

fear, censorship, coercion and mandates are wrong. Just as many of you on this forum continue to enforce.
I heard 500 doctors were among the 4000 put on leave in the province... why are we not being given a breakdown of how many specialists, doctors, nurse practitioners, RNs, health aides are being canned?????
I'm in contact with one MD and his wife, they are sad to leave but will go to the US as, I'm sure, the others will. A terrible loss for our health system.
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Mtn Biker wrote: Nov 1st, 2021, 2:09 pm Not terrified at all. Frankly feel sorry for those risking adverse affects or even death because of fear of the vaccine. So who is terrified ... really, fess up, it's ok to be scared.
They are beyond terrified. They're making full out unrational life altering decisions based on their conspiracy driven fear.
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This will be good for job openings only jabbed people need apply
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nanita wrote: Nov 1st, 2021, 2:24 pm I'm in contact with one MD and his wife, they are sad to leave but will go to the US as, I'm sure, the others will. A terrible loss for our health system.
How do they expect to get there or stay there?

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-nc ... nated.html
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Are a noncitizen nonimmigrant
Do not qualify as fully vaccinated in the United States
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Based on your answers, you may not be able to board a flight to the United States
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If you intend to stay in the U.S. for longer than sixty (60) days, you agree to be vaccinated against COVID-19 and have arranged to become fully vaccinated against COVID-19 within 60 days of arriving in the United States or as soon as medically appropriate, unless (for children), you are too young to be vaccinated.
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LordEd wrote: Nov 1st, 2021, 3:01 pm
nanita wrote: Nov 1st, 2021, 2:24 pm I'm in contact with one MD and his wife, they are sad to leave but will go to the US as, I'm sure, the others will. A terrible loss for our health system.
How do they expect to get there or stay there?

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-nc ... nated.html
You indicated that you:
Are a noncitizen nonimmigrant
Do not qualify as fully vaccinated in the United States
times circle solid icon
Based on your answers, you may not be able to board a flight to the United States
Also
If you intend to stay in the U.S. for longer than sixty (60) days, you agree to be vaccinated against COVID-19 and have arranged to become fully vaccinated against COVID-19 within 60 days of arriving in the United States or as soon as medically appropriate, unless (for children), you are too young to be vaccinated.
I don't know the details of their immigration process, LordEd, as this is all unfolding in real time. I DO know, however, that Canada had to walk back their travel mandate. Restricting freedom of movement, is, as you know, against our Charter in Canada and is unconstitutional in the USA. Both Biden and Trudeau need to tread lightly here, as there has been, and will continue to be, tremendous pushback on this particular mandate.
Whether or not either government actually succeeds in restricting travel to only the vaccinated remains to be seen. My sense is that, no, they will need to accept a negative test, and of course, as the mandates roll out, so does mounting evidence of the dangers and ineffectiveness of the gene therapy.
Time will tell. I wish this doctor and his wife the best. They exhausted all options and are genuinely sad it's come to this. He works in a small town, so it's a big blow for his community.
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nanita wrote: Nov 1st, 2021, 3:32 pm I don't know the details of their immigration process, LordEd, as this is all unfolding in real time. I DO know, however, that Canada had to walk back their travel mandate. Restricting freedom of movement, is, as you know, against our Charter in Canada and is unconstitutional in the USA. Both Biden and Trudeau need to tread lightly here, as there has been, and will continue to be, tremendous pushback on this particular mandate.
You need a foreign country to want to accept you if you want to go there. Nobody wants these undesirable anti-vax idiots. They have enough medical liability without adding to them.
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nanita wrote: Nov 1st, 2021, 3:32 pm
I don't know the details of their immigration process, LordEd, as this is all unfolding in real time. I DO know, however, that Canada had to walk back their travel mandate. Restricting freedom of movement, is, as you know, against our Charter in Canada and is unconstitutional in the USA. Both Biden and Trudeau need to tread lightly here, as there has been, and will continue to be, tremendous pushback on this particular mandate.
Whether or not either government actually succeeds in restricting travel to only the vaccinated remains to be seen. My sense is that, no, they will need to accept a negative test, and of course, as the mandates roll out, so does mounting evidence of the dangers and ineffectiveness of the gene therapy.
Time will tell. I wish this doctor and his wife the best. They exhausted all options and are genuinely sad it's come to this. He works in a small town, so it's a big blow for his community.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, the Government needs to "tread lightly", this is "unconstitutional", this is against "human rights" - so were masks according to you and your Constitution and Law "experts" yet not one successful challenge, not even your "Nuremberg Trials 2.0" [icon_lol2.gif]
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"freedom of movement"
6. (1) Every citizen of Canada has the right to enter, remain in and leave Canada.

