What we learned from the 2009 swine Flu Pandemic

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Beerhunter341 wrote: Nov 1st, 2021, 12:40 pm
Silverstarqueen wrote: Oct 6th, 2021, 9:18 am Hockey players need their vaccines because they have very delicate immune systems.
Please elaborate on this
^^ I agree, I would to hear why they have delicate immune systems :up:
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W105 wrote: Nov 1st, 2021, 11:21 am which is all true and can be verified very easily
W105 wrote: Nov 1st, 2021, 11:21 amfunny, we are fighting each other about the information that we have been told and should not question
Do not question rumble. All conspiracies are proven true..

Time to first lie: 1 minute 2 seconds. "This is not alarmist"

Investment companies investing in many companies. Who cares? Its called diversity. Fearmongering for those with no understanding of finance.

Gates health organization has partnerships with health providers. Say it isn't so! Next McDonalds is going to have partnerships with beef providers and that's a conspiracy too.

About as solid evidence as providing ancient aliens created the pyramids.

And nothing to do with health :topic:
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W105 wrote: Nov 1st, 2021, 12:42 pm
Beerhunter341 wrote: Nov 1st, 2021, 12:40 pm

Please elaborate on this
^^ I agree, I would to hear why they have delicate immune systems :up:
I thought it was delicate egos. :biggrin:
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Why are the deniers always trying to prop up their stance to the vast majority who follow the science of viruses and vaccines and do the right thing? Do they think we will somehow believe them and go out and get un-jabbed? I'm not sure what their point is unless it's to justify to themselves why they are incapable of doing a bit of solid research. I think it's just the need to belong to a group of like-minded individuals who are afraid of pretty much everything and will latch onto every scrap of conspiracy out there. A group support kind of thing.
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Randall T wrote: Nov 7th, 2021, 7:31 am ...the vast majority who follow the science of viruses and vaccines and do the right thing? ...
What the :cuss: science are you talking about? As soon as we achieved "herd immunity" both Canada, Israel and Singapore achieved an insane covid outbreak. It was caused by the vaccines.
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Thinktank wrote: Oct 6th, 2021, 7:42 am #4 -428 Canadian died from Swine Flu with 15 million vaccines, and in Poland, with about the same population as Canada, 181 people died from Swine Flu with zero vaccines.
In 2009, 15 million vaccines in Canada resulted in an extra 200 deaths, compared to Poland who had zero vaccines.
Poland's health minister never fell for the vaccine scam that time.
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Poland has over 77,000 deaths from covid - not a good sign of the times.
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Randall T wrote: Nov 7th, 2021, 7:31 am Why are the deniers always trying to prop up their stance to the vast majority who follow the science of viruses and vaccines and do the right thing? Do they think we will somehow believe them and go out and get un-jabbed? I'm not sure what their point is unless it's to justify to themselves why they are incapable of doing a bit of solid research. I think it's just the need to belong to a group of like-minded individuals who are afraid of pretty much everything and will latch onto every scrap of conspiracy out there. A group support kind of thing.
But, here's the whole break down with in our society keeping us from actually being prepared for the next killer virus.
Our whole ignorance to it has been controlled for political, financial, and ethical reason's. Far too many people also are at no time in their fight, their stance, based on what we have learnt, but rather to have their own personal health situation ignored. Their ignorance to looking after their own personal health in the first place.
When you use the word majority for your support and include science as your proof, its only your half of reality.
Their are many clinical studies, some previously posted here that in fact, 40% of people make decision s based only on what they are told to do or believe by the media and controllers. 20% more have no interest or involvement except just following the others as to be included in something. So only 40% of people are actually capable of studying, learning and understanding their own beliefs and decisions. Doesn't sound to powerful to me.
So using science to justify your majority doesn't fit.
Also, "as to justify to themselves" is exactly what's going on for many, and not just the side you are using it for. There is one here on this forum that does everything possible to ignore any of her own poor health conditions that she has created for herself. Science is science, and she is very vulnerable. But she is doing everything she can to keep it out of the decision, to have to acknowledge its her very own most contributing factor to getting sick from covid.
Its good people are talking, but their is one factor that is killing us and will kill more of you next time around. You have set aside all aspects and science related to this virus, your health vulnerability, your children's vulnerability, to join a mob that enjoys shaming, blaming and attacking others that are doing nothing more than looking at all options. Nothing more than your shot. But yes, for elderly, weak the vulnerably, then absolutely yes, take tons of shots.
I am a believer that it is actually your shot that will kill you. Obviously not directly, but if all you want to understand, all you want to do, all you will except, its not going to be enough.
So the truth is, a lot of people are not willing to buy into your weak commitment and understanding of this. The shot is not their best protection, nor their little children, its yours.
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But, here's the whole break down with in our society.......
:panic: That's all you're spreading. If it wasn't for medical research and the development of treatments over the centuries, most of us would have died of old age or disease by the age of 35, like in the Middle Ages where they got lots of exercise and didn't eat processed foods.
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liisgo wrote: Nov 7th, 2021, 8:46 am
Randall T wrote: Nov 7th, 2021, 7:31 am Why are the deniers always trying to prop up their stance to the vast majority who follow the science of viruses and vaccines and do the right thing? Do they think we will somehow believe them and go out and get un-jabbed? I'm not sure what their point is unless it's to justify to themselves why they are incapable of doing a bit of solid research. I think it's just the need to belong to a group of like-minded individuals who are afraid of pretty much everything and will latch onto every scrap of conspiracy out there. A group support kind of thing.
But, here's the whole break down with in our society keeping us from actually being prepared for the next killer virus.
Our whole ignorance to it has been controlled for political, financial, and ethical reason's. Far too many people also are at no time in their fight, their stance, based on what we have learnt, but rather to have their own personal health situation ignored. Their ignorance to looking after their own personal health in the first place.
When you use the word majority for your support and include science as your proof, its only your half of reality.
Their are many clinical studies, some previously posted here that in fact, 40% of people make decision s based only on what they are told to do or believe by the media and controllers. 20% more have no interest or involvement except just following the others as to be included in something. So only 40% of people are actually capable of studying, learning and understanding their own beliefs and decisions. Doesn't sound to powerful to me.
So using science to justify your majority doesn't fit.
Also, "as to justify to themselves" is exactly what's going on for many, and not just the side you are using it for. There is one here on this forum that does everything possible to ignore any of her own poor health conditions that she has created for herself. Science is science, and she is very vulnerable. But she is doing everything she can to keep it out of the decision, to have to acknowledge its her very own most contributing factor to getting sick from covid.
Its good people are talking, but their is one factor that is killing us and will kill more of you next time around. You have set aside all aspects and science related to this virus, your health vulnerability, your children's vulnerability, to join a mob that enjoys shaming, blaming and attacking others that are doing nothing more than looking at all options. Nothing more than your shot. But yes, for elderly, weak the vulnerably, then absolutely yes, take tons of shots.
I am a believer that it is actually your shot that will kill you. Obviously not directly, but if all you want to understand, all you want to do, all you will except, its not going to be enough.
So the truth is, a lot of people are not willing to buy into your weak commitment and understanding of this. The shot is not their best protection, nor their little children, its yours.
You really should take this long winded BS to the conspiracy forums.
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Thinktank wrote: Nov 7th, 2021, 8:23 am ...
#4 -428 Canadian died from Swine Flu with 15 million vaccines, and in Poland, with about the same population as Canada, 181 people died from Swine Flu with zero vaccines....
Canada - 25,828 confirmed cases 428 deaths
Poland - 2,024 confirmed cases 181 deaths

