Defund the CBC

Should we stop the taxpayers' bailout of CBC?

Yes, they need to make it on their own
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No, I want more coverage of Trudeau's socks
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The Green Barbarian wrote: Dec 6th, 2021, 4:36 pm
bb49 wrote: Dec 6th, 2021, 4:15 pm There's a story on CBC about the US planning a diplomatic boycott.

My comment: Too many on here showing their love for China and the fact they have forgotten all about the Two Michaels. I wonder if they ever cared?
Boycott the Beijing Olympics.


Anyone care to take as stab at what happened to that comment? :biggrin:
Amazing - the CBC killed your comment??? What??
Of course they did.
When the bots aren't working for the Liberal party, they're assigned to the Communist Broadcasting Corporation.

But hey, let's put a positive spin to this. Its taxpayers money, killing two birds with one bot. [icon_lol2.gif]
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bb49 wrote: Dec 6th, 2021, 7:27 pm
The Green Barbarian wrote: Dec 6th, 2021, 4:36 pm

Amazing - the CBC killed your comment??? What??
Of course they did.
When the bots aren't working for the Liberal party, they're assigned to the Communist Broadcasting Corporation.

But hey, let's put a positive spin to this. Its taxpayers money, killing two birds with one bot. [icon_lol2.gif]
Haha…and they brought down one bb too.
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I guess he figured the notes he got from Katie were all he needed.

CBC journalist broke code by attacking carbon tax story he never read


An Alberta-based CBC journalist broke the CBC's code when he critiqued a story he never read, according to Blacklock's Reporter.

Max Fawcett, who is an energy journalist with the CBC, attacked the hard-working folks at Blacklock's Reporter, calling them "shamelessly dishonest" after they published a story about carbon tax.

Fawcett would also say that "lies and deceit keep spreading," despite never having read the story in the first place. Fawcett said there was "an environment where misinformation thrives and where one side has repeatedly shown its willingness to spread it about the carbon tax."

The story reported on how the federal government was earning more in carbon tax than they redistributed in rebates. This contradicted the prime minister's claims that Canadians "will be better off" with a carbon tax in place.

Fawcett did not read the story but decided to go ahead with his attack on the outlet and the article anyway.

The CBC Ombudsman has since said that "there was a violation of Journalistic Standards And Practices when CBC published the column initially."


https://thepostmillennial.com/cbc-journ ... never-read
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Shouldn't it be the other way around?

CBC viewership hits record lows as subsidies hit record highs



The CBC has turned the record sum of cash they received from the Liberal government into its worst ratings in history, new figures reveal.

Despite getting $1.5-billion of taxpayers’ money, data from the CRTC show the CBC has dropped to less than 3.9 per cent of viewership across Canada in 2018-2019 – a whopping drop of 25 per cent in just one year.

https://westernstandardonline.com/2020/ ... cord-highs
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Gone_Fishin wrote: Dec 14th, 2021, 7:27 am Shouldn't it be the other way around?

CBC viewership hits record lows as subsidies hit record highs



The CBC has turned the record sum of cash they received from the Liberal government into its worst ratings in history, new figures reveal.

Despite getting $1.5-billion of taxpayers’ money, data from the CRTC show the CBC has dropped to less than 3.9 per cent of viewership across Canada in 2018-2019 – a whopping drop of 25 per cent in just one year.

https://westernstandardonline.com/2020/ ... cord-highs
Isn't that good for the CPCers?......Aren't they corrupt and bias towards anyone not named the Liberals?....if so don't you guys want the viewership to be less so that the CBC can't influence anyone? It's a win win for y'all, less propaganda and more whining.... [icon_lol2.gif]
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Gone_Fishin wrote: Dec 14th, 2021, 7:27 am Shouldn't it be the other way around?

CBC viewership hits record lows as subsidies hit record highs



The CBC has turned the record sum of cash they received from the Liberal government into its worst ratings in history, new figures reveal.

Despite getting $1.5-billion of taxpayers’ money, data from the CRTC show the CBC has dropped to less than 3.9 per cent of viewership across Canada in 2018-2019 – a whopping drop of 25 per cent in just one year.

https://westernstandardonline.com/2020/ ... cord-highs
It is a complicated picture. That is a narrow segment, and increasingly narrow segment of the total market. Example: I like the CBC series "The Coroner". I don't watch it on CBC - I watch it on a streaming service without the annoying commercials.

The same applies to Kim's Convenience, Murdoch Mysteries, and even news content (which I sometimes watch on Roku).

The data shown doesn't cover such viewership.

What is going on in the world matters as well. Many, many Canadians were very interested in watching the latest episodes of "The President and the Porn Star" as the US presidential election got under way ( a two year process). That meant that all Canadian broadcasters lost a huge chunk of viewership to CNN, MSNBC and FOX. Say what you want about Trump, the guy is all about showmanship and does grab people's attention when he does his reality shows. ALL of the traditional players like CTV saw a large drop (20%+) in viewership as a result.

