All Things Trudeau, Chapter 2

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The Green Barbarian wrote: Dec 4th, 2021, 9:29 am
hobbyguy wrote: Dec 3rd, 2021, 10:58 am

No, your Skippy inspired attack line on CPP is just dumb nonsense and only works with math challenged CPCers.
I don't know who "Skippy" is, but I assume this is yet another childish nickname conjured up by the PMO for Erin O'Toole and then sent out to the minions to parrot. What foolishness. You are right though, the way the Liberals are mismanaged the CPP program, it really is "dumb nonsense". The Liberals don't know what they are doing, and that's why CPP rates are going through the roof. Unqualified idiot children are running our government.

As for the drop in capital investments by companies, that is neither uniquely Canadian nor attributable to government policy except that necessary pandemic restrictions have caused companies to cancel/eliminate capital investments due to pandemic effects .
Once again - apologist nonsense. "Skippy" Trudeau (see I can make up nicknames for leaders of political parties too!) is an unqualified child, who leads a government full of unqualified children. And Canada is suffering mightily for this. The Liberal party is just plain awful.
Of course you know who Skippy Poilievre is. Skippy has been a spinning prevaricator of false narratives for the CPC ever since Harper elevated him within the CPC - and he was a disaster as a cabinet minister. And yup, Skippy P. is pushing a whole bunch of false narrative nonsense about inflation for the CPC right now:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/inflat ... -1.6261611

"The surge in prices is being driven by factors outside of Ottawa's control. But politics is politics."

SNIP

"Frances Donald, the global chief economist for Manulife Investment Management, was asked recently about inflation during an appearance on former Liberal strategist David Herle's podcast. She pointed to a number of factors that have nothing to do with the Trudeau government's fiscal policy: global supply chain disruptions, COVID-19 policies in China, global droughts, pent-up consumer demand.

Informed explanations from the United States also point to an array of international factors, many of which are linked to the pandemic. The New York Times' Paul Krugman has written that this bout of inflation seems more like what happened after the Second World War than the chronic inflation of the 1970s."

SNIP

"In an interview with CBC's Power & Politics on Tuesday, former parliamentary budget officer Kevin Page also pointed to a number of factors driving inflation — but did suggest that government support was boosting consumer demand. He also said that inflation could be short-lived but that it should factor into the government's decisions about future stimulus spending."

SNIP

"According to that plan, Conservatives would have run a slightly larger deficit in the current fiscal year before following a track broadly similar to the Liberal plan. And Page's Institute of Fiscal Studies and Democracy found that the Conservative plan lacked credibility."

So ya, Skippy P., he of the innuendo and smear and porkies, is spinning nonsense again. Surprise, surprise - the CPC spinning nonsense and having NO credible plan.

All that does is confirm the perception that the CPC is "the party of stupid". Canadians don't want stupid political stunts and grandstanding from the official opposition - but that's all they get because the CPC has a psychotic obsession with Trudeau bashing.
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hobbyguy wrote: Dec 4th, 2021, 10:13 am
Of course you know who Skippy Poilievre is.
Of course I don't. Who is "Skippy Poilivere" - what kind of nonsense is this?? We all know that the PMO is staffed by children, but the level of childishness emanating from the Liberal party lately really is off the charts. Unqualified children, unfit to govern.

Back to topic - and old "Skippy" Trudeau:
Chris Selley: Liberals play more insulting pandemic games with our democracy

The COVID-19 pandemic and, perhaps even more so, the governments trying to cope with it have routinely made fools of optimists. Here in Ontario, it took three increasingly large waves of the virus and hundreds of days of lockdown before relatively good news scored a point: The late-summer wave was a fraction of what most experts projected, and while cases have since climbed past that peak, they are climbing slower than during previous waves.

Then along came Omicron. It’s possible this new variant might be a blessing: contagious enough to vanquish Delta, but causing less severe symptoms. I sure wouldn’t bet on it, though.

If there’s one thing Canadians can be pretty confident about, however — and your experience will obviously vary by jurisdiction — it’s that we will continue to have things pretty good, especially in terms of cases but also fatalities, relative to most other Western jurisdictions that also could not realistically seal their borders: the United States and Europe, most notably.

That’s not to diminish the toll COVID-19 has taken. But our relative plight has always been worth keeping in mind as we try to strike the balance between fighting the virus and keeping sane. The differences are astonishing.
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/c ... hp&pc=U531

Old Skippy Trudeau really is in trouble here. Runaway inflation caused by his own party's stupid policies, the CPP falling apart under his watch, and complete pandemic mismanagement. Children indeed.
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https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politic ... tion-case/

"Poilievre runs over facts in his race to make inflation case"

SNIP

On Monday, Conservative MP Rob Morrison said in the House of Commons that Canada was experiencing hyperinflation – a label that fits when inflation is 10 times Canada’s current 4.7-per-cent rate.

