Defund the CBC

[hobbyguy]

Canadian culture is worth protecting, it is way better and our lives are richer for it.

Your hero Justin Trudeau says there's no such thing.


https://torontosun.com/2016/09/14/trude ... e-identity

Not my problem if you can't understand the nuance of Trudeau said.

Multiculturalism is a reality, and there is no single defining core culture.

That's the beauty of Canada that the troll right isn't capable of comprehending.

One can listen to CBC radio and get a broad spectrum of stuff. Every time I tune it in, I get different perspectives, different subject matter. Unlike one trick outlets like the Toronto Sun that reflect the twisted far right notions of Rupert and his ilk and publish nonsense.

I know, you don't like it that Canada IS a liberal country, and the CBC reflects that, but Canada is, at its core, a tolerant western liberal democracy. That's why only the far right simplistic "thinkers" don't like the CBC, it is very popular with Canadians writ large.

[The Green Barbarian]

One can listen to CBC radio and get a broad spectrum of stuff.

This is 100% solid gold horse .

Every time I tune it in, I get different perspectives, different subject matter.

Different perspectives? Yes, you get the Left, and the Far Left, that's it. It's just pure garbage.

Unlike one trick outlets like the Toronto Sun

Why are you bringing in the awesome Toronto Sun into this discussion? They don't receive billions of dollars of taxpayer money, and they don't churn out reams of far Left garbage either. Totally dumb to even talk about them.

I know, you don't like it that Canada IS a liberal country,

But not a communist country. Yet.

and the CBC reflects that,

No, the CBC only reflects one thing - selling an extremely intolerant far Left view, to total mush-heads.

but Canada is, at its core, a tolerant western liberal democracy.

Yes, thankfully, and not a communist country, as much as the horrible idiots running the CBC would like to see us become one.

That's why only the far right simplistic "thinkers" don't like the CBC, it is very popular with Canadians writ large.

And yet it's only the far Left simplistic non-thinking boneheads who think that the CBC is worth subsidizing and listening to, because the CBC feeds their moronic echo chambers. The CBC just plain sucks.

[Gone_Fishin]

Yeah, right. CBC doesn’t fearmonger. In a pig’s eye.

You are right Cats, the CBC definitely sucks, a lot. But they are no different than every other government-subsidized media everywhere. The BBC, the ABC in Australia, NPR in the US - all run by the idiot Left, pumping out Leftist garbage by the bucket load. Why is that? Is it because these government-subsidized media outlets only attract the worst and the dimmest? Why are these media sources controlled by such utter and complete fools?

It's interesting that the subsidized media is all left wing.

Further proof that the left wing can't run a business without massive subsidization.

Likewise, we see that same failure with left wing run countries, subsidized by massive debt ($357 billion a year, anyone?).

[foenix]

So what? You spend your day listening to FOX news? Hawaii Five O? The Kardashians?

Fine, you want to be a Yankee Republican - go south.

Canadian culture is worth protecting, it is way better and our lives are richer for it.

CBC doesn't run 24/7 fear mongering, which die hard conservatives need as it's how they form their identities. You can bet if CBC ran garbage like Alex Jones all day the same die hard conservatives would watch it day and night.

Just like flies to poo.

[seewood]

Have you tried to listen to CBC radio in the last 24 months??? All they do is yelp FEAR of covid, FEAR of unvaxxed, then on to mandated vaccinations, then back to next new variant of covid. Honestly, there is no end to it. No wonder there are peeps living in total fear of their neighbours, friends and general public.

Then mix into the above, praise for liberal malfeasance and denigration to any opposition.

Yeah, right. CBC doesn’t fearmonger. In a pig’s eye.

Pretty well sums it up perfectly. I try and watch/listen to CBC and it isn't long ( perhaps a minute or two) before I change the channel. Tripe for the most part.
This morning I have a sports channel on as this Omicron seems to have the news cycle's attention for now. Nope, just went to Stingray music streaming.

[Pappywinkle]

Have you tried to listen to CBC radio in the last 24 months??? All they do is yelp FEAR of covid, FEAR of unvaxxed, then on to mandated vaccinations, then back to next new variant of covid. Honestly, there is no end to it. No wonder there are peeps living in total fear of their neighbours, friends and general public.

Yup, and they don't just 'yelp fear of bla bla bla'. But I understand that many non-CBC listeners prefer news that shocks them and preys on their emotions, and they may have trouble grasping the concept that not every outlet does that. And yes, CBC talks about covid and vaccinations, during a global pandemic, which are things that non-CBC listeners want to believe don't exist.

So it's understandable that talking about things like science would cause paranoid right wingers to change the channel because they so desperately want to stay in their safe spaces where science doesn't exist and they're given a warm blanket to coddle their irrational fear of doctors and scientists.