The CBC is the only Canadian player that produces its own shows as a mainstay. That common streaming services offer CBC programming without commercials is bound to hurt the traditional broadcasting model - the only reason to watch a show like "The Coroner" on the regular CBC channel is if you can't wait for the next episode. The introduction of more streaming services like Disney has only complicated the picture.

The old models of monitoring the success and market penetration of players in the field are no longer valid.

So how many folks watch shows like "The Coroner" or "The National" on a streaming service? No idea.
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hobbyguy wrote: Dec 14th, 2021, 8:38 am The old models of monitoring the success and market penetration of players in the field are no longer valid.
In other words, if the results show that Justin Trudeau is a complete idiot for dumping our cash into the useless CBC, it's time to change how we measure success so that Justin Trudeau looks like a fricken hero.

Trudeau's responsibility for wasting our money sticks to him like white on Rice, Bill it back to him and see how quickly he changes his tune.
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The CBC is awesome and worth every penny, and more! And while die hard conservatives will froth at the mouth because CBC isn't just another right wing echo chamber, most Canadians value media that isn't run by corporate interests - especially right wing interests that don't reflect Canadian values.
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Gone_Fishin wrote: Dec 14th, 2021, 9:31 am
hobbyguy wrote: Dec 14th, 2021, 8:38 am The old models of monitoring the success and market penetration of players in the field are no longer valid.
In other words, if the results show that Justin Trudeau is a complete idiot for dumping our cash into the useless CBC, it's time to change how we measure success so that Justin Trudeau looks like a fricken hero.

Trudeau's responsibility for wasting our money sticks to him like white on Rice, Bill it back to him and see how quickly he changes his tune.
You didn't read what I wrote. CBC isn't just a broadcaster, they are the primary producer of Canadian content that employs a trainload of people. That is something that is separately important to Canada.

All of the "broadcasters" in Canada are transitioning to streaming. For that to work in the long run you need content. That's why Bell bought CTV in the first place. (And of course, because CTV is now part of BGM, we don't know their profit/loss situation as a standalone.)

Even "Shaw Cable" has shifted to to what is in essence a streaming service.

The entire industry is shifting dramatically as the old models fade to black. CTV is buying US content, not producing much of its own.

GEM, Stack and other Canadian streaming services are just in their infancy in Canada.

There is a strong argument for government support of production of Canadian content if we don't want to get steamrolled by the Yanks. That means support for CBC as they are the primary producers.
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hobbyguy wrote: Dec 14th, 2021, 10:46 am You didn't read what I wrote.
That would be a complete waste of my time.
hobbyguy wrote: Dec 14th, 2021, 10:46 am There is a strong argument for government support of production of Canadian content if we don't want to get steamrolled by the Yanks. That means support for CBC as they are the primary producers.
You support them then, with a subscription service. Canadians shouldn't be on the hook because you want to spend the day watching garbage on TV.
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hobbyguy wrote: Dec 14th, 2021, 10:46 am

There is a strong argument for government support of production of Canadian content if we don't want to get steamrolled by the Yanks. That means support for CBC as they are the primary producers.
I'm all for supporting Canadian content. I'm not for supporting Communist Canadian content. Left-wing garbage that no one wants to see, even the far Lefties. If we all have to support this network, then truly produce content for everyone to enjoy, not just dimwits on the Far Left.
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Gone_Fishin wrote: Dec 14th, 2021, 10:52 am
hobbyguy wrote: Dec 14th, 2021, 10:46 am You didn't read what I wrote.
That would be a complete waste of my time.
hobbyguy wrote: Dec 14th, 2021, 10:46 am There is a strong argument for government support of production of Canadian content if we don't want to get steamrolled by the Yanks. That means support for CBC as they are the primary producers.
You support them then, with a subscription service. Canadians shouldn't be on the hook because you want to spend the day watching garbage on TV.
So what? You spend your day listening to FOX news? Hawaii Five O? The Kardashians?

Fine, you want to be a Yankee Republican - go south.

Canadian culture is worth protecting, it is way better and our lives are richer for it.
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hobbyguy wrote: Dec 14th, 2021, 11:12 am So what? You spend your day listening to FOX news? Hawaii Five O? The Kardashians?

Fine, you want to be a Yankee Republican - go south.

Canadian culture is worth protecting, it is way better and our lives are richer for it.
CBC doesn't run 24/7 fear mongering, which die hard conservatives need as it's how they form their identities. You can bet if CBC ran garbage like Alex Jones all day the same die hard conservatives would watch it day and night. [icon_lol2.gif]
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Gone_Fishin wrote: Dec 14th, 2021, 10:52 am
hobbyguy wrote: Dec 14th, 2021, 10:46 am There is a strong argument for government support of production of Canadian content if we don't want to get steamrolled by the Yanks. That means support for CBC as they are the primary producers.
You support them then, with a subscription service. Canadians shouldn't be on the hook because you want to spend the day watching garbage on TV.
What's left in Canada that's truly Canadian?
How much does it cost us personally?
20 cents per month from our taxes.
CBC has been around since 1936.
Under all government in power.
I don't know why some make it a Liberal issue.
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