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TheLiteralKingofEngland wrote: Nov 9th, 2021, 6:15 pmI’m tired of the overt racism demonstrated by the CPC. It’s just so gross and wrong.
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two_shoes1mit wrote: Nov 9th, 2021, 7:33 pm Can someone please give me a brief explanation or link to the racism exhibited by Mr O'Toole.
There is no more racism exhibited by O'Toole than any of the party leaders. None in fact. *removed*
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hobbyguy wrote: Nov 9th, 2021, 11:58 am

Actually, I don't agree with disparaging O'Toole's "undistinguished" military service. Yup, I called out O'Toole for overplaying it, but the fact is he did serve.

O’Toole: “when Justin Trudeau was partying — and we’ve all seen the photos — I was doing search and rescue missions. … We’ve all known a Justin Trudeau.”

I actually have no problem disparaging o'toole's brief military self-service because as well as overplaying it, he's been a obnoxious peckerhead about it.

His choice to use a champagne unit to snag a free education does not uniquely qualify him to be PM over someone who made the choice to pay his own way.

The failed leader navigated an old Sea King in cottage country, he didn't--as he'd like us to believe--volunteer for three tours of Afghanistan.

He was losing an election, so he decided to make it personal. That's not a man; that's a child.

Everything about o'toole is phony. He's erin the Coward, not Tammy freaking Duckworth.
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TheLiteralKingofEngland wrote: Nov 10th, 2021, 9:11 am Leslyn Lewis is spreading dangerous lies about vaccines. How is she amazing when she’s endangering lives?
I would consider this more loopy than amazing. But I believe loopy is a plus with the Reform/Alliance folks.

It's one of the reasons they keep losing elections.
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How sad that the once proud PC party has become the Manning/Harper party of juvenile trolls.

And they wonder why they've lost three straight elections?


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crookedmember wrote: Nov 10th, 2021, 8:10 am
hobbyguy wrote: Nov 9th, 2021, 11:58 am

Actually, I don't agree with disparaging O'Toole's "undistinguished" military service. Yup, I called out O'Toole for overplaying it, but the fact is he did serve.

O’Toole: “when Justin Trudeau was partying — and we’ve all seen the photos — I was doing search and rescue missions. … We’ve all known a Justin Trudeau.”

I actually have no problem disparaging o'toole's brief military self-service because as well as overplaying it, he's been a obnoxious peckerhead about it.

His choice to use a champagne unit to snag a free education does not uniquely qualify him to be PM over someone who made the choice to pay his own way.

The failed leader navigated an old Sea King in cottage country, he didn't--as he'd like us to believe--volunteer for three tours of Afghanistan.

He was losing an election, so he decided to make it personal. That's not a man; that's a child.

Everything about o'toole is phony. He's erin the Coward, not Tammy freaking Duckworth.
You miss the point. the point is that there many things, not least of which is man made climate change, where we need the CPC to get on board with finding the best ways forward. We won't get there if our politics is about hurling personal insults from the peanut gallery.

No politician is perfect, just as none of us are perfect. We need O'Toole and the CPC to "get real" and quit with the "I wanna win - so I'll bash the other guy". Canadians want our federal parties to work together on crafting the best possible solutions for all of us - and the answers can not be found in insult hurling.

O'Toole is actually trying to shift the CPC. That's a good thing. We need the CPC and the CPC supporters to swing away from the nonsense and start working toward a better future. Won't get there by hurling insults at them.
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The Green Barbarian wrote: Nov 10th, 2021, 9:27 am
crookedmember wrote: Nov 10th, 2021, 9:26 am
It's one of the reasons they keep losing elections.
So what are the reasons that the Liberals keep losing elections? I'm curious?
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https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion ... the-wrong/

"Poilievre’s reappointment as Tory finance critic sends all the wrong messages"

SNIP

"During his three years as finance critic under former leader Andrew Scheer, Mr. Poilievre had established himself as a hardline proponent of hawkish monetary and fiscal policies. Some of the views he expressed on social media were clearly outside the mainstream. He sometimes flirted with conspiracy theories about the Bank and Canada being in cahoots with Justin Trudeau’s Liberals, raising questions about the central bank’s motives.

If Mr. O’Toole hoped that removing Mr. Poilievre from the most prominent position in the Tory shadow cabinet might lead the Carleton MP to tone down his rhetoric, he was dead wrong. Mr. Poilievre continued to use his Twitter feed to trash Bank of Canada Governor Tiff Macklem, upstaging his successor as finance critic, Ed Fast. His interventions in Mr. Fast’s file reeked of grandstanding and often distorted the facts.