[The Green Barbarian]

Pretty well sums it up perfectly. I try and watch/listen to CBC and it isn't long ( perhaps a minute or two) before I change the channel. Tripe for the most part.
This morning I have a sports channel on as this Omicron seems to have the news cycle's attention for now. Nope, just went to Stingray music streaming.

Yup - exactly, totally agree. I can't listen to the evil Leftist garbage pumped out by the CBC for too long before I start trying to bend my steering wheel in anger at the horrible filth they are babbling on about. The CBC just plain sucks.

[The Green Barbarian]

I have listened the past 24 months and I'm not hearing fearmongering, I'm hearing facts stated.

You're not hearing "facts stated", you're hearing the leftist dribble that you want to hear, and that you believe are "facts". Huge difference.

'Praise for liberal malfeasance' is off-the-wall absurd exaggeration.

And yet it's still not as bad as saying that you are hearing "facts stated" on the CBC. Not even in the same galaxy.

It sounds like the people who think the CBC is fearmongering are so far right-wing that they're practically falling off the right side of the flat Earth they believe in.

And it sounds like the people who think that the CBC is "stating facts" are so far left-wing that they are being sucked up into the sky by the evil man-made climate change bogeyman they believe in.

[Pappywinkle]

I have listened the past 24 months and I'm not hearing fearmongering, I'm hearing facts stated.

'Praise for liberal malfeasance' is off-the-wall absurd exaggeration. It sounds like the people who think the CBC is fearmongering are so far right-wing that they're practically falling off the right side of the flat Earth they believe in.

The only people scared of the CBC are those who desperately cling to science-denying right wing safe spaces.

[Mark5]

Although the CBC has always been left leaning, I don’t believe historically that the CBC was politically partisan, just left. These days the CBC is very blatantly the politically partisan and biased propaganda wing of the Trudeau Liberals. There’s no question about it, Trudeau can do no wrong in the eyes of the CBC.
The CBC definitely had its place in Canadian history, for a very long time CBC radio and TV was the only option for much of rural Canada. However, now that those living in the most remote parts of Canada have access to satellite TV, radio and internet, the CBC needs to get off the government teat..

I used to listen to CBC radio in the 1970`s all the time. I really enjoyed Morning side with Peter Gzowski. I can`t recall now if the CBC was so political and partisan. Before satellite and the Internet, it was the only station in many small towns across northern Ontario. There were those little signs on the highway letting you know what frequency to tune into as you traveled. But over the last few decades I noticed that the CBC was changing. Many of the so called journalists started doing a lot of foreign stories and then started promoting people like David Suzuki. The last straw was when I caught Suzuki lying on his propaganda show"The Nature of things". I was pretty upset and offended by his lies and exaggerations. The CBC was created to bring Canadians together. To find common ground. But now that ideal has been abandoned. It is has become a radical leftist political partisan network that I can no longer endure. It is very sad that the CBC has just been voted the number one listened to station in Kelowna radio. To think listeners are being brainwashed by their content is quite disturbing.

[The Green Barbarian]

99.9999% of people believe in the science that climate change and covid are both genuine problems that need to be mitigated.

I was responding to your comment that somehow right-wing people are going to fall off a flat earth. If you want to make silly comments like that I'm going to respond in kind about the man-made climate change myth you hold so dear.

[The Green Barbarian]

. The last straw was when I caught Suzuki lying on his propaganda show"The Nature of things". I was pretty upset and offended by his lies and exaggerations.

Care to share what the lie was about? I have lost count by now.

The CBC was created to bring Canadians together. To find common ground. But now that ideal has been abandoned. It is has become a radical leftist political partisan network that I can no longer endure. It is very sad that the CBC has just been voted the number one listened to station in Kelowna radio. To think listeners are being brainwashed by their content is quite disturbing.

Well said.

[Gone_Fishin]

Trudeau's planting of beholden "journalists" via the “Local Journalism Initiative” funding is exposed.

This is worth a read. People likely know nothing about this.

Couple this with Trudeau's internet censorship bill, and it's a double whammy against independent journalism and freedom of expression.

The Growing Number of Canadian Journalists Who Are Funded by the Feds


The digital era upended industries and ideas, including the belief that there’s no such thing as a free lunch. Information was suddenly instant, infinite and without cost. Or seemingly so. As legacy news media declined or foundered altogether, the replacements struggled to create viable business models. Perhaps it was only a matter of time until agenda-driven organizations and governments stepped in to “lend a helping hand.” But what happens to “independence” when media are financially dependent on large organizations and journalists become wards of the state? Lifelong newspaperman, publisher and communications expert Peter Menzies explores the issue.

https://c2cjournal.ca/2021/12/the-growi ... -the-feds/

To me, that changes everything. If that’s a story paid for with my (and your) hard-earned tax dollars, and it’s being fed at government expense across the country into the Toronto Star and heaven knows how many other outlets, whether it’s journalism or activism is now my business, your business and probably Coastal GasLink’s business too. So I sent the aforementioned story around to a number of veteran newspaper people, collectively representing nearly 400 years spent working in the field, to get their professional assessment. They have a variety of worldviews and I am withholding their identities in case they ever want to apply for government funding. (I also reached out three times to the CAJ’s president, Brent Jolly, but failed to elicit a response.)

