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Should we stop the taxpayers' bailout of CBC?

Yes, they need to make it on their own
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The Green Barbarian wrote: Dec 15th, 2021, 4:41 pm
Mark5 wrote: Dec 15th, 2021, 4:04 pm . The last straw was when I caught Suzuki lying on his propaganda show"The Nature of things". I was pretty upset and offended by his lies and exaggerations.
Care to share what the lie was about? I have lost count by now.
The CBC was created to bring Canadians together. To find common ground. But now that ideal has been abandoned. It is has become a radical leftist political partisan network that I can no longer endure. It is very sad that the CBC has just been voted the number one listened to station in Kelowna radio. To think listeners are being brainwashed by their content is quite disturbing.
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Well said.
I cannot recall what this lie was. It was decades ago. He has been lying ever since. Has the CBC ever covered Dr. Jordan Peterson in a positive way? I cannot recall. I somehow doubt it. Peterson is a great Canadian. He should receive the Order of Canada but that is essentially a Liberal reward program where they all pat themselves on the back.
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revenue problem continues
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Publishing date:Dec 18, 2021 • 1 day ago • 3 minute read • 10 Comments
A parking lot barrier is seen at one of the studios in Halifax on Wednesday April 4, 2012. The Canadian Broadcasting corporation is axing 650 jobs in the wake of federal budget cuts. THE CANADIAN PRESS/Andrew Vaughan
A parking lot barrier is seen at one of the studios in Halifax on Wednesday April 4, 2012. The Canadian Broadcasting corporation is axing 650 jobs in the wake of federal budget cuts. THE CANADIAN PRESS/Andrew Vaughan
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Advertising revenues at the CBC fell again last year. According to Mother Corp’s annual report, recently tabled in Parliament, ad sales were down from $220 million in 2019 to just under $199 million in 2020, a drop of about 10% in one year.

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On top of that, CBC’s share of prime-time viewers fell by 2%, despite the fact locked-down Canadians watched more TV than ever before during the pandemic. At any given time during prime viewing hours (8 to 11 p.m.), just 5% of Canadians are watching our state broadcaster.

(By the way, the CBC hates it when I call them the state broadcaster. They insist they are a public broadcaster, not an arm of the government. But when you serve the interests of the government more than that of the public … well, you decide.)

Perhaps worse still (for CBC executives), the Ceeb’s share of 18- to 49-year-old viewers declines each year as the network’s average audience ages. Eighteen to 49-year-olds are the most coveted by advertisers because of their purchasing power and spending habits, and the CBC is largely irrelevant to them.

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Since 2014, the CBC’s income from TV ads has collapsed from $426 million to $199 million, a decline of 53% in just seven years.

Why?

The CBC blames the loss of NHL broadcasting rights to Rogers’ Sportsnet in 2014. Without the bright, shiny object of hockey coverage to entice sponsors, selling ads on the CBC’s “woke” comedies, mediocre dramas and sports only the players’ parents care about have become, um, difficult.

Former CBC executive vice-president, Richard Stursberg, is quoted by Blacklock’s Reporter explaining how Mother Corp used to hold out the carrot of advertising space during NHL broadcasts as a way to sell ads on its other, unappealing programming.

“If you would like to have hockey,” Strusberg claims the CBC would say to sponsors, “then you have to buy this dog over here that nobody wants.”

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Now, without hockey for the most part, the CBC is left with a kennel of mangy pooches. But I have another explanation for why the CBC can’t sell ads: No one’s watching, no one cares.

And maybe some people (like me) have also grown tired of having to pay monthly fees for streaming services that provide content we want to watch while at the same time subsidizing the CBC, which has basically become a streaming service with niche programming and biased news coverage for elite “progressives.”

Why should I have to pay for Netflix and AppleTV, DAZN for soccer and football, Amazon Prime, Disney+, Crave and others, then also chip in for CBC viewers’ favourite programming?

I also despise the coercion involved. If I don’t pay the monthly fees for my streaming service, I get cut off. However, if don’t pay my taxes to fund the CBC, I could end up being audited, fined or jailed.

