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Silverstarqueen wrote: Nov 2nd, 2021, 5:05 pm
rustled wrote: Nov 2nd, 2021, 3:29 pm
Either daughter makes sense to me, which is - I think - the point. You're quite certain of what you're quite certain of, as is your prerogative.

It's entirely possible you are right about who infected him. I suppose you might even know for sure whether or not the vaccinated daughter was tested for covid... and the rest of his circle of contacts.

Cuz again: we're told the vaccinated are less likely to be symptomatic, less likely to know they're ill, less likely to be home sick in bed etc. ...

Yup, that's who's most likely to end up with serious cases, in hospital or ICU (and not at work!) It's not necessarily, though, the unvaccinated who are disproportionately spreading it around.

We know the vaccinated are less symptomatic and therefore less likely to be aware they're infectious. Ignoring that reality just seems pointless to me.
You stick to that tune, if you like it so well. If one (vaccinated) daughter visits and Dad does not get sick, other daughter (Unvaccinated)visits and Dad gets sick, you have to believe it was the vaccinated daughter against all logic. Just one more example of how fiercely some people will deny reality to support their misconceptions.
LOL. I've never denied the unvaccinated daughter may have been the source of her father's infection, but here you've laid it out that she visited her father and got sick - wrong way round.

It's completely illogical to deny the possibility the vaccinated daughter could have been the source of her father's infection, unless she was tested daily?

It seems to me fiercely denying reality to stick to a tune is in the eye of the beholder, here. I'm comfortable with the possibility he got it from either daughter - and I'm not comfortable with blaming either of them for his death.
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^This question has been addressed soooo many times. We all know how infectious Covid is and how it's transmitted. I really don't understand why the same questions are repeatedly asked and then people repeatedly state that their rights are being tramples and on and on the merry-go-round goes.

I'm surprised anti-vaxxers aren't upset they can't drink and drive or carry a gun around or use a flamethrower to light their cigarettes instead of a lighter. Where's all the "but my rights!!!!" attitude with everything else?
If its so infectious, a lot of the unvaxxed will have acquired natural immunity by now.
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Silverstarqueen wrote: Nov 2nd, 2021, 5:17 pm
domain wrote: Nov 2nd, 2021, 4:36 pm
Yes.
I can't fly, or take a passenger train.
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If you took a moment to search, you would see that life as an unvaccinated person in Canada has more in common with Jews in early 30's Eastern Europe than a modern day western nation.

If the Jews could have acquired full rights by getting a vaccine like every other citizen, they would have. If someone has a religious exemption for the vaccine, or a medical one, they have a good reason for it. You are not being put in a concentration camp and gassed for the sake of a vaccine. There is no comparison, and trying to make the comparison makes those doing it look really ignorant.


I don't have to respond to this post. It says all that is needed to be said on its own.
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domain wrote: Nov 2nd, 2021, 5:20 pm
TheLiteralKingofEngland wrote: Nov 2nd, 2021, 5:08 pm

^This question has been addressed soooo many times. We all know how infectious Covid is and how it's transmitted. I really don't understand why the same questions are repeatedly asked and then people repeatedly state that their rights are being tramples and on and on the merry-go-round goes.

I'm surprised anti-vaxxers aren't upset they can't drink and drive or carry a gun around or use a flamethrower to light their cigarettes instead of a lighter. Where's all the "but my rights!!!!" attitude with everything else?
Because people who believe that they have a right to decide if they get injected or not, without conditions being placed on their other rights, are not irrational people. It is only those psychopaths who think that others should do what they think is right for them, would assume otherwise, and would end up being the irrational ones.

Only one group of people are advocating for other people to violate their bodily autonomy or else suffer the consequences for not complying with those demands. Sadly, it appears to not be a minority who 'think' this way, and that doesn't bode well for the future of everyone.
It's going to be interesting to look back on this current era of scapegoating for non-conformity, responding out of fear and ignorance, and those promoting mob mentality.
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WESTman wrote: Nov 2nd, 2021, 5:20 pm

^This question has been addressed soooo many times. We all know how infectious Covid is and how it's transmitted. I really don't understand why the same questions are repeatedly asked and then people repeatedly state that their rights are being tramples and on and on the merry-go-round goes.

I'm surprised anti-vaxxers aren't upset they can't drink and drive or carry a gun around or use a flamethrower to light their cigarettes instead of a lighter. Where's all the "but my rights!!!!" attitude with everything else?
If its so infectious, a lot of the unvaxxed will have acquired natural immunity by now.
And many have not yet. People are still getting infected and still turning up in hospital. So they need to stop that.
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Increases in COVID‑19 are unrelated to levels of vaccination across 68
countries and 2947 counties in the United States
https://link.springer.com/content/pdf/1 ... 0808-7.pdf
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domain wrote: Nov 2nd, 2021, 4:36 pm
PoplarSoul wrote: Nov 2nd, 2021, 4:25 pm Are you seriously comparing yourself to the 1930's European Jews?
Yes.
Imagine being so privileged that the most oppressed you’ve ever felt is being offered a life-saving vaccine, for free, specifically designed to keep you and your family safe.
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two wrote: Nov 2nd, 2021, 7:59 pm Increases in COVID‑19 are unrelated to levels of vaccination across 68
countries and 2947 counties in the United States
https://link.springer.com/content/pdf/1 ... 0808-7.pdf
Israel has a population a little over 9 million. 7day average daily deaths of about 6. So less than 1 in a million populations per day.

