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The procedure should be that people be vaccinated AND tested neg in order to fly. This would result in fewer breakthrus, but the testing would catch some/most of those.
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vinnied wrote: Nov 3rd, 2021, 5:35 pm As long as as you say, they test negative...see the difference?
Because you trust the test results fully...
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Silverstarqueen wrote: Nov 3rd, 2021, 5:26 pm
vinnied wrote: Nov 3rd, 2021, 5:19 pm
The kicker is, he was positive for covid and all the while flying around to different countries spreading his virus because he was double jabbed.. Yet the unvaxxed cant even coach a damn football team.
And how would this scenario have turned out any better if unvaccinated were allowed to fly?
The point of vaccinating is to reduce the chance (therefore the occurances) of this sort of outcome.
They could add testing on top of vaccination status as another layer of protection in eliminating most covid positive cases. (as has been suggested for healthcare workers)
Well the vaccine causes the body to create massive amounts of spike proteins. I'm sure that doesn't have a negative effect. Funny how covid is worse now after the vaccination. Funny how covid is a stronger strain now that it had to mutate to avoid dying out. This is why they say not to vaccinate during a pandemic. Perpetual vaccines will be needed for the injected. I'm guessing that all unvaccinated will be kings soon.

Mom was pro vaxx and then her son got myocarditis. Now shes paying thousands of dollars for the rest of her life to monitor his damaged heart. Wow that's a benefit of maybe reduced symptoms. Her son is going to die early and if she had been properly warned, she probably wouldn't have done it. "I came for the immunity and left with myocarditis" guess who's going to profit off the damaged kid? Doctors and big pharma.

https://www.newswars.com/moms-twitter-t ... ne-injury/
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Just reported on Global National, no vax mandate for healthcare workers in either Ontario or Quebec.

Ontario population = 14.8 million with a double dose rate of 74.1%
Quebec population = 8.4 million with a double dose rate of 79.4%
BC population = 5.2 million double dose rate of 85.5%

So we out perform both ON/QB by 11% and 6% respectively. Nearly 10 million more in ON and 3 million more in QB than we have here in BC. So while Horgan/Dix/Henry are pushing that vax mandate narrative to protect public health, based on those numbers is sure seems that this is more politically motivated than for public health.

I'm not arguing about the fact that the vax has helped, I have not been in favor of any sort of mandate. So if the 2 provinces with the highest population can manage this virus w/o mandated vax shots for healthcare workers, there is absolutely no reason why BC cant do the same especially with a higher double jab rate!! JDH need to get their heads out of their *bleep* and take the high road. Get those people back to work, have them prove no infection with a negative test!! Enough is enough already!!
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LordEd wrote: Nov 3rd, 2021, 5:42 pm
vinnied wrote: Nov 3rd, 2021, 5:35 pm As long as as you say, they test negative...see the difference?
Because you trust the test results fully...
The tests are better than getting vaccinated and killing more people by being a super spreader. Vaccinated, if infected have 250X the viral load in their nasal passages. This makes sense, they body is told to mass produce spike proteins all over their bodies.
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DoubleB12 wrote: Nov 3rd, 2021, 6:26 pm Just reported on Global National, no vax mandate for healthcare workers in either Ontario or Quebec.

Ontario population = 14.8 million with a double dose rate of 74.1%
Quebec population = 8.4 million with a double dose rate of 79.4%
BC population = 5.2 million double dose rate of 85.5%

So we out perform both ON/QB by 11% and 6% respectively. Nearly 10 million more in ON and 3 million more in QB than we have here in BC. So while Horgan/Dix/Henry are pushing that vax mandate narrative to protect public health, based on those numbers is sure seems that this is more politically motivated than for public health.

I'm not arguing about the fact that the vax has helped, I have not been in favor of any sort of mandate. So if the 2 provinces with the highest population can manage this virus w/o mandated vax shots for healthcare workers, there is absolutely no reason why BC cant do the same especially with a higher double jab rate!! JDH need to get their heads out of their *bleep* and take the high road. Get those people back to work, have them prove no infection with a negative test!! Enough is enough already!!
WE WILL BE OAKY :smt045 :smt045
Are you saying the vaccine has lowered deaths and numbers of ALL covid cases since prior to vaccination? How are people not seeing that the vaccine caused the mutation? Vaccinate, then we get a spike of covid in the summer? What more clear data do we need?
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Wow now all these outbreaks on NHL teams.

Everyone fully vaccinated, perfect health surrounded by nazi levels of mask mandates and cleanliness.

2 more weeks guys.
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Well the vaccine causes the body to create massive amounts of spike proteins. I'm sure that doesn't have a negative effect. Funny how covid is worse now after the vaccination. Funny how covid is a stronger strain now that it had to mutate to avoid dying out. This is why they say not to vaccinate during a pandemic. Perpetual vaccines will be needed for the injected. I'm guessing that all unvaccinated will be kings soon.