On Tuesday, Mr. O’Toole rewarded Mr. Poilievre’s insubordination by reinstating him as Tory finance critic. The move spoke volumes about Mr. O’Toole’s priorities as he seeks to preserve his job. The moderate Mr. O’Toole who surfaced during the federal election campaign has reverted into his pre-campaign guise, pandering to the loudest voices on the right to save his leadership."

O'Toole was darned if did, darned if he didn't.

Skippy P. has made a living spewing nonsense criticisms of everyone and everything - and the diehard tinfoil hat CPC base loves him for it. Not because anything Skippy says is fact based or makes sense, but because he annoys anyone he can that isn't hard right. It is the "sport of trolling" that hard right CPC aficionados love to play from their bar stools.

The problem is that once again O'Toole has wussed out and flip flopped. Nothing O'Toole ever says or does seems to withstand the slightest adversity.

And yup, as a Liberal I'd love to see Skippy running the CPC. Easy peasy win in the next election. But as a Canadian I know that a stronger and more rational CPC would be good for Canada - and Skippy ain't part of that equation. Skippy is part of the CPC faction problem - he even ran his own campaign on a platform much different than O'Toole's - undermining O'Toole's efforts.

O'toole should realize that this isn't going to make things better - only worse. But too late, at least until the next flip flop.
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hobbyguy wrote: Nov 10th, 2021, 8:16 pm https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion ... the-wrong/

"Poilievre’s reappointment as Tory finance critic sends all the wrong messages"
Nope. It sends all the right messages. As we are faced with having adolescent scum running our government right now, having Pierre on board fighting against tyranny and general stupidity we have come to expect from the Liberals is something all Canadians should treasure. Thank you for your service Pierre!!!
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hobbyguy wrote: Nov 10th, 2021, 8:16 pm https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion ... the-wrong/

"Poilievre’s reappointment as Tory finance critic sends all the wrong messages"

SNIP

"During his three years as finance critic under former leader Andrew Scheer, Mr. Poilievre had established himself as a hardline proponent of hawkish monetary and fiscal policies. Some of the views he expressed on social media were clearly outside the mainstream. He sometimes flirted with conspiracy theories about the Bank and Canada being in cahoots with Justin Trudeau’s Liberals, raising questions about the central bank’s motives.
Yup. When right wing conspiracy theorists like Pollievre get appointed it sends the message the CPC embraces far right conspiracies. And that’s absolutely the wrong message unless you’re catering to the extreme right who would probably like such a ridiculous message.
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hobbyguy wrote: Nov 10th, 2021, 8:16 pm https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion ... the-wrong/

"Poilievre’s reappointment as Tory finance critic sends all the wrong messages"



"Alexa, show me a weak, cowardly leader desperately trying to save his own job, rather than his foundering party."

"That was easy."


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crookedmember wrote: Nov 11th, 2021, 8:50 am

"Alexa, show me a weak, cowardly leader desperately trying to save his own job, rather than his foundering party."

"That was easy."
Is there someone standing behind Erin? Because unlike his opponents, he isn't weak, cowardly or desperate, and is doing a fantastic job. Keep up the great work Erin! :up:
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The current divisions around the "Vaccine Caucus" and some of the shadow cabinet appointments continue to muddy the waters for Mr O'Toole and the CPC. Moderate, small "c" conservatives, like myself, have lost faith with Mr O'Toole and the recent election, which was theirs to loose and they did, affirms this fact.

"Voters didn’t trust O’Toole with a winning mandate in the October election, partly because they were confused about his chameleon shifts from hard-right leadership candidate to middle-ground new leader to full-on moderate hopeful campaigning for the prime minister’s job.

He can’t afford to muddy about on the final push to end the pandemic by tolerating anti-vaccination sympathizers and supporters inside a Conservative team that MUST lead the country by MP example."

https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/don-mar ... -1.5658615

It is time for Mr O'Toole to use his homegrown military leadership skills to take a solid position. Constant flip flops are not the way to go! Expel the anti-vaxxers from caucus, define a clear environmental policy, and outline fiscal budget expectations before the new Parliament sits. If you cannot do that, GO ERIN GO and allow someone else with true leadership skill take your place.
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