In the u.s. Vaccines have saved many lives.
https://www.dailynews.com/2021/10/31/va ... dels-show/
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https://www.thebeaverton.com/2021/11/sn ... -lollipop/
Sniffling anti-vaxxers finally relent after being offered a lollipop

CANADA ― In an unforeseen turn of events, anti-vaxxers across Canada suddenly announced their willingness to take a Covid shot today, after realizing that lollipops would be available afterward.

Since the Pfizer vaccine was approved for children ages 5-11, vaccination clinics have been stocking up on candy in order to persuade Canadian youth to yield their arms to the big, scary needles. Providers hope that the sweets will prevent kids from throwing screaming temper tantrums like their parents and grandparents have been doing for months.
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“I don’t really know why we didn’t say so earlier. Some of us just didn’t know what would make the boo-boo better, and some of us didn’t want to admit that we were afraid of the needle, because big people aren’t scared of anything,” said Jenny Tyler, a 46-year-old resident of Saskatchewan who had recently received her first dose of Moderna after making sure that the local clinic had grape flavour.

Albertan doctor Veronica Blair has seen a surge of appointments in the past few days. “Pfizer, Moderna, Astrazeneca… they’ll take whatever we have.” She noted that she had a lot of patients asking for the Sputnik V vaccine because the name sounded ‘cool, like the satellite,’ but that those who were upset to learn it wasn’t approved in Canada were quickly mollified by a Spongebob Squarepants bandage.
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Campbell noted that the approach was proving to be just as successful as giving out stickers for voting and offering bubblegum toothpaste or treasure chests full of toys at the dentist. Similar strategies are being implemented outside Canada, with French doctors following veterinarians’ advice to hide the vaccine in only the best Roquefort cheese, and gun-lovers worldwide being offered the used syringe to keep as a water gun. One exception is Australia, where the preferred method is to simply grab the vaccine-hesitant in a headlock and jab them in the buttocks.
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Jonrox wrote: Nov 2nd, 2021, 8:02 pm Imagine being so privileged that the most oppressed you’ve ever felt is being offered a life-saving vaccine, for free, specifically designed to keep you and your family safe.
Being offered the vaccine isn't the problem.
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LordEd wrote: Nov 2nd, 2021, 8:26 pm
Since the Pfizer vaccine was approved for children ages 5-11, vaccination clinics have been stocking up on candy in order to persuade Canadian youth to yield their arms
Yeah, That sounds about right.
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domain wrote: ↑Today, 4:36 pm

Yes.
I can't fly, or take a passenger train.
.........
If you took a moment to search, you would see that life as an unvaccinated person in Canada has more in common with Jews in early 30's Eastern Europe than a modern day western nation.
domain wrote: Nov 2nd, 2021, 5:22 pm
Silverstarqueen wrote: Nov 2nd, 2021, 5:17 pm
If the Jews could have acquired full rights by getting a vaccine like every other citizen, they would have. If someone has a religious exemption for the vaccine, or a medical one, they have a good reason for it. You are not being put in a concentration camp and gassed for the sake of a vaccine. There is no comparison, and trying to make the comparison makes those doing it look really ignorant.
I don't have to respond to this post. It says all that is needed to be said on its own.
You really should respond to that post. By remaining silent only shows your disrespect to the holocaust and the survivors. There is no comparison between a worldwide public health crisis and the events of 80 years ago. You need to explain your comment. Please.
Common sense is so uncommon
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Kodidad wrote: Nov 2nd, 2021, 9:43 pm By remaining silent only shows your disrespect to the holocaust and the survivors.
I think thats the point.

It's not that the poster believes the hardships of the anti vax are comparable. The poster doesn't believe what happened during the holocaust and chooses to minimize that.

It's not uncommon in that crew. One of their leaders is a well known holocaust denialist.
https://www.toronto99.com/2021/07/14/ch ... ebel-news/

Many of them are just using anti vax to spread their other ideas and recruit new members to their own causes.
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https://gulfnews.com/photos/news/buryin ... 86?slide=2

https://collections.ushmm.org/search/catalog/pa6790

My mistake. There is a correlation between the holocaust and covid 19
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vinnied wrote: Nov 2nd, 2021, 8:59 pm
LordEd wrote: Nov 2nd, 2021, 8:26 pm
Yeah, That sounds about right.
And in other news:
VACCINE HESITANT RCMP OFFICERS FLOCK TO VACCINATION CLINIC WHERE TIM'S DONUTS AND COFFEE REWARDS OFFERED

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