SNIP

But it’s still worth noting that in his zeal to make his case on inflation – essentially, that large Liberal deficits caused it – Mr. Poilievre has breezily bent facts past the breaking point, notably by asserting that Canada has run the largest budget deficit in the Group of 20, and that Canada’s inflation rate is far higher than all its peers except the U.S.

SNIP

His claim that his criticism of quantitative easing is not a comment on monetary policy is unfathomable, but let’s call that spin.

SNIP

It’s something else when he claims that Canada ran the highest deficit in the G20 last year. That is not correct.

SNIP

But that’s not so. Canada ran a large deficit, but not the largest in the G20 – as a share of GDP it was smaller than the G20 average, according to the International Monetary Fund.

SNIP

Yet Mr. Poilievre also goes out of his way to insist that Canada’s inflation is running at a pace far beyond other countries, except the U.S. “France, Italy, Germany, Japan, and the U.K. all have much lower inflation rates than Canada. Only the United States, which is printing money like crazy, has a higher inflation rate,” he said last week.

Much lower? At the time, Britain’s reported inflation rate of 4.2 per cent and Germany’s 4.5 per cent were not much lower than Canada’s. (Since then, Germany reported consumer prices rose at an annual rate of 6 per cent.) Inflation in the euro zone was 4.1 per cent. The U.S. and Canada’s other USMCA partner, Mexico, both had inflation over 6 per cent.


Yup, there it is, the rampant prevarication by the CPC due to their psychotic obsession with Trudeau. In the process psychotically attacking Trudeau the CPC assumes Canadians are stupid, but in fact only confirm that the CPC is stupid.

The CPC needs to wake up[ and start proposing things based on reality, not drinking their own fact free bath water. Otherwise they give Trudeau a free pass all the time, because nobody really pays attention to the CPC clown yelling from the corner bar stool.
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5% inflation in Canada, and it's only going to get worse with Trudeau's idiocy of pouring gas on the fire.

Trudeau wears responsibility for this disaster like white on Rice.
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Gone_Fishin wrote: Dec 4th, 2021, 10:32 am 5% inflation in Canada, and it's only going to get worse with Trudeau's idiocy of pouring gas on the fire.

Trudeau wears responsibility for this disaster like white on Rice.
Oh sure, might as well blame the rising US, European and world wide inflation to JT as well. [icon_lol2.gif] I'm sure if the dysfunctional CPC and the equally bumbling o'Toole had gotten elected instead of JT, the praise would be for the CPC in keeping the inflation rate below the US.
In September 2021, the Harmonised Consumer Price Index rose by 6.2 percent in the United States and by 3.6 percent in the EU.
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foenix wrote: Dec 4th, 2021, 10:40 am
Gone_Fishin wrote: Dec 4th, 2021, 10:32 am 5% inflation in Canada, and it's only going to get worse with Trudeau's idiocy of pouring gas on the fire.

Trudeau wears responsibility for this disaster like white on Rice.
Oh sure, might as well blame the rising US, European and world wide inflation to JT as well. [icon_lol2.gif] I'm sure if the dysfunctional CPC and the equally bumbling o'Toole had gotten elected instead of JT, the praise would be for the CPC in keeping the inflation rate below the US.
In September 2021, the Harmonised Consumer Price Index rose by 6.2 percent in the United States and by 3.6 percent in the EU.
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2021/10/ ... ice-index/
"Weforum"? Is that run by the Burger Boys? [icon_lol2.gif]

Instead of taking responsibility, Liberals can only say, "Look! Over there!"

Every economist in Canada is blaming Trudeau's insane money printing for our inflation. Of course, the eco-nuts and potheads who make up the Liberal party are too stupid to think about monetary policy.

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Oh you want more sources for the same news that's only a fingertip away?.....here you go....

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2 ... increases/

https://www.wsj.com/articles/inflation- ... 1629296911

https://tradingeconomics.com/european-u ... ation-rate

You see JT's name as the cause? [icon_lol2.gif] I think someone has the JT hate fever and can't see anything else.
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G-F you constantly make statements that are not factual. The vast majority of economists understand full well what that global inflation has nothing to with Trudeau or Liberal policies.

The only people who believe you are slaves to Skippy P.s misinformation campaign. As I posted,before, Skippy P's nonsense is totally fact free. I guess that's the Trudeau basher candy - fact free.
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And still it continues, the ABUSE of our military veterans by the LIBERAL government.

https://www.castanetkamloops.net/news/C ... mendations

Ombud says veterans struggling needlessly as Ottawa ignores her recommendations

The veterans’ ombud says many ill and injured ex-soldiers and their families are needlessly fighting for access to federal support and services because the government is refusing to act on a growing number of recommendations from her office.

...the unfair treatment of veterans’ family members...

