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Silverstarqueen wrote: Nov 2nd, 2021, 7:11 pm
You once told me the vaccine was better then naturally aquired immunity

https://brownstone.org/articles/79-rese ... nd-quoted/

in this next link
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/harva ... -immunity/

Kulldorf, noting both studies cannot be right, said he has never “never before seen such a large discrepancy between studies that are supposed to answer the same question.”

thats pretty alarming and couldn't be because its so politically motivated and profitable could it ?

People need to settle down with the mandate support. mandates are not helpful.
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Doctor who think we should do herd immunity disagrees with study opposing his position. Alt media and his own "institute" agrees. In other news, weather is colder in winter than summer.
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If a government was looking to increase their power and control through a depopulation effort, would it make more sense to kill off the people obeying everything they say or those fighting them on everything?

If the goal is increased power and control, they want the 80% of us who followed what they said to stick around. We're not the ones they would want dead.
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two wrote: Nov 3rd, 2021, 12:01 pm
Silverstarqueen wrote: Nov 2nd, 2021, 7:11 pm
You once told me the vaccine was better then naturally aquired immunity

https://brownstone.org/articles/79-rese ... nd-quoted/

in this next link
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/harva ... -immunity/

Kulldorf, noting both studies cannot be right, said he has never “never before seen such a large discrepancy between studies that are supposed to answer the same question.”

thats pretty alarming and couldn't be because its so politically motivated and profitable could it ?

People need to settle down with the mandate support. mandates are not helpful.
They obviously haven't done the math for the masses to acquire "herd immunity" by naturally acquired immunity. Just in Canada, millions would have to die for the population to reach "herd immunity" using 65% of population (herd) and 0.1 kill rate for Covid.
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vinnied wrote: Nov 3rd, 2021, 6:21 am https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... rmany.html
"Fully vaccinated air passenger infected with coronavirus is found dead in his seat after landing at German airport following flight from Turkey"
Damn...
In other news: Boosters soon to be required for all internations travellers.
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two wrote: Nov 3rd, 2021, 12:01 pm
Silverstarqueen wrote: Nov 2nd, 2021, 7:11 pm
You once told me the vaccine was better then naturally aquired immunity
......
Would you say given a large population, say Canada, it would be better to go with no vaccine and take the 2% case fatality rate, shutdowns, rolling businesses closed, high risk of international travel.... Or go with the vaccine with a much lower rate of cases, hospitalizations, ICU stays, deaths?
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Vaccines work well for people will normal immune system, not so much for people on immune suppressing drugs.
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samsquench07 wrote: Nov 3rd, 2021, 7:27 am If this man was unvaccinated. His death would be Covid

Now that he is double vaxxed. They will probably say something else
Cause of death has not been disclosed at this time.
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Silverstarqueen wrote: Nov 3rd, 2021, 4:10 pm Vaccines work well for people will normal immune system, not so much for people on immune suppressing drugs.
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/health/medica ... d=msedgntp
This is why we've been contacted to get the third shot, and that accompanied by instructions to cease taking our immunosuppressant medication, one week prior to getting the shot, as well as one week after.
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Wanna know why Trudeau pushed the vaccines so hard?. Want to know why the BC govt is pushing so hard
https://thedaily.ca/news/2021/11/03/jus ... canadians/

Dont trust that web site? Here, go strait to the source.

https://acuitastx.com/news-events/

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LordEd wrote: Nov 3rd, 2021, 12:13 pm Doctor who think we should do herd immunity disagrees with study opposing his position. Alt media and his own "institute" agrees. In other news, weather is colder in winter than summer.
Only a complete criminal would claim natural immunity isn't as good as the vaccine. THe vaccine was created for a strain that isn't even around anymore. Natural immunity is done by the system that runs the system. Perfectly done for the individual. That's very well known and obvious. unfortunately the masses are so emotionally tied to their decisions to inject a vaccine for a strian that isnt around and has high risks associated with it. Because of that emotional tie, they will deny evidence at all costs.
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vinnied wrote: Nov 3rd, 2021, 6:21 am https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... rmany.html
"Fully vaccinated air passenger infected with coronavirus is found dead in his seat after landing at German airport following flight from Turkey"
Damn...
The story does point out that this person did suffer from a few other illnesses prior. Also that he did test positive for C19 yet it is unknown if C19 was the cause of death.

