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Thinktank wrote: Nov 18th, 2021, 2:08 pm Hey look at this: Fateman Sabet a medical health officer with IH says:
“The herd immunity number is calculated based on R naught [R0], which is the regeneration number, or the number of infection from one person who is infected. So that constantly changes. That is why the threshold for having herd immunity for vaccination that keeps changing and now there is no threshold,” Sabet said.
What the hell did she just say? Anyone know?
“We see that specifically at 12 to 17 years of age we have lower vaccination rates, that needs to be improved. And that is partly contributing to higher number of cases in the younger population, specifically at schools.”
She's not being honest. Anyone who would try vaccinate all those young people for covid, when we see the vaccine wears off in a couple of months, but the chemical ingredients in the vaccines probably lodge in the person's brain for the rest of their life - is incompetent.

That's why Fatemah Sabet couldn't explain herd immunity - because there is no herd immunity with the covid vaccines.

https://www.castanet.net/edition/news-s ... htm#352010
The article explains it clearly: too many cases, driven by not enough vaccinations. Improve the vaccination rate, will bring down the case rate.
The vaccine does not "wear off in a couple of months".
In canada: 81.6% of Hospitalized were UNvaccinated, 5.6% were Fully Vaccinated.
77.2% of deaths were UnVaccinated, 8% were Fully Vaccinated.
Clearly the vaccines worked very well, even if not 100%.
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Silverstarqueen wrote: Nov 19th, 2021, 5:20 am
Thinktank wrote: Nov 18th, 2021, 2:08 pm Hey look at this: Fateman Sabet a medical health officer with IH says:



What the hell did she just say? Anyone know?



She's not being honest. Anyone who would try vaccinate all those young people for covid, when we see the vaccine wears off in a couple of months, but the chemical ingredients in the vaccines probably lodge in the person's brain for the rest of their life - is incompetent.

That's why Fatemah Sabet couldn't explain herd immunity - because there is no herd immunity with the covid vaccines.

https://www.castanet.net/edition/news-s ... htm#352010
The vaccine does not "wear off in a couple of months".
While this comment may be technically true, it is misleading. The vaccine "wanes" after 6 months.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/22/health/c ... index.html
https://www.webmd.com/vaccines/covid-19 ... tudy-finds
https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/202 ... -vaccines/
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With a lot of qualifiers to that statement: waned in seniors especially very elderly, due to Delta variant (more transmissible and lethal), and in the u.s. the vaccines were scheduled differently than in Canada (unknown factor). Not so much of a problem in younger.
"For individuals 65 plus, we saw significant declines in VE (vaccine effectiveness) against infection during Delta for the mRNA products," Link-Gelles told the a meeting of CDC vaccine advisers.

Two-dose version of Johnson & Johnson shot 94% effective against Covid-19, study finds
"We also saw declines, particularly for Pfizer, for 65 up, that we're not seeing in younger populations. Finally there's evidence of waning VE against hospitalization in the Delta period," she said.

So we've come a long way from "the vaccine doesn't work", "well it works, but only for a couple of months", "oh, more like in certain people wanes after 6 months", to "Booster restores original efficacy for most people". That means the vaccine works, actually quite well. Not perfectly. No vaccine is 100%. Canada's covid deaths have dropped from 125 per day last jan, to 25 per day (in spite of reopening, more activities, more travel, more contacts). Most of the cases, hospitalization, deaths have been in UNvaccinated.
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I like the comments:
Safe and effective” give us 50 years - to tell you it’s safe
Just adding another reason why NOT to take this toxic injection
Unacceptable and obviously meant to cover up for the guilty
This means there is criminal codudct present so 50 years is to allow the culprits to live out their lives free from consequence
A little over 3 months do decide everyone can take it, 50 years to obfuscate that decision, the criminality in play here is so blatant!
If you have to be persuaded reminded bullied pressured bribed incentivized, lied to, guilt tripped, coerced, socially shamed, censored, threatened, paid, punished and criminalized, to gain your compliance- the thing is no good
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The military knocked out the highways? Mass Death coming? If so why did you bother to stock up on vittles since the end is nigh?
In all my years on Castanet I speak never read such a nutter post
Military knocked out the highways LOL. Did they cause the rain too?
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OKkayak wrote: Nov 18th, 2021, 11:42 pm I prefer to call them by their real names - Larry, Curly and Moe.
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Thinktank wrote: Nov 19th, 2021, 6:55 am
I like the comments:
Safe and effective” give us 50 years - to tell you it’s safe
Just adding another reason why NOT to take this toxic injection
Unacceptable and obviously meant to cover up for the guilty
This means there is criminal codudct present so 50 years is to allow the culprits to live out their lives free from consequence
A little over 3 months do decide everyone can take it, 50 years to obfuscate that decision, the criminality in play here is so blatant!
Vaccine developed in a year from start of virus. 7.6 Billion doses have been rolled out in almost a year, an amazing feat. Every country with good vaccination coverage has had a terrific drop in covid deaths, you know in the populations which the Antivaxxers said should just be allowed to die. Deaths dropped by about 90%, most of the serious cases occurred in UNvaccinated. Israel even largely solved the problem of breakthru cases with a booster dose, amazing boost in immunity especially for the seniors.
So ignore all that, real world data, and start combing 329,000 pages of data looking for what ain't there, evidence that the vaccines don't work, evidence that more people die from the vaccine than covid just ain't there. But that won't stop stupid individuals from spouting their false claims.
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normaM wrote: Nov 19th, 2021, 7:04 am The military knocked out the highways? Mass Death coming? If so why did you bother to stock up on vittles since the end is nigh?
In all my years on Castanet I speak never read such a nutter post
Military knocked out the highways LOL. Did they cause the rain too?
Didn't you hear? Dubai controls the weather so this must be true! [icon_lol2.gif]

And now the military is fixing the highways they apparently broke with their military rain dance?