Mom was pro vaxx and then her son got myocarditis. Now shes paying thousands of dollars for the rest of her life to monitor his damaged heart. Wow that's a benefit of maybe reduced symptoms. Her son is going to die early and if she had been properly warned, she probably wouldn't have done it. "I came for the immunity and left with myocarditis" guess who's going to profit off the damaged kid? Doctors and big pharma.

https://www.newswars.com/moms-twitter-t ... ne-injury/
That's sad, its what happens when people don't understand risk/reward. Children, teens and young adults should not be getting vaccinated period. And it's interesting all these articles about "Covid related" blood clots, myocarditis, strokes all started showing up at the begging of vaccine rollout, hmm....
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Kelownamade wrote: Nov 3rd, 2021, 6:27 pm Vaccinated, if infected have 250X the viral load in their nasal passages. This makes sense, they body is told to mass produce spike proteins all over their bodies.
That has no basis whatsoever in reality.
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LordEd wrote: Nov 3rd, 2021, 7:14 pm
Kelownamade wrote: Nov 3rd, 2021, 6:27 pm Vaccinated, if infected have 250X the viral load in their nasal passages. This makes sense, they body is told to mass produce spike proteins all over their bodies.
That has no basis whatsoever in reality.
Ahh thanks for your opinion. This is science. Modify your body to create spike proteins and you'll be a super spreader of that spike protein and whatever else to programmed in the vaxxed. Ahh to be natural and functioning properly feels good.
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LordEd wrote: Nov 3rd, 2021, 7:14 pm
Kelownamade wrote: Nov 3rd, 2021, 6:27 pm Vaccinated, if infected have 250X the viral load in their nasal passages. This makes sense, they body is told to mass produce spike proteins all over their bodies.
That has no basis whatsoever in reality.
Of course it's bs.
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Kelownamade wrote: Nov 3rd, 2021, 5:04 pm
LordEd wrote: Nov 3rd, 2021, 12:13 pm Doctor who think we should do herd immunity disagrees with study opposing his position. Alt media and his own "institute" agrees. In other news, weather is colder in winter than summer.
Only a complete criminal would claim natural immunity isn't as good as the vaccine. THe vaccine was created for a strain that isn't even around anymore. Natural immunity is done by the system that runs the system. Perfectly done for the individual. That's very well known and obvious. unfortunately the masses are so emotionally tied to their decisions to inject a vaccine for a strian that isnt around and has high risks associated with it. Because of that emotional tie, they will deny evidence at all costs.
I'm pretty sure if one got "natural acquired immunity" from the alpha strain and got exposed to the Delta variant, it would be a similar result as the person that was vaxxed with the alpha strain. The body's immune system doesn't work like that but nice WILD guess, tho.........but it's a swing and a miss.
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foenix wrote: Nov 3rd, 2021, 7:42 pm
Kelownamade wrote: Nov 3rd, 2021, 5:04 pm

Only a complete criminal would claim natural immunity isn't as good as the vaccine. THe vaccine was created for a strain that isn't even around anymore. Natural immunity is done by the system that runs the system. Perfectly done for the individual. That's very well known and obvious. unfortunately the masses are so emotionally tied to their decisions to inject a vaccine for a strian that isnt around and has high risks associated with it. Because of that emotional tie, they will deny evidence at all costs.
I'm pretty sure if one got "natural acquired immunity" from the alpha strain and got exposed to the Delta variant, it would be a similar result as the person that was vaxxed with the alpha strain. The body's immune system doesn't work like that but nice WILD guess, tho.........but it's a swing and a miss.
Where is the evidence of that? Can you show where the people who got covid twice are dying? That doesn't seem to be the evidence. Looks like a swing and a Grand Slammmm! There are scientists working on a solution for the damage the vaccines caused, they are trying to make a vaccine that will make the vaccinated return back to a normal unvaccinated person. This is going to cost us billions and add that to the cost of the lockdowns and vaccine programs. Wow, it's too bad we didn't just tell these people to go back to their islands and never return.
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Kelownamade wrote: Nov 3rd, 2021, 5:04 pm
LordEd wrote: Nov 3rd, 2021, 12:13 pm Doctor who think we should do herd immunity disagrees with study opposing his position. Alt media and his own "institute" agrees. In other news, weather is colder in winter than summer.
Only a complete criminal would claim natural immunity isn't as good as the vaccine. THe vaccine was created for a strain that isn't even around anymore. Natural immunity is done by the system that runs the system. Perfectly done for the individual. That's very well known and obvious. unfortunately the masses are so emotionally tied to their decisions to inject a vaccine for a strian that isnt around and has high risks associated with it. Because of that emotional tie, they will deny evidence at all costs.
Natural immunity didn't work out so well for 28000 canadians, nor for 760000 Americans, 287,000 Mexicans.
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rustled wrote: Nov 2nd, 2021, 3:29 pm It's entirely possible you are right about who infected him. I suppose you might even know for sure whether or not the vaccinated daughter was tested for covid... and the rest of his circle of contacts.

Cuz again: we're told the vaccinated are less likely to be symptomatic, less likely to know they're ill, less likely to be home sick in bed etc. ...
We got Covid from a fully vaccinated person. She was not careful, unlike her unvaccinated co-worker who was in isolation after exposure. The vaccinated person figured it was just a cold since she wasn't very sick, and most importantly, because she had been vaccinated.
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