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I can cancel at any time any subscription services that stop producing content that appeals to me. Yet the CBC hasn’t produced anything that appealed to me in decades and there is not a damned thing I can do about it.

I don’t watch CBC TV or listen to CBC Radio because I strenuously object not just to what is on those services, but also to the mandatory way Canadians are forced to pay.

(It is just as objectionable to make taxpayers subsidize newspaper and magazine publishers, although the scale of subsidy to mainstream media is nowhere near as large.)

So here’s a thought: Let’s stop keeping the CBC afloat with our tax dollars. At present, the Trudeau Liberals give the CBC a subsidy of $1.3 billion a year.

Too often that money goes to news coverage that helps keep the Liberals in office.
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Yabba Dabba BOO wrote: Dec 15th, 2021, 8:15 pm It's not a myth and I'm very thankful the CBC is so science-based and attempts to educate Canadians. It appears the education attempt has failed with a select few, but they weren't going to listen to anything they deemed "leftist" anyway.
It's a sad time for Canada when the CBC reporting facts and science is viewed as 'leftist propaganda'. At the rate that right wingers are sinking further into stupidity we may start seeing them argue that 2+2=4 is 'leftist' and 'against freedoms'.
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blueliner wrote: Dec 20th, 2021, 10:14 am

Too often that money goes to news coverage that helps keep the Liberals in office.
Yes, and therein lies the rub. There was a time, long ago I'm told, that the CBC concerned itself with reporting facts, and also concerned themselves with actual science. All of that got thrown out the window when the top brass, who is beholden to the government, decided to become a propaganda organ for the Left. Now it's just a complete trash organization.
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The Green Barbarian wrote: Dec 20th, 2021, 12:57 pm
blueliner wrote: Dec 20th, 2021, 10:14 am

Too often that money goes to news coverage that helps keep the Liberals in office.
Yes, and therein lies the rub. There was a time, long ago I'm told, that the CBC concerned itself with reporting facts, and also concerned themselves with actual science. All of that got thrown out the window when the top brass, who is beholden to the government, decided to become a propaganda organ for the Left. Now it's just a complete trash organization.
Bingo we have a winner , but the Liberals will call that total garage . :130:
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Pappywinkle wrote: Dec 20th, 2021, 10:15 am
Yabba Dabba BOO wrote: Dec 15th, 2021, 8:15 pm It's not a myth and I'm very thankful the CBC is so science-based and attempts to educate Canadians. It appears the education attempt has failed with a select few, but they weren't going to listen to anything they deemed "leftist" anyway.
It's a sad time for Canada when the CBC reporting facts and science is viewed as 'leftist propaganda'. At the rate that right wingers are sinking further into stupidity we may start seeing them argue that 2+2=4 is 'leftist' and 'against freedoms'.
Hey pappy, go back and read the post directly above yours.
How about your thoughts on CBCs shrinking revenue base, which we all know will be made up by us taxpayers.

It isn't about leftist propaganda, or right wing stupidity anymore.
It's now about CBC budgeting not knowing that $4 - $2=$2.
They still think $4 - $2=$5. Hey, the budget balanced itself again! :130:
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Until there is something better - I don't trust conservatives enough to not fill the void with their own brand of hate with donors with deep pockets. Like fox and other channels that popped up in the US. I think it's better to stick with the devil we know and I prefer. Otherwise, our country and alleged democracy will become as big a laughing stock as the Americans have.
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nucksRnum1 wrote: Dec 20th, 2021, 4:40 pm Until there is something better - I don't trust conservatives enough to not fill the void with their own brand of hate with donors with deep pockets.
So we're supposed to trust liberals with their own brand of hate spreading their message with government money?
Like fox and other channels that popped up in the US.
Like CNN and MSNBC?
I think it's better to stick with the devil we know and I prefer.
The devil we know and no one with a brain prefers, you mean.
Otherwise, our country and alleged democracy will become as big a laughing stock as the Americans have.
We are well past laughing stock and our democracy is barely functioning, thanks to the idiot we have in charge right now.
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I thought maybe I was being too hard on CBC radio in my previous comments, so whilst driving tried again. [ I used to be glued to it almost 24/7]

Sure enough, Kovid Krap, and next up ….all you never needed to know about Klimate Khrisis.