"The official cause of the man's death is not clear although local reports have suggested he had suffered from a number of serious prior illnesses, which were not specified."

"The official cause of the man's death is not clear although local reports have suggested he had suffered from a number of serious prior illnesses, which were not specified."


What I suspect is that cause of death as with a very high %age of all C19 death's worldwide is that pre-existing conditions were probably the main cause of death, and that unfortunately contracting C19 was the final straw. Though many on these forums believe that C19 has been the "actual cause" of most death's and not just a contributing factor must remember that most death's have been in a particular age demographic. I would imagine that that are death's specifically due to C19, but those are in the extreme low end of the equation.

While no death is something to argue over as to why it happened, we are 90% through this pandemic. Many experts from across the globe are estimating early March 2022 to be the date that we finally see this virus fade out and become just another yearly strain.

WE WILL BE OKAY from here on in. We need to reward the people of this province for getting us to almost 90% full vaxd and open up the entire province RESTRICTION FREE. :smt045 :up:
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DoubleB12 wrote: Nov 3rd, 2021, 5:13 pm
vinnied wrote: Nov 3rd, 2021, 6:21 am https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... rmany.html
"Fully vaccinated air passenger infected with coronavirus is found dead in his seat after landing at German airport following flight from Turkey"
Damn...
The story does point out that this person did suffer from a few other illnesses prior. Also that he did test positive for C19 yet it is unknown if C19 was the cause of death.

"The official cause of the man's death is not clear although local reports have suggested he had suffered from a number of serious prior illnesses, which were not specified."

"The official cause of the man's death is not clear although local reports have suggested he had suffered from a number of serious prior illnesses, which were not specified."


What I suspect is that cause of death as with a very high %age of all C19 death's worldwide is that pre-existing conditions were probably the main cause of death, and that unfortunately contracting C19 was the final straw. Though many on these forums believe that C19 has been the "actual cause" of most death's and not just a contributing factor must remember that most death's have been in a particular age demographic. I would imagine that that are death's specifically due to C19, but those are in the extreme low end of the equation.

While no death is something to argue over as to why it happened, we are 90% through this pandemic. Many experts from across the globe are estimating early March 2022 to be the date that we finally see this virus fade out and become just another yearly strain.

WE WILL BE OKAY from here on in. We need to reward the people of this province for getting us to almost 90% full vaxd and open up the entire province RESTRICTION FREE. :smt045 :up:
The kicker is, he was positive for covid and all the while flying around to different countries spreading his virus because he was double jabbed.. Yet the unvaxxed cant even coach a damn football team.
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vinnied wrote: Nov 3rd, 2021, 5:19 pm
The kicker is, he was positive for covid and all the while flying around to different countries spreading his virus because he was double jabbed.. Yet the unvaxxed cant even coach a damn football team.
And how would this scenario have turned out any better if unvaccinated were allowed to fly?
The point of vaccinating is to reduce the chance (therefore the occurances) of this sort of outcome.
They could add testing on top of vaccination status as another layer of protection in eliminating most covid positive cases. (as has been suggested for healthcare workers)
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Silverstarqueen wrote: Nov 3rd, 2021, 5:26 pm
vinnied wrote: Nov 3rd, 2021, 5:19 pm
The kicker is, he was positive for covid and all the while flying around to different countries spreading his virus because he was double jabbed.. Yet the unvaxxed cant even coach a damn football team.
And how would this scenario have turned out any better if unvaccinated were allowed to fly?
The point of vaccinating is to reduce the chance (therefore the occurances) of this sort of outcome.
They could add testing on top of vaccination status as another layer of protection in eliminating most covid positive cases. (as has been suggested for healthcare workers)
Well Unvaxxinated can fly...As long as as you say, they test negative...see the difference?
speaking of health care workers, looks like no Vax mandate for Ontario health care workers. Guess all are fired workers will head east.
https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/doug-ford-re ... -1.5650760
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