(2) Every citizen of Canada and every person who has the status of a permanent resident of Canada has the right:

to move to and take up residence in any province; and
to pursue the gaining of a livelihood in any province.
You can go live anywhere in Canada. Doesn't mean you can drive without a license to get there, or be allowed to board a plane to get there. You can work in any province. Doesn't mean any employer will want you.

You can leave Canada. Doesn't mean any other country will accept you for entry, or that a commercial airline is required to take you there.
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LordEd wrote: Nov 1st, 2021, 3:54 pm "freedom of movement"
6. (1) Every citizen of Canada has the right to enter, remain in and leave Canada.

(2) Every citizen of Canada and every person who has the status of a permanent resident of Canada has the right:

to move to and take up residence in any province; and
to pursue the gaining of a livelihood in any province.
You can go live anywhere in Canada. Doesn't mean you can drive without a license to get there, or be allowed to board a plane to get there. You can work in any province. Doesn't mean any employer will want you.

You can leave Canada. Doesn't mean any other country will accept you for entry, or that a commercial airline is required to take you there.
Yes. That's why Trudeau had to walk back his travel mandate.
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nanita wrote: Nov 1st, 2021, 3:56 pm
LordEd wrote: Nov 1st, 2021, 3:54 pm "freedom of movement"



You can go live anywhere in Canada. Doesn't mean you can drive without a license to get there, or be allowed to board a plane to get there. You can work in any province. Doesn't mean any employer will want you.

You can leave Canada. Doesn't mean any other country will accept you for entry, or that a commercial airline is required to take you there.
Yes. That's why Trudeau had to walk back his travel mandate.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jemimamcev ... 1ed0b61ac5


if this is true like many now slandered researchers have eluded to what is the point in the mandates other then illegally coercing people ?
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Maybe try focusing for more than 2 paragraphs. Try getting to #3
PHE called the research just “early exploratory analysis” and wrote that “further targeted studies” are needed to determine the extent to which vaccinated people can spread the delta variant to others.
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LordEd wrote: Nov 1st, 2021, 3:54 pm "freedom of movement"
6. (1) Every citizen of Canada has the right to enter, remain in and leave Canada.

(2) Every citizen of Canada and every person who has the status of a permanent resident of Canada has the right:

to move to and take up residence in any province; and
to pursue the gaining of a livelihood in any province.
You can go live anywhere in Canada. Doesn't mean you can drive without a license to get there, or be allowed to board a plane to get there. You can work in any province. Doesn't mean any employer will want you.

You can leave Canada. Doesn't mean any other country will accept you for entry, or that a commercial airline is required to take you there.
What about remote communities? Communities that can only be accessed by air?
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Already has an exemption.

Or walk/swim. Ride a moose. Just try not to infect it.
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Beerhunter341 wrote: Nov 1st, 2021, 4:23 pm
What about remote communities? Communities that can only be accessed by air?
They're exempt.
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OKkayak wrote: Nov 1st, 2021, 4:32 pm
Beerhunter341 wrote: Nov 1st, 2021, 4:23 pm
What about remote communities? Communities that can only be accessed by air?
They're exempt.
Just to clarify. ANYONE can TRAVEL anywhere in Canada, by ANY MEANS, with a negative test. On a plane, on a train, on a bike or a hike.
Transport Canada has announced this. The insane travel mandate was pushed back and is likely unenforceable.
A public announcement by Justin Trudeau is NOT A LAW, however much he might like it to be! We unvaccinated are still travelling and will continue to do so!!!!

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