The government has implemented only six of 26 still-relevant recommendations made between April 2017 and March 2021.

Why do Liberal governments love using our veterans as whipping boys?

Since the Trudeau government took over in 2015, Veterans Affairs Canada's budget has risen from $3.6 billion to $5.4 billion for 2020/21.

So tell us why the Ombuds' office is being ignored.

Tell us why veterans and their families continue to needlessly suffer.

For those with short memories, Trudeau has been overseeing this office for well over five years.

Can the Liberal lapdogs that hang out on this forum give a straight up answer?
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bb49 wrote: Dec 5th, 2021, 8:12 pm And still it continues, the ABUSE of our military veterans by the LIBERAL government.

https://www.castanetkamloops.net/news/C ... mendations

Ombud says veterans struggling needlessly as Ottawa ignores her recommendations

The veterans’ ombud says many ill and injured ex-soldiers and their families are needlessly fighting for access to federal support and services because the government is refusing to act on a growing number of recommendations from her office.

...the unfair treatment of veterans’ family members...

The government has implemented only six of 26 still-relevant recommendations made between April 2017 and March 2021.

Why do Liberal governments love using our veterans as whipping boys?

Since the Trudeau government took over in 2015, Veterans Affairs Canada's budget has risen from $3.6 billion to $5.4 billion for 2020/21.

So tell us why the Ombuds' office is being ignored.

Tell us why veterans and their families continue to needlessly suffer.

For those with short memories, Trudeau has been overseeing this office for well over five years.

Can the Liberal lapdogs that hang out on this forum give a straight up answer?
Trudeau simply won’t do anything to benefit our armed forces, or our national police force in a positive way because that would trigger the anti-military anti-police woke numbskulls that Trudeau is bending over for. However if there’s a woke issue such as sexual harassment in the military or police force which adds fuel to the fire for the woke clowns to demand defunding the military or police, Trudeau is all over it like white on rice.
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bb49 wrote: Dec 5th, 2021, 8:12 pm And still it continues, the ABUSE of our military veterans by the LIBERAL government.

https://www.castanetkamloops.net/news/C ... mendations

Ombud says veterans struggling needlessly as Ottawa ignores her recommendations

The veterans’ ombud says many ill and injured ex-soldiers and their families are needlessly fighting for access to federal support and services because the government is refusing to act on a growing number of recommendations from her office.

...the unfair treatment of veterans’ family members...

The government has implemented only six of 26 still-relevant recommendations made between April 2017 and March 2021.

Why do Liberal governments love using our veterans as whipping boys?

Since the Trudeau government took over in 2015, Veterans Affairs Canada's budget has risen from $3.6 billion to $5.4 billion for 2020/21.

So tell us why the Ombuds' office is being ignored.

Tell us why veterans and their families continue to needlessly suffer.

For those with short memories, Trudeau has been overseeing this office for well over five years.

Can the Liberal lapdogs that hang out on this forum give a straight up answer?
From an overall perspective, Veteran's Affairs as an organization got gutted in the budget cut push by the previous government. The problem when an organization gets gutted is that the best people have options and they leave, the mediocre and poor employees, who do not have options, stay. So when a gutted organization needs to rebuild, they don't have much to work with.

The problems at Veteran's Affairs are deeply entrenched. Even with skimpy budgets, they were unable to to spend their budget when veterans were in need of services. https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/1-1b-m ... -1.2841417 When have you ever heard of a government department that under spent?? Fantino was disaster, and that was followed by O'Toole - who veterans advocates say made things even worse.

Starting with such a mess, closed offices, demoralized staff, best people gone. Heck of challenge. Unfortunately you don't see "superstar" cabinet ministers in Veteran's Affairs - and you need to the absolute best to take on a management challenge like that. Obviously the Trudeau liberals have not put the right people in charge, nor kept them there long enough. MacCauley doesn't impress me at all. Hardly a "superstar" - appears to be more of a plodder and smooth politician rather than a doer.

Reality is that Veteran's Affairs needs someone with some serious management ability, and that's a rare commodity in politics writ large. While the Liberals have thrown money at the problems with Veterans Affairs, "more of the same" isn't good enough. I will be very surprised if meaningful change occurs with MacCauley at the helm. Truth be known, there are very few really good managers in parliament as really good managers rarely get into or last in the nonsense of Ottawa. Think David Emerson.
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Quote from San Joaquin Valley Transparency

Presumed authority will eventually turn into unbridled power, if you don't stop it immediatly

Sorta what the lie berals are doing to Canadians..
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hobbyguy wrote: Dec 6th, 2021, 10:21 am
From an overall perspective, Veteran's Affairs as an organization got gutted in the budget cut push by the previous government.
I agree, the Trudeau government of 2015 - 2019 really gutted Veteran's affairs.
Justin Trudeau summed up by Stephen LeDrew:

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