Does anyone praising this miserable radio station actually listen to it?

I stand by my aforementioned assessment.
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Chris Walker, Day Break good start to the day.
Tom Power, excellent interviewer.
Bob McDaondald, quirks and quarks. Need I say more?
Stuart McLean, Vinyl Cafe. Missed terribly.
Rosanna Deerchild, Unreserved. First hand stories from indigenous peoples should be important to all of us.
That’s just a few reasons to listen to the CBC.

And though not on CBC anymore, Rick Mercer is a national treasure.
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Amendment

Chris Walker, ok
Writers & Co, Eleanor Wachtel….excellent

Q&Q…gave it up a year ago as it’s all Kovid and Klimate now

Anyway, pretty costly imo for a couple of good shows
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nucksRnum1 wrote: Dec 20th, 2021, 4:40 pm Until there is something better - I don't trust conservatives enough to not fill the void with their own brand of hate with donors with deep pockets. Like fox and other channels that popped up in the US. I think it's better to stick with the devil we know and I prefer. Otherwise, our country and alleged democracy will become as big a laughing stock as the Americans have.
Should we be so lucky as to have the CBC turn into a void, it will not be filled with a government site.
Be it left or be it right or even neutral, it will be filled by whomever can make a buck, without sucking taxpayers dry.

Why you say it will be filled with hate is beyond me.
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bb49 wrote: Dec 20th, 2021, 6:58 pm
nucksRnum1 wrote: Dec 20th, 2021, 4:40 pm Until there is something better - I don't trust conservatives enough to not fill the void with their own brand of hate with donors with deep pockets. Like fox and other channels that popped up in the US. I think it's better to stick with the devil we know and I prefer. Otherwise, our country and alleged democracy will become as big a laughing stock as the Americans have.
Should we be so lucky as to have the CBC turn into a void, it will not be filled with a government site.
Be it left or be it right or even neutral, it will be filled by whomever can make a buck, without sucking taxpayers dry.

Why you say it will be filled with hate is beyond me.
That is the way the KH sees the world.
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Thumbs down CBC Floundering... Yet Again
Trudeau tells heritage minister to burn more taxpayer money on failing CBC

In his mandate letter to newly-appointed Minister of Canadian Heritage Pablo Rodriguez, Trudeau tasked the cabinet member with providing “additional funding” to the public broadcaster which is already subsidized by Canadians to the tune of $1.2 billion.

According to public financial disclosures, taxpayer funding makes up the vast majority of CBC’s revenue, accounting for nearly 71.2%.

The CBC has long struggled to find revenue sources outside of government. Both viewers and advertising dollars are tuning out, and the broadcaster consistently reports financial losses.

https://tnc.news/2021/12/17/trudeau-...n-failing-cbc/

And some still wonder as to why the CBC is little more than a paid for mouthpiece for the Trudeau Government.
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blueliner wrote: Dec 21st, 2021, 11:08 am Thumbs down CBC Floundering... Yet Again
Trudeau tells heritage minister to burn more taxpayer money on failing CBC

In his mandate letter to newly-appointed Minister of Canadian Heritage Pablo Rodriguez, Trudeau tasked the cabinet member with providing “additional funding” to the public broadcaster which is already subsidized by Canadians to the tune of $1.2 billion.

According to public financial disclosures, taxpayer funding makes up the vast majority of CBC’s revenue, accounting for nearly 71.2%.

The CBC has long struggled to find revenue sources outside of government. Both viewers and advertising dollars are tuning out, and the broadcaster consistently reports financial losses.

https://tnc.news/2021/12/17/trudeau-...n-failing-cbc/

And some still wonder as to why the CBC is little more than a paid for mouthpiece for the Trudeau Government.
This whole CBC funding issue is a laugh a minute. In one breath they are telling you that the CBC is “struggling” to find financing, and in the next, JT is tasking cabinet to find “additional financing”

The CBC is a very expensive balloon to let children play with. I suggest that a prick from fiscal reality will deflate this albatross pdq.
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