How, I asked them, would you assess this piece? Is it journalism? Here are their responses:

“No journalist has ever used the term ‘land defender’,” said one, “But I have been ranting for days about journalism which frankly deserves to die.”

“Seems a tad lacking in objectivity – loaded with loaded language,” said another.

“Reads like advocacy to me,” concluded a third. “Objectivity seems to be very much out of fashion.”

Another offered a more detailed judgment: “It is only journalism in the broadest sense of the word – the gathering of information for publication. Is it biased? Does it classify as advocacy journalism? Does it use heavily-loaded language in the headline? Does the writer even bother to challenge the chief? Can the reader even trust the author who is described as living on land wrongly taken? Answers: Yes. Yes. Yes. No. No.”

Still another saw the story’s flaws as an opportunity for constructive mentoring: “I would edit it as I saw fit before publication. Then I would speak to the reporter, hoping we can move forward.” And if those hopes were dashed, then perhaps this editor would encourage the journalist to consider another field of work.

“Skating pretty close to activism, no?” was another’s pithy observation.

Not everyone agreed, with one writing: “I’m no expert on this topic but this seems a relatively balanced account of the situation with all involved parties, with the notable exception of the elected band council members, represented in the piece.”

That was an outlying view among my correspondents, however. The reporter is lucky he didn’t have the following respondent for a boss: “Not only would I not run it, I’d tell the writer to seek employment elsewhere. It’s more a political statement than journalism.”

[The Green Barbarian]

It's not a myth and I'm very thankful the CBC is so science-based

The CBC is the "flat earthers" of Canadian media, that the Left loves so much they may fall off the edge.

[Babba_not_Gump]

Trudeau's planting of beholden "journalists" via the “Local Journalism Initiative” funding is exposed.

This is worth a read. People likely know nothing about this.

Couple this with Trudeau's internet censorship bill, and it's a double whammy against independent journalism and freedom of expression.

The Growing Number of Canadian Journalists Who Are Funded by the Feds


The digital era upended industries and ideas, including the belief that there’s no such thing as a free lunch. Information was suddenly instant, infinite and without cost. Or seemingly so. As legacy news media declined or foundered altogether, the replacements struggled to create viable business models. Perhaps it was only a matter of time until agenda-driven organizations and governments stepped in to “lend a helping hand.” But what happens to “independence” when media are financially dependent on large organizations and journalists become wards of the state? Lifelong newspaperman, publisher and communications expert Peter Menzies explores the issue.

https://c2cjournal.ca/2021/12/the-growi ... -the-feds/

To me, that changes everything. If that’s a story paid for with my (and your) hard-earned tax dollars, and it’s being fed at government expense across the country into the Toronto Star and heaven knows how many other outlets, whether it’s journalism or activism is now my business, your business and probably Coastal GasLink’s business too. So I sent the aforementioned story around to a number of veteran newspaper people, collectively representing nearly 400 years spent working in the field, to get their professional assessment. They have a variety of worldviews and I am withholding their identities in case they ever want to apply for government funding. (I also reached out three times to the CAJ’s president, Brent Jolly, but failed to elicit a response.)

How, I asked them, would you assess this piece? Is it journalism? Here are their responses:

“No journalist has ever used the term ‘land defender’,” said one, “But I have been ranting for days about journalism which frankly deserves to die.”

“Seems a tad lacking in objectivity – loaded with loaded language,” said another.

“Reads like advocacy to me,” concluded a third. “Objectivity seems to be very much out of fashion.”

Another offered a more detailed judgment: “It is only journalism in the broadest sense of the word – the gathering of information for publication. Is it biased? Does it classify as advocacy journalism? Does it use heavily-loaded language in the headline? Does the writer even bother to challenge the chief? Can the reader even trust the author who is described as living on land wrongly taken? Answers: Yes. Yes. Yes. No. No.”

Still another saw the story’s flaws as an opportunity for constructive mentoring: “I would edit it as I saw fit before publication. Then I would speak to the reporter, hoping we can move forward.” And if those hopes were dashed, then perhaps this editor would encourage the journalist to consider another field of work.

“Skating pretty close to activism, no?” was another’s pithy observation.

Not everyone agreed, with one writing: “I’m no expert on this topic but this seems a relatively balanced account of the situation with all involved parties, with the notable exception of the elected band council members, represented in the piece.”

That was an outlying view among my correspondents, however. The reporter is lucky he didn’t have the following respondent for a boss: “Not only would I not run it, I’d tell the writer to seek employment elsewhere. It’s more a political statement than journalism.”

That's why the Communist Broadcasting Corporation is also referred to as Canada's Pravda.