Poland didn't seem to fare as well.
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Fancy wrote: Nov 8th, 2021, 7:43 am Canada - 25,828 confirmed cases 428 deaths
Poland - 2,024 confirmed cases 181 deaths

Poland didn't seem to fare as well.
as well as what?
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You're the one that made the comparison.
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it could easily have been one of the hottest news headlines of 2009, not a word could be found about it in the mainstream media.
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THAT'S WHAT WE CAN LEARN FROM THE SWINE FLU SCAMDEMIC

In 2009 Austrian investigative journalist Jane Burgermeister1 filed criminal charges against the World Health Organization, the United Nations, and several of the highest ranking government and corporate officials, including Presidents Barack Obama and George W. Bush, charging them with bioterrorism and attempts to commit genocide.

She also filed charges against Baxter AG and Avir Green Hills Biotechnology of Austria for producing and releasing live bird flu virus, alleging it was a deliberate act to cause and profit from a pandemic.

When a Czech scientist tested their seasonal flu vaccine, he found that they contained live H5N1 and live H3N2 viruses. Burgermeister’s charges include evidence that Baxter deliberately sent out 72 kilos of live bird flu virus, supplied by the WHO in the winter of 2009.

In the 134-page document listing the alleged charges, Burgermeister claims to have decisive proof that drug companies and government agencies are actively engaged in distributing deadly biological agents in order to trigger a pandemic. She also prepared an injunction against forced vaccination, alleging mandatory vaccines will be purposely contaminated with diseases.

The Burgermeister case against the World Health Organization and other government agencies and high ranking officials spread across the internet, but despite the fact that it could easily have been one of the hottest news headlines of 2009, not a word could be found about it in the mainstream media.

https://vervetimes.com/journalist-accus ... ss-murder/
https://projectavalon.net/lang/en/jane_ ... er_en.html
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