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interesting fact about the 3 Stooges
HITLER WANTED THEM DEAD.

Having established their comic personas on film, the Stooges proceeded to make some accidental history. Their 1940 short, You Nazty Spy!, was the first American production to openly make a mockery of Adolf Hitler’s regime. (Charlie Chaplin’s The Great Dictator opened nine months later.) The short was perceived as a great insult by the Führer, who listed the Stooges as favored casualties on his own personal death list. (It’s not known whether he named each one individually.)
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Just a reminder that this plandemic was planned in advance for decades. They ran simulations like Event 201 back in 2019 which specifically simulated:

-Governments implementing lockdowns worldwide
-The collapse of many industries
-The global spread of a coronavirus (wow what a coincidence!)
-Growing mistrust between governments and citizens
-Implementation of vaccine passports
-A greater adoption of biometric surveillance technologies
-Social media censorship in the name of combating misinformation
-The desire to flood communication channels with “authoritative” sources
-A global lack of personal protective equipment
-The breakdown of international supply chains
-Mass unemployment
-Rioting in the streets
-And more

“Media companies should commit to ensuring that authoritative messages are prioritized and that false messages are suppressed including though [sic] the use of technology” — Event 201 pandemic simulation (October, 2019)

Sound familiar yet? There is a reason they call it "the new normal". Its because its never going back to normal, it never was. They want you to get used to this new authoritarian system where everything you do is monitored, everwhere you go is tracked. The next step is implementing a digital dollar, which is well underway, and then everything you spend will be tracked too. Canada provinces have already began implementing a CBDC and digital ID's which will be used against you. The next step after that is a total reset of the entire financial system. Every single person who is going along with this plan voluntarily is either a criminal or is so stupid that they shouldn't leave the house without a helmet.

They now have you locked in to the perpetual vaccination schedule, linked to your covid passport and digital ID. With this they can indefinitely restrict and widen your freedoms as they please based on "health reasons", and they can do this perpetually forever because covid will never be gone, and they can introduce a new disease at any time. Welcome to the new normal.
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jcdenton wrote: Nov 19th, 2021, 8:14 am Just a reminder that this plandemic was planned in advance for decades.
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featfan wrote: Nov 18th, 2021, 10:26 am Funny thing, months ago I had never heard of myocarditis.
Now people are arguing what the acceptable number of young deaths from it should be.
Yep, now heart attacks among the youth is a normal thing thanks to the vaccine. In Isreal, one of the most vaccinated countries on earth, incidents of heart attacks have increased by 25% in the past year.
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featfan wrote: Nov 18th, 2021, 10:02 am Ottawa Senators 100 % vaxxed cancels next 3 games due to over 40% of players positive.
lmao not surprising at all. Imagine being so stupid to think you can vaccinate your way out of a coronavirus....its a coronavirus, vaccines do not work for it, they mutate fast. No vaccine in history has ever been successful against any coronavirus, nothing has changed (except the elimination of all your rights). Next they will try to mandate flu vaccines, which also have never eradicated the flu [icon_lol2.gif]
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Silverstarqueen wrote: Nov 19th, 2021, 6:18 am With a lot of qualifiers to that statement: waned in seniors especially very elderly, due to Delta variant (more transmissible and lethal), and in the u.s. the vaccines were scheduled differently than in Canada (unknown factor). Not so much of a problem in younger.
"For individuals 65 plus, we saw significant declines in VE (vaccine effectiveness) against infection during Delta for the mRNA products," Link-Gelles told the a meeting of CDC vaccine advisers.

Two-dose version of Johnson & Johnson shot 94% effective against Covid-19, study finds
"We also saw declines, particularly for Pfizer, for 65 up, that we're not seeing in younger populations. Finally there's evidence of waning VE against hospitalization in the Delta period," she said.

So we've come a long way from "the vaccine doesn't work", "well it works, but only for a couple of months", "oh, more like in certain people wanes after 6 months", to "Booster restores original efficacy for most people". That means the vaccine works, actually quite well. Not perfectly. No vaccine is 100%. Canada's covid deaths have dropped from 125 per day last jan, to 25 per day (in spite of reopening, more activities, more travel, more contacts). Most of the cases, hospitalization, deaths have been in UNvaccinated.
lol excuses excuses. Why don't you just acknowledge the simple fact that we have known for decades before Covid: Vaccines do not work on coronaviruses. No vaccine in history has ever been successful against a coronavirus. Nothing has changed. This isn't about covid, this is about gaining digital authoritarian control over every citizen on the planet. Congrats, you just locked yourself into the perpetual mandatory booster shot. Maybe the first one doesn't kill you, but eventually one will cause you myocarditis or some other severe side effect.

The government has purposely put you into a battle you can never win. And the funny part is they turn around and blame and punish the citizens when they lose this unwinnable battle. Only way to win is to stop playing their game. But you all seem to be enjoying this, so round and round we will go, forever.
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Imagine being so stupid that you think you know more about vaccines and viruses than scientists